Deck-Isochron Sceptor

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Thinking of starting a deck around Isochron Sceptor, what are the best cards, in your opinon, to build around?
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Dramatic Rescue
Eladamri's Call
Grisly Salvage
Heroes' Reunion
Hindering Light
Swerve
Terminate

Charms are pretty good since they give you three options.

Some sick cards, thanks!
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Here's a few more:

Artifact Mutation
Aura Mutation
Dash Hopes
Druid's Deliverance

Druid's Deliverance is insane with Isochron
and here's some more:

False Cure
Geth's Verdict
Graceful Reprieve
Lightning Helix

If you can get 3 in your graveyard the Burst cards are pretty good but may not be worth the trouble it depends.

Ether Burst
Flame Burst
Life Burst
Muscle Burst
AEther Burst

EDIT: Wow that card is impossible to link lol 
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AEther Burst

EDIT: Wow that card is impossible to link lol 


Indeed!!!
Aggressive Urge: Technically, any 1-2 CMC instant-speed cantrip, but I like the Urge just because it combos so well with Precursor Golem.
Counterspell: Because just try it.
Crop Rotation: The trick here is that on the stick, you don't have to pop a land to cast it. And yes, that says "land" not "basic land" or any other bull like that. No, this lets you get out your Tolarian Academy or Gaea's Cradle or Strip Mine or Alchemist's Refuge or Mishra's Workshop or Bazaar of Baghdad or (over three turns) your Tron.
Fog/Tangle/Druid's Deliverance: Now, I like that you're attacking, I feel good for you, and I'm-a let you finish, but you'll never do combat damage to me again!
Geth's Verdict: Edicts get through everything (with the downside that your opponent gets to choose), and (for the purposes of the stick) this is the best one.
Silence: This works particularly well with Seedborn Muse. Instant solid lock.
Stand // Deliver: Just for "Don't worry. None of the cards in my deck can 'destroy' a land." And yes, you can do this with any split card where half of it's an instant with CMC 2 or less.
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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Counterspell, Boomerang, Lightning Bolt and Terminate are cards I most often imprinted. Memory Lapse is good fun. Just imagine imprinting the new Boros charm. Fire/Ice. Really anything that disrupts the opponent is just sick with the stick.
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Falter with Bower Passage out is nice. o hai mai d00dz r unblockable!
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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turn to frog boomerang dreadbore 


dreadbore is a sorcery, instant only
I've got a question: If you play something with additional cost do you have to pay it while uisnig ''the stick''?

Edit: Second one: If spell has X in its cost for example Devil's Play what will happen?
I've got a question: If you play something with additional cost do you have to pay it while uisnig ''the stick''?

Edit: Second one: If spell has X in its cost for example Devil's Play what will happen?



I am pretty sure this is something for the rules forum, but ill answer anyways.

Q1: Depends on the additional cost. Somethings like kicker are optional, but if you are playing something that starts you need to do something as an aditional cost like Tinker for example you MUST pay that.

Q2: On the scepter X=0 same goes for any X spell being copied unless otherwise stated by the card.
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Orim's Chant is all you need for a lock versus any deck not running man lands.

Counterspell on a scepter gets you a lock with Arcane Laboratory/Rule of Law, but 'ware instants

Removal (Terminate) is nice

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my favourite is Research // Development

3 cards or 3 3/1 creatures for sound like a fair deal to me ;)
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moment of silence stops his attack in its tracks
Reclaim in a miracle deck is good lulz.
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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Enlightened Tutor is one I like.
Find a stick, or get another one.
Putting E-tutor on a stick, in a deck with utility artifacts can also be quite useful.  
angel's grace on 1 scepter
final fortune on another

good luck losing

Crop Rotation: The trick here is that on the stick, you don't have to pop a land to cast it.

Wrong. You have to sacrifice a land each time you cast Crop Rotation. No exceptions.

I watched five pklayers tear their collective hair out trying to deal with two Scepters, one with Mana Drain and the other with Stifle.

The one I still want to try out is Word of Command.
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Crop Rotation: The trick here is that on the stick, you don't have to pop a land to cast it.

Wrong. You have to sacrifice a land each time you cast Crop Rotation. No exceptions.

I watched five pklayers tear their collective hair out trying to deal with two Scepters, one with Mana Drain and the other with Stifle.

The one I still want to try out is Word of Command.



I wanna start by stating that yes you are correct. However I would like to add the reasoning behind this. The oricle text of this card was erraticated to say as an additional cost. If the card however was played by it's original wording then you would not have to sacrifice a land due to that fact it never gets played and only gets copied
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No, it gets copied, then cast.

edit: also, lol @ "erraticated"
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I have 2 scepters in my current Azorius guild-themed deck, along with some old school counterspells. I got both scepters out one game, with azorius charm on one, counterspell on the other. If something aggressive made it into play, I'd slap it back on top of their library, then counter it the moment they tried to cast it. If nothing happened that turn, I'd simply give my creatures lifelink, or just draw a card. Good times.

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I wanna start by stating that yes you are correct. However I would like to add the reasoning behind this. The oricle text of this card was erraticated to say as an additional cost. If the card however was played by it's original wording then you would not have to sacrifice a land due to that fact it never gets played and only gets copied

No, that is simply not true.

Copying a spell menas you don't cast it, do not (and indeed can not) pay the cost to cast etc etc. Cards like Fork let you copy spells.

Isochron Scepter does not copy a spell - it copies a card. Since the original is in exile, the copy is created in exile. In order for that copy to exist beyond the SBA check that follows the resolution of the Scepter, it must be moved either to the battlefield (impossible because it is an instant) or to the stack. The only mechanism to move an object onto the stack is to cast a spell. Therefore, the copy of a card has always been cast. No exceptions.
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So finally you mean there's still a need to pay additional costs like sacrifice
when you copy spell with scepter, right?
correct, because you don't copy a spell, you copy a card and cast it

(Goblin Grenade is a sorcery and cannot be imprinted on the Scepter)
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You are still not "playing" the card you are copying it which is my point I never said it was copying the spell. Which is why iso + what ever gets around Rule of Law/Arcane Laboratory. Also read Isochron Scepter It says you may "copy" the card which is not "playing" the card. "Casting" and "playing" are different as well where you can play and cast a card. A good example of playing and not casting a card would be playing a land. The act of playing a card is before the casting of a card. The oricle text was changed to "as an additional cost" is my point.

Edit: It apears they have changed the oricle text on thos as well so I guess magic has changed alot since I have stoped playing. 
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"play" means "cast" for nonland cards

and read the Oracle text, it does say "cast"
that was not a functional change, it's just changed for clarity, since you can't imprint land cards anyway
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"play" means "cast" for nonland cards

and read the Oracle text, it does say "cast"
that was not a functional change, it's just changed for clarity, since you can't imprint land cards anyway



It def was changed back when I played competitively I had a Iso deck with acrane laboratory and had a DCI judge rule that using Iso did not count against the acrane laboratory. I am not denying what the rules state today just saying back when I played they allowed it. 
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the Judge was wrong
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I had ishron scepter for ages in my folder never truly realising its amazing potenial, then one day i realised and since that day my one ishron ahs been in my vampire deck almost always attached to a dawn charm  which is just awesome, unless someone has a way to destroy the scepter then it often gets me the game, target me with a spell, yeah okay counter it, attack me? yeah okay prevent combat damage, destroy one of my creatures? yeah sure ill regen it, when i play it my friends are like "oh ffs here we go i bet its dawn charm" xD
It def was changed back when I played competitively I had a Iso deck with acrane laboratory and had a DCI judge rule that using Iso did not count against the acrane laboratory. I am not denying what the rules state today just saying back when I played they allowed it. 

The Scepter was designed to copy a card and cast that card. It has always worked that way.

The only change to the way the Scepter worked was to rein in some shenanigans possible with Mizzium Transreliquat copying a Panoptic Mirror, imprinting a high CMC instantsuch as Force of Will then transmuting itself to a Scepter and still being able to cast the FoW (for ).
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You're gonna go with Force of Will as your example? Because really, it's just Counterspell by another name once on a pseudo-stick.
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