How will Cathar's Crusade effect multiple tokens?

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Like i says, If you have Cathars' Crusade out and Genesis Chamber and you bring out lets say 5 nontoken creatures so 5 myr tokens will come out, will one of those tokens be a 6/6 then the next a 5/5 then a 4/4 then a 3/3 and last a 1/1, then if you bring out 10 more tokens next turn will they all get +10/+10 but you will have 10 new tokens that have 11/11, 10/10, 9/9 etc

this is very confusing to me :/
Like i says, If you have Cathars' Crusade out and Genesis Chamber and you bring out lets say 5 nontoken creatures so 5 myr tokens will come out, will one of those tokens be a 6/6 then the next a 5/5 then a 4/4 then a 3/3 and last a 1/1, then if you bring out 10 more tokens next turn will they all get +10/+10 but you will have 10 new tokens that have 11/11, 10/10, 9/9 etc

this is very confusing to me :/



Are the five non-token creatures entering the battlefield all at the same time?

Five non-token creatures enter the battlefield at the same time.
Cathars' Crusade and Genesis Chamber both trigger.
The triggers are placed on top of the stack in any order you want.
You probably want it placed like the following.

---top of stack---
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
---bottom of stack---

Resolve the top of the stack and put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Cathars' Crusade triggers.
You have one 1/1 Myr creature.
---top of stack---
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
---bottom of stack---

Resolve the top of the stack and put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Resolve the top of the stack and put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Cathars' Crusade triggers.
You have two 1/1 Myr creatures.
---top of stack---
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
---bottom of stack---

Resolve the top of the stack and put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Resolve the top of the stack and put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Cathars' Crusade triggers.
You have three 1/1 Myr creatures.
---top of stack---
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
---bottom of stack---

Resolve the top of the stack and put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Resolve the top of the stack and put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Cathars' Crusade triggers.
You have four 1/1 Myr creatures.
---top of stack---
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
---bottom of stack---

Resolve the top of the stack and put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Resolve the top of the stack and put a 1/1 Myr artifact creature token onto the battlefield.
Cathars' Crusade triggers.
You have five 1/1 Myr creatures.
---top of stack---
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
---bottom of stack---

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that does make sense, but im not sure aboutthe timing, you see im using a cloudstone curio and two cloud of faeries which unless is countered in some way it will create as many tokens as you like, so how does that work with the stack, i assume the first stack will have to resolve before cloud of faireies ability resolves, so if you bring in 50 tokens in one turn doing this, am i right in thinking the first token you bring out by the end will be a 51/51, and the last will be a 2/2?
You forgot cathar's crusade triggering for each myr token that comes in.

the triggers from faeries, curio, crusade and chamber all go on the stack at the same time in the order you chose. Assuming you have no way to give your other faeries flash the triggers all resolve before you can can cast the other one.


Starting with one Cloud of Faeries, Cloudstone Curio, Cathars' Crusade and Genesis Chamber in play:

Cast Cof #2 and it resolves:

Matrix Trigger
Crusade Trigger
Curio Trigger 
Faeries trigger

Matrix Trigger resolves, creating a myr triggering Crusade again.

So whet the rest resolve you have a myr with 2 +1/+1 counters and your 1st Faeries back in hand.

From then on each new myr will cause Cathar's Crusade to give 2 counters to the myrs before it, one for the new myr and one for the Faeries.


if you create 50 myr the first will be 101/101 then 99/99 down to 3/3.      

       

If they ETB at the same time, they resolve at the same time.

So, if I cast Increasing Devotion with Cathars' Crusade out, my five 1/1 humans come out, then Cathars' Crusade triggers five times. When I flash it back, I get 10 1/1 humans, so Cathars' Crusade triggers 10 times.

And remember, a Doubling Season will double the tokens and the +1/+1 counters from Cathars' Crusade (which really quadruples the +1/+1 counters since you get double the triggers).
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