[GTC-ICD] Ghor-Clan Rampager

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Ghor-Clan Rampager (Uncommon) -
Creature - Beast
Trample
Bloodrush - , Discard Ghor-Clan Rampager: Target attacking creature gets +4/+4 and gains trample until end of turn.
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Jeez, you guys are getting faster and faster. You're absolutely smoking me this spoiler season...
Doesn't seem playable. No haste kills it.

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this is excellent
not as a creature, but for the Bloodrush
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Oh wow.

That's almost certainly a constructed card; didn't Colossal Might get significant constructed play?

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So, you guys know how Bloodfray Giant simply wasn't beatable on turn 4 on the play?


Yeah, this is better than Bloodfray Giant.
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werent a bunch of people saying that any trample bloodrush would only give MINIMAL P/T boosts? lol

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limited is fine. RG for +4/+4 and trample is fine, but the cost is also discard creature card.
Completely bonkers in limited won't see constructed play.

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limited is fine. RG for +4/+4 and trample is fine, but the cost is also discard creature card.

no
the cost is just to discard this card
just like you'd "discard" a Giant Growth
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No kidding. It's almost : Destroy target blocker and deal some face damage in the process.
Very good for its bloodrush cost.
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This is good.  2 mana pump and trample is likely good enough to see some play
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Okay, so limited wise...


Whut.  So I can either have a 4/4 with trample for 4cmc... or G+R for +4/+4 and gives trample.  At uncommon.


I think I am going to need to show up an hour early for my prerelease just to make sure I can get Gruul.
4/4 Trample for 4 or a Titanic Growth+Trample?  Love it.  The Bloodrush ability on this card could push it into many a constructed deck.   
Owwww.  I think this one holds some promise.
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It'll see constructed for the bloodrush.

Between this and Big Pig, Gruul is looking bonkers.
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methinks orzhov might actually be the only guild that can survive the unloading of hands gruul is threatening... this is nuts
In a world where pump spells are playable in Standard, you can't get much better than this. If this world is our world, I don't know. Completely bonkers in limited, though.

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methinks orzhov might actually be the only guild that can survive the unloading of hands gruul is threatening... this is nuts


I think Gruul will kill before the Orzhov can get an extort engine going.
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limited is fine. RG for +4/+4 and trample is fine, but the cost is also discard creature card.

no
the cost is just to discard this card
just like you'd "discard" a Giant Growth

Except you also have the benefit of your pump spell being utterly uncounterable, barring some Stifle shenanigans.
Splash :W: for this Boros keyrune.  Or splash for this in boros with a Keyrune on the board.

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Seriously though, Gruul is looking more intimidating by the card.  People thought Bloodrush would be overcosted, but so far we have the ever efficient Swine, and now this at uncommon.  Gruul is going to be the monster in the house methinks.
Doesn't seem playable. No haste kills it.


Who needs haste when you have Super-haste?
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10/10. Amazing.
It's obviously not competing for the 4-drop creature slot where Hellrider and friends rule. The fact that is can be played as a sub-par 4-drop when you need it is just icing on the delicious extremely-efficient-pump-spell cake.
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Wow, way to go Gruul.
Seems constructed playable. Even better than the Bloodrush Boar. Have to grab 2 of these to screw around with in my Naya list.
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This card is going to be ****ing gross in limited. My god. 
This is nuts! As a creature its decent and the Bloodrush is bonkers.
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Seems borked in limited - choose between uncounterable colossal might with +0/+2 or leashed bloodfray giant with +0/+1.

Yeh, I would draft this highly.
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Seems borked in limited - choose between uncounterable colossal might with +0/+2 or leashed bloodfray giant with +0/+1.

Yeh, I would draft this highly.




I understand how this gets around thalia's ability but how is this uncounterable? Was confused when I read that in the featured article as well....is the way its worded getting around it actually being cast and its more like your activating an ability of Ghor-clan? Sorry ahead of time for my ignorance :/
Seems borked in limited - choose between uncounterable colossal might with +0/+2 or leashed bloodfray giant with +0/+1.

Yeh, I would draft this highly.




I understand how this gets around thalia's ability but how is this uncounterable? Was confused when I read that in the featured article as well....is the way its worded getting around it actually being cast and its more like your activating an ability of Ghor-clan? Sorry ahead of time for my ignorance :/



You're activating a mana ability....not casting a spell, so it never goes on the stack.  Thus, priority is never passed, and that snotty blue mage doesn't get to say "no!" ;)
YES YES YES! A 4/4 trample for 4 or a discard to for red/green to give a creature 4/4 and trample? THIS is how I imagined the mechanic to turn out.

Bomb in limited and a 4 of in my Gruul deck. Bloodrush has potential to be a great mechanic, and this card proves it very well.
Oh man, Gruul gonna be crazy at limited, maybe I should swap to gruul instead of boros?
well might just wait for full spoiler.
This card is very good in limited, might see constructed play, its very simple and no downside, I like it!! 
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Seems borked in limited - choose between uncounterable colossal might with +0/+2 or leashed bloodfray giant with +0/+1.

Yeh, I would draft this highly.




I understand how this gets around thalia's ability but how is this uncounterable? Was confused when I read that in the featured article as well....is the way its worded getting around it actually being cast and its more like your activating an ability of Ghor-clan? Sorry ahead of time for my ignorance :/



You're activating a mana ability....not casting a spell, so it never goes on the stack.  Thus, priority is never passed, and that snotty blue mage doesn't get to say "no!" ;)




Close, but not quite You're just activating an ability of the card, not actually casting it - therefore, there's no 'spell to counter as such. Stifle would work to counter Bloodrush though.

Mana abilities are things that add mana to your mana pool, and there you're exactly right, they can't be responded to ;) 
4/4 and trample, nice artwork, and good typing...

And to make something +4/+4? Jesus...this is a 4 of for Gruul, without a doubt. 
Solid Bloodrush card, will see play for sure.
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Close, but not quite You're just activating an ability of the card, not actually casting it - therefore, there's no 'spell to counter as such. Stifle would work to counter Bloodrush though.

Mana abilities are things that add mana to your mana pool, and there you're exactly right, they can't be responded to ;) 



Which brings to an interesting thought, now that you mentions Stifle:

It seems like a perfect time for a Stifle-like printing.  Plenty of activated/triggered abilities out for it to be relevant, and it's not incredibly powerful.  I could see something being printed at Uncommon, though not exactly stifle.  Maybe not stifle per-se, but a counter to activated abilities.

Just a musing.