Wizard's Wonderful World of Warketing

The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           
The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           



LEGO and D&D?  Hasbro doesn't own LEGO, plus I figure they're been business rivals.  I mean, I would LOVE that, but I don't think it'll happen.

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Oh, God, not Uni! For the love of Pete's Dragon!
I personally like/have liked the comic lines. I know comic audience is small, but I would like to see this continued.
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About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.
The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           



LEGO and D&D?  Hasbro doesn't own LEGO, plus I figure they're been business rivals.  I mean, I would LOVE that, but I don't think it'll happen.



Heh Lego is one of the few remaining well known brands NOT owned by aconglomerate...its also VERY well known to endorse pretty much anything in lego form...if lego refuses Megablocks is just as popular nowadays.

Now imagine getting a Lego DnD Game...say like a tactics grid based rpg similar to fire emblem or final fantasy tactics with different equipment looking visually different...would use use 5e ruleset but very simplified. Get Perkins to voice the DM who of  course is also a legoman him self...Imagine when you select a character to move a giant lego hand of the player for that can reaches in and moves him...and the dm moves any monsters...than during story time the camrea pans up and back so the players (I vote for Acquisiton Inc. to be the players) and the DM can be seen around the table and a little animation is shown up above them to show what their describing...of course the classic Lego games humour woould be present.

This would be huge publicity..lego games tend to realease on well everything pc, consoles, Ios, handhelds, etc. and are for the most part decent quality and it could also serve to soften the blow of the staggering amount of things you need to learn this DnD since this is super simplified than whoever the DM can fill in the blanks if they decide to try PnP...also a good idea would be that if they sign up at these forums they get a "secret" class and some extra starting gold in the game

So in short: Marketing ideas

1. DnD Lego
2. Chris Perkins and/or Aquisitions Inc. Guest spot on "Big Bang Theory"
3. DnD Lego Game
4. New DnD Show...possibly even mentioned during guest spot on BBT
5. Add encounters to places other than gaming stores

All awesome ideas...as for the comic though while I would love that it would do little to nothing for marketing since..well their comics...if you know comics your likely at least have a general idea of DnD so only a small amount of people would be swayed this way...good idea in gerneral..bad marketing idea
About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.



I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.
About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.



I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.


I agree.  I would actually think Hasbro would greenlight it as more material for HUB, with associated marketing.  Sort of Hasbro's answer to Legend of Korra.
About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.



Great idea!
D&D Legos is a brilliant idea.  Add to that the fact that Lego minifigs make excellent, highly customizeable tabletop minis (given a base to make them stand more stable), and you've got some serious money-making potential.  I would bet gp to sand that Lego D&D minis and Lego "dungeon tiles" would sell.

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.


I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.

 
I agree.  I would actually think Hasbro would greenlight it as more material for HUB, with associated marketing.  Sort of Hasbro's answer to Legend of Korra.

Putting it that way, it sounds like a pretty cool idea.

"I want 'punch magic in the face' to be a maneuver." -- wrecan

D&D Legos is a brilliant idea.  Add to that the fact that Lego minifigs make excellent, highly customizeable tabletop minis (given a base to make them stand more stable), and you've got some serious money-making potential.  I would bet gp to sand that Lego D&D minis and Lego "dungeon tiles" would sell.

About ten months ago, I proposed a sequel cartoon to the old D&D cartoon.  i still think it could work.


I'd be willing to bet that the cost of producing a cartoon would exceed the cost of producing a new edition of the game.

 
I agree.  I would actually think Hasbro would greenlight it as more material for HUB, with associated marketing.  Sort of Hasbro's answer to Legend of Korra.

Putting it that way, it sounds like a pretty cool idea.



You beat me to it (refering to legos at least)  Due to budget constraints and an ENDLESS supply of castle/what have you LEGO old and new, I tend to use legos for my games if a visual is needed.  Though, some of players can't handle the awesome.  As for my cynicism, I still wonder if rivals like Hasbro and Lego will ever team up.  I still have doubts.

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Some good pointers for the fellow hobbyist!:

  • KEEP D&D ALIVE, END EDITION WARS!
  • RESPECT PEOPLES' PREFERENCES
  • JUST ENJOY THE GAME!
As for my cynicism, I still wonder if rivals like Hasbro and Lego will ever team up.  I still have doubts.

Where there's a will money to be made, there's a way.  Anything is possible with the power of imagination! commercialism.

"I want 'punch magic in the face' to be a maneuver." -- wrecan

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.
Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.

So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.

guides
List of no-action attacks.
Dynamic vs Static Bonuses
Phalanx tactics and builds
Crivens! A Pictsies Guide Good
Power
s to intentionally miss with
Mr. Cellophane: How to be unnoticed
Way's to fire around corners
Crits: what their really worth
Retroactive bonus vs Static bonus.
Runepriest handbook & discussion thread
Holy Symbols to hang around your neck
Ways to Gain or Downgrade Actions
List of bonuses to saving throws
The Ghost with the Most (revenant handbook)
my builds
F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter. With some warlord stuff. Broken in a plot way, not a power way.

Thought Switch Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1. If your allies play along, it's broken.

Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation. 5 of these will end anything. Broken.

King Fisher Optimized net user.  Moderate.

Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.

Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit. Overpowered.

Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.

Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.

Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.

Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.

Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.

Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.

Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.  One of THE most abusive character in 4e.

Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.

Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.

Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.

Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.

Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.

The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.

Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power.

Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken.

Rune of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.

Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.

Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.

Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight with items, making it far more broken.

Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.

Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones. Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.

So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.



As a LEGO purist, I must protest ;)

Crazed undead horror posing as a noble and heroic forum poster!

 

 

Some good pointers for the fellow hobbyist!:

  • KEEP D&D ALIVE, END EDITION WARS!
  • RESPECT PEOPLES' PREFERENCES
  • JUST ENJOY THE GAME!
Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.

So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.

As a LEGO purist, I must protest ;)

The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).

Edit: Apparently they do.  So we're all good.   

guides
List of no-action attacks.
Dynamic vs Static Bonuses
Phalanx tactics and builds
Crivens! A Pictsies Guide Good
Power
s to intentionally miss with
Mr. Cellophane: How to be unnoticed
Way's to fire around corners
Crits: what their really worth
Retroactive bonus vs Static bonus.
Runepriest handbook & discussion thread
Holy Symbols to hang around your neck
Ways to Gain or Downgrade Actions
List of bonuses to saving throws
The Ghost with the Most (revenant handbook)
my builds
F-111 Interdictor Long (200+ squares) distance ally teleporter. With some warlord stuff. Broken in a plot way, not a power way.

Thought Switch Higher level build that grants upto 14 attacks on turn 1. If your allies play along, it's broken.

Elven Critters Crit op with crit generation. 5 of these will end anything. Broken.

King Fisher Optimized net user.  Moderate.

Boominator Fun catch-22 booming blade build with either strong or completely broken damage depending on your reading.

Very Distracting Warlock Lot's of dazing and major penalties to hit. Overpowered.

Pocket Protector Pixie Stealth Knight. Maximizing the defender's aura by being in an ally's/enemy's square.

Yakuza NinjIntimiAdin: Perma-stealth Striker that offers a little protection for ally's, and can intimidate bloodied enemies. Very Strong.

Chargeburgler with cheese Ranged attacks at the end of a charge along with perma-stealth. Solid, could be overpowered if tweaked.

Void Defender Defends giving a penalty to hit anyone but him, then removing himself from play. Can get somewhat broken in epic.

Scry and Die Attacking from around corners, while staying hidden. Moderate to broken, depending on the situation.

Skimisher Fly in, attack, and fly away. Also prevents enemies from coming close. Moderate to Broken depending on the enemy, but shouldn't make the game un-fun, as the rest of your team is at risk, and you have enough weaknesses.

Indestructible Simply won't die, even if you sleep though combat.  One of THE most abusive character in 4e.

Sir Robin (Bravely Charge Away) He automatically slows and pushes an enemy (5 squares), while charging away. Hard to rate it's power level, since it's terrain dependent.

Death's Gatekeeper A fun twist on a healic, making your party "unkillable". Overpowered to Broken, but shouldn't actually make the game un-fun, just TPK proof.

Death's Gatekeeper mk2, (Stealth Edition) Make your party "unkillable", and you hidden, while doing solid damage. Stronger then the above, but also easier for a DM to shut down. Broken, until your DM get's enough of it.

Domination and Death Dominate everything then kill them quickly. Only works @ 30, but is broken multiple ways.

Battlemind Mc Prone-Daze Protecting your allies by keeping enemies away. Quite powerful.

The Retaliator Getting hit deals more damage to the enemy then you receive yourself, and you can take plenty of hits. Heavy item dependency, Broken.

Dead Kobold Transit Teleports 98 squares a turn, and can bring someone along for the ride. Not fully built, so i can't judge the power.

Psilent Guardian Protect your allies, while being invisible. Overpowered, possibly broken.

Rune of Vengance Do lot's of damage while boosting your teams. Strong to slightly overpowered.

Charedent BarrageA charging ardent. Fine in a normal team, overpowered if there are 2 together, and easily broken in teams of 5.

Super Knight A tough, sticky, high damage knight. Strong.

Super Duper Knight Basically the same as super knight with items, making it far more broken.

Mora, the unkillable avenger Solid damage, while being neigh indestuctable. Overpowered, but not broken.

Swordburst Maximus At-Will Close Burst 3 that slide and prones. Protects allies with off actions. Strong, possibly over powered with the right party.

Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.

So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.

As a LEGO purist, I must protest ;)

The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).



Kre-o, Lego and Megabloks all work well together in most cases
Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.

So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.

As a LEGO purist, I must protest ;)

The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).



Kre-o, Lego and Megabloks all work well together in most cases




As another lego purist. No. We do not contaminate the pure source.
Lego and Hasbro are in direct competition Hasbro makes their own brand of blocks called Kreeo.  So the chances of that actually happening are probably better than a the Earth spinning the opposite direction tomorrow, but not much better I would wager.

So make Kre-o D&D stuff.

Same idea.

As a LEGO purist, I must protest ;)

The bigger question is do kre-o and lego work together? (currently i only have legos).



Kre-o, Lego and Megabloks all work well together in most cases




As another lego purist. No. We do not contaminate the pure source.



Also there's the issue of no brand recognition, the lego suggestion was based on this I've never seen Kre-O anywhere, this thread is the first I've heard of it so unless Target carries it (all zellers across Canada are being replaced by targets) it won't being a good marketing move at least up here....really Megabloks took almost 10 years to lose the "fake lego" reputation I doubt Kre-o wouldn't gain this title for at least a bit

As for purists I don't care I buy both Megablocks and Legos basically which happens to have a set I'm looking for but it does show that if its not Lego it won't work as well for Marketing and it defina=tely lacks the ability to have the widesoead appeal of the Lego video games
this thread is the first I've heard of it so unless Target carries it (all zellers across Canada are being replaced by targets) it won't being a good marketing move at least up here....


According to the Kre-O website, Kre-O can be found in Wal-Mart, Amazon, K-Mark, Toys-R-Us and, yes, Target.  Right now, they only have sets for Transformers and Battleship.  They are slated to have some sets for Star Trek to coincide with this summer's movie.  I doubt Kre-O will release a D&D set without a major D&D movie.  (Which means, basically, they won't do it.)
2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

I like this idea.  Encounters is what brought me back to D&D.  

Though, I doubt Next, which is so focused on existing fans, would be the ideal edition to target "non-players."  



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I doubt Kre-O will release a D&D set without a major D&D movie.

Well, the way forward should be rather obvious, then.

D&D Next = D&D: Quantum Edition
2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

I like this idea.  Encounters is what brought me back to D&D.  

Though, I doubt Next, which is so focused on existing fans, would be the ideal edition to target "non-players."  






I'd say run encounters with "Basic" Rules so it could be easily intro'd to new players than of course most home groups would likely be running by Advanced rules and any players transfering from encounters to a home game could be brought up to speed.
The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           

free copies of the dnd game to schools across america!   Make it easy for kids to get into.
The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           

free copies of the dnd game to schools across america!   Make it easy for kids to get into.



That's a great one.  Put it in the libraries of middle and high schools. 
The title didn't work using marketing. 

Here are my thoughts on how to draw new players:

1.  Have guest appearances by Chris Perkins, etc. on that new geek show.  There is an RPG developer on there already so it makes sense to have someone from Wizard's there acting as a judge or whatever.  This includes having someone from Wizard's be on (my brain is failing - the other geek show with all the awards and Sheldon).

2.  Have Encounters or whatever the new one is switch to Barnes and Noble's and other large retailers.  I am sure they could set upa deal with them that would be minimal cost.  Maybe the parents will begin to wonder why their kids insist on "studying" every Wednesday night at 6 at the book store.    The same could be said for Starbucks or coffee shops.  This venue opens it up a lot to non-players.

3.  Bring back the cartoon or something similar.  I know a lot of people didn't like the show (remember uni?), but it did a lot to make it more accpetable.  Also, why we're at it, have Lego build a D&D set.  Good god, how easy is that?  Aren't Legos owned by Hasbro?

Thoughts and opinions (and corrections ).           

free copies of the dnd game to schools across america!   Make it easy for kids to get into.



That's a great one.  Put it in the libraries of middle and high schools. 



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