The Grognards Advice to Edition Cycles.

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 Some of you can probably guess my opinion of 4th ed. Putting that aside for a moment here is my advice to deal with edition cycles. Personally I have been here before back in 95 when we went from BECM to 2nd ed, 2000,2003 and 2008. There are a few thngs I would and would not do.

1. There is nothing making you change if you don't want to. The WoTC ninjas are not going to come and take your books away.

2. Players will tend to try out a new edition and the old edition will not be very popular for a while as people flock to the latest book. Its new and shiny and old is bad. This can make getting new players harder but its not much of a problem if your  existing players are not to fussed. Casuals will tend to play whatever the DM offers them.

3. Don't sell you books in the aftermath of a new edition and the time leading up to it. For starters you will not get a great price for your books as prices tend to be low and these days they will be getting dumped on Ebay. I am a hoarder myself and tend to buy older edition stuff if I see it somewhere and it is cheap enough. Use this time to complete any sets of books you may have missed.

4. Its probably a safer bet to not sell anything unless you are starving and really need money badly. In 1995 I sold off my copy of the D&D rules cyclopedia for $15 or so. I have been kicking myself for years over that one. If I sold it now I could buy alot of 3.5/4th ed/PF books but I still wouldn't sell it. Older edition stuff can still be usefull espicially a plot device/fluff or a map that you like. Things like that are mostly edition neutral. If you don't like it or don't want it pack it up and forget about it for a few years. Tastes change and you never know if you will want it again.

5. One doesn't have to buy a new PHB on release (or buy one at all). D&D is usually helped out by a few splats and the quality of a editions books tends to decline in the final 3rd or so of an editions life cycle with a few exceptions. Ealry splats in an edition cycle tend to be the good ones.  The Complete Fighter, Complete Warriors and Martial/Divine Power are all useful books in 2nd/3rd/4th and all came out early in the edition cycle. PHB2 type books are good to get.

6. Aquire hard to aquire books sooner rather than later as the price will tend to go one way on these. Core rules, PHB2, MM and things like that tend to remain cheap forever. Limited release books and compendiums that are very useful to have and are popular tend to go up in price. As I understand it the Adventurers Vault is an expensive 4th ed book. IDK about the others but here are a few RPG books that I do know are expensive. Adventurers Vault, Rules Cyclopedia (BECM compendium), Pirates and Privateers (D6 Star Wars), Starships of the Galaxy and Knights of the Old Republic (Stare Wars Saga). The  they are all very useful books to have in their respective genres. Its hard to predict what is going to be popular though.

 Oh well thats more or less it.

 Fear is the Mind Killer

 

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 Love you to. 10 000 posts in two years says alot.

 I do know how things like Ebay work in terms of pricing trends. DDI may be gone one day and if you want to keep playing 4th ed grab them when they are cheap. If DDI dies some 4th ed books might get pricey. Back in 2001 on these forums you could sell your books and I picked up several second ed books on the cheap becuase 3.0 was the new thing and they were being sold for cheap. I did not intend on ever using them but cheap is cheap.

 Fear is the Mind Killer

 



 Love you to. 10 000 posts in two years says alot.



And the fact that you have been here since 95 and still can't click the spellcheck button says a lot about you. The fact that you are grown and cannnot comprehend the difference between "to" and "too" and "there" and "their" also says a lot about you. And the fact that you have nothing better to do in your life than troll the rpg forums for games you don't even like...that says an awful lot about you as well. Over half my posts are in the VT forums running/playing in actual games; 99% of the vomit that has poured out of your mouth over the last 10+ years appears to be nothing but worthless edition-warring trash.


That's the pot calling the kettle black... Froths, man c'mon... For the longest time you didn't capitalize or even use proper punctuation. Sure he seems kinda "Obey Me" like with this post, but no reason to pounce on him like that.

Come to 4ENCLAVE for a fan based 4th Edition Community.

 

I should probably be more careful in my writing as I tend to type fast and hit submit. Its a message board not an english class. The boards used to be a nicer place, get used to opinions different than yours. Hypersensitive much.

 Fear is the Mind Killer

 

The WoTC ninjas are not going to come and take your books away.



FASA was bad about that.

The carnage that happened when they came to replace my SR1 books with SR2 books was ghastly. 
The WoTC ninjas are not going to come and take your books away.



FASA was bad about that.

The carnage that happened when they came to replace my SR1 books with SR2 books was ghastly. 



 Do tell not familiar with it.

 Fear is the Mind Killer

 



FASA was bad about that.

The carnage that happened when they came to replace my SR1 books with SR2 books was ghastly. 



 Do tell not familiar with it.



It was a running joke in their games.  "No, we're not going to send teams to get your books."  "We're definitely not doing that, because we're not done with getting the books from the other system yet."  
Ah ok. My bad then thanks for the info.

 Fear is the Mind Killer

 


4. Its probably a safer bet to not sell anything unless you are starving and really need money badly. In 1995 I sold off my copy of the D&D rules cyclopedia for $15 or so. I have been kicking myself for years over that one. If I sold it now I could buy alot of 3.5/4th ed/PF books but I still wouldn't sell it. Older edition stuff can still be usefull espicially a plot device/fluff or a map that you like. Things like that are mostly edition neutral. If you don't like it or don't want it pack it up and forget about it for a few years. Tastes change and you never know if you will want it again.


QFT. I'm still kicking myself for selling my old Planescape stuff. I don't even remember what I spent the money on, but I remember how great that art and fluff text was.

I have digital copies, but it's not the same.
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