Tokens in the graveyard

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Let's say i have Vulturous Zombie in play and my opponent has a token creature that dies. Does my Vulturous Zombie get +1/+1 due to it's ability even though a Token technically does not stay in the graveyard?  Thanks.
tokens are not cards
Vulturous Zombie cares about cards
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tokens are not cards
Vulturous Zombie cares about cards

Ok, so then let's say i have Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and a token of mine goes in the graveyard. Does it count?
Note that things that don't care about cards.  Blade of the Bloodchief will trigger fine when a token creature goes to the graveyard.
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Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord counts creature cards, which again, tokens are not
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tokens are not cards
Vulturous Zombie cares about cards

Ok, so then let's say i have Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and a token of mine goes in the graveyard. Does it count?


Jarad's first ability also only counts cards.  His first activated ability can be activated by saccing a token.
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Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord counts creature cards, which again, tokens are not

Ok, K-Mogg basically just contradicted what you just told me. if Blade of the Bloodchief counts tokens as creatures, then so should Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord...no?
tokens are not cards
Vulturous Zombie cares about cards

Ok, so then let's say i have Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and a token of mine goes in the graveyard. Does it count?


Jarad's first ability also only counts cards.  His first activated ability can be activated by saccing a token.



Ok, so key term here being "Creature card" right? If it would say just creature then it would be just fine?
Correct.
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Correct.

Great, thanks people. You're a big help.
tokens are not cards
Vulturous Zombie cares about cards

Ok, so then let's say i have Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord and a token of mine goes in the graveyard. Does it count?


Jarad's first ability also only counts cards.  His first activated ability can be activated by saccing a token.



Ok, so key term here being "Creature card" right? If it would say just creature then it would be just fine?


Not in the case of Jarad, because as you noted in your first post, tokens don't stay in the graveyard long enough to ever matter for Jarad's ability even if it didn't say "card".

Tokens do go to the graveyard and will trigger anything that cares about this, however, they (a) cease to exist the next time state-based actions are done, which is just before the next opportunity any player has to play anything, and long before you could, say, deal combat damage with anything, and (b) are not cards and never count toward anything that specifically says "card".

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