[GTC-ICD] Syndic of Tithes

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Syndic of Tithes
1W
Common
Creature - Human Cleric
Extort
"Entrance is free. Donations are required."
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2/2
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go-go Extort bear     
I like this a lot.  Finally, some cheap extort cards.
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This is actually pretty solid.
Ok I guess doubt it's constructed playable.

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yay bear.

bear with extort. 
seems pretty good, early extorter

I think it would be cool if there are some 0 cost artifacts that aren't useless (0 cost equipment) for extortion fun
Very solid card, seems excellent in limited (esp. draft).

Am I the only one who's very amused by the Thrull's expression?

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192884403 wrote:
surely one can't say complex conditional passive language is bad grammar ?
Orzhov looks like it's going to do the same thing my Izzet Guttersnipe deck does... And it just possibly might do it better
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Was hoping this would be a thing, can't go wrong with set mechanic bears.
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Monowhite is supposed to be symbolic pure good—and therefore, a monowhite entity wouldn't involve itself with a corrupt organization or corrupt actions (like extortion).

That's why this makes me saaaaad.



1. Mono-white is not a symbol of pure good.

2. This is not mono-white.

3. The Orzhov guild, the same one it was 7 years ago, is half white, so yes, when white joins with black, this is exactly the type of organization it would be apart of. 
Monowhite is supposed to be symbolic pure good—and therefore, a monowhite entity wouldn't involve itself with a corrupt organization or corrupt actions (like extortion).

That's why this makes me saaaaad.



Monowhite is symbolic of pure idealism, not "good." White is idealistic, and with power has the means of constraining others to its vision (it doesn't trust others to their own paths), and thus is the color of totalitarianism, Balance, and fascism. These are the negative attributes of White, and they are the reasons why White gets sweepers.
"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count." "Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969) "Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
I'm going to disagree; this card is perfectly in-flavor. Also, it's excellent. Nay very well see play in my standard deck.
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Monowhite is supposed to be symbolic pure good—and therefore, a monowhite entity wouldn't involve itself with a corrupt organization or corrupt actions (like extortion).

That's why this makes me saaaaad.


Then I can imagine New Phyrexia would make you even more sad.
Lolalpha. Were you aware that there have been roughly 70 other sets that introduced cards or defined color balance, not including Commander and Planechase sets. Nice troll though.
Favorite set: Arabian Nights Favorite planeswalker: Taysir, the One Made of Five Favorite book cycle: Ice Age Favorite creature type(s): Elephant (W), Minotaur (R), Shade (B), Spider (G), Cephalid (U) Myr (Artifact) Pauper: Monoblack Control Modern: Zombie Tribal; Unyaro Stax Cube: The Moons of Mirrodin
Go now. Go to the Gatherer, and search Limited Edition: Alpha. Take a good hard look at those monowhite designs. When you come back, you should have a better understanding of what White is supposed to embody (pure good, holiness). If you don't, your problem is likely just more comprehensive than simply misunderstanding.



If you wanna go play with your Alpha mono-white cards, that's fine, but here, 20 years in the future, white has evolved a bit, and there is this lil thing called multicolour as well. Despite the changes that have taken place for white in this time, this is not actually a mono-white card, it is a black/white card. I think it is you who misunderstand.
White is actually the most evil color in Magic: the Gathering. Do you want me to link you to irrefutable proof that it is, Kevin?

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192884403 wrote:
surely one can't say complex conditional passive language is bad grammar ?
I actually want to see this
[C]Armageddon[/c]?
Favorite set: Arabian Nights Favorite planeswalker: Taysir, the One Made of Five Favorite book cycle: Ice Age Favorite creature type(s): Elephant (W), Minotaur (R), Shade (B), Spider (G), Cephalid (U) Myr (Artifact) Pauper: Monoblack Control Modern: Zombie Tribal; Unyaro Stax Cube: The Moons of Mirrodin
gotta love these value bears. probably going into my cube.
Go now. Go to the Gatherer, and search Limited Edition: Alpha. Take a good hard look at those monowhite designs. When you come back, you should have a better understanding of what White is supposed to embody (pure good, holiness). If you don't, your problem is likely just more comprehensive than simply misunderstanding.



Wrath of God - Jihad - Crusade

If "Holocaust" were a card, it would be White. (Appologies to all this offends, to make this point fragily as possible would miss the point.)

"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count." "Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969) "Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
Go now. Go to the Gatherer, and search Limited Edition: Alpha. Take a good hard look at those monowhite designs. When you come back, you should have a better understanding of what White is supposed to embody (pure good, holiness). If you don't, your problem is likely just more comprehensive than simply misunderstanding.



Wrath of God - Jihad - Crusade

If "Holocaust" were a card, it would be White. (Appologies to all this offends, to make this point fragily as possible would miss the point.)




Tivadar's Crusade comes to mind.

To be fair, goblins are pretty nasty dudes, but that artwork is kind of unsettling.
Go now. Go to the Gatherer, and search Limited Edition: Alpha. Take a good hard look at those monowhite designs. When you come back, you should have a better understanding of what White is supposed to embody (pure good, holiness). If you don't, your problem is likely just more comprehensive than simply misunderstanding.



Hmm MTG might disagree

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At my worst?

on topic, glad to see cheap extort creatures. Stopped going to FNM to save up for GTC prerelease. Planning on playing Dimir every chance I get.
It's alright I suppose, but far from Constructed playable. I like the flavor text though, and the name is kinda edgy, which me likey.

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Most damning, however:

Mass Calcify

(Not because of the color -- but because it kills the SQUIRRELS. ALL OF THEM.)

Plague Wind doesn't kill it's own at the very least.

Defang makes me cringe, every single time.
Wrath of God is supposed to be symbolic of destroying evil only. Its operation is just more open source, destroying everything instead because the symoblism was intended, and therefore it wasn't strictly enforced within the operation (like Mass Calcify; which secretly stands for "Mass Classify"; as in, to classify the races in ascending order).

Now, Armageddon actually represents destroying the whole world in the event the entire world is corrupted.

No one wants to argue with any of you, I don't think you'll ever see that you've been wrong all this time. And if you do, you're likely too proud to admit it.



Destroy all creatures you don't control ('cause "your stuff" is good) is Black ('cause it's selfish): Plague Wind.

White is indiscriminate about its sweepers: It will blow the wall away in order to stop the block spot from spreading, and so too will wipe the board to stop one creature. It cares not that that druid it nuked by the side of the road was cultivating that grove for the good of his family, or that those soldiers being destroyed were fighting for money to feed theirs. It takes them all, and "lets God sort them out." White is ALOS the color of healers, but this is something it shares with Green; it is the color of exchanges, and balance, but will sacrifice (read, "destroy") where it sees fit to accomplish the larger goal. White will trod on the lives and souls of the few to accomplish the needs of the many. Instead of Spock volunteering to activate the reactor, it's White throwing Spock into the reactor room because that will save the ship. Children of Korlis is sacrificed to gain their controller life lost, the greater good for the greater number.
"Possibilities abound, too numerous to count." "Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969) "Ever since man first left his cave and met a stranger with a different language and a new way of looking at things, the human race has had a dream: to kill him, so we don't have to learn his language or his new way of looking at things." --- Zapp Brannigan (Beast With a Billion Backs)
You forgot Mass Calcify, which doesn't even care about allegiance.
I actually want to see this


Here.

(Zokorad's rebuttal to my first post is one of the funniest things I've read on these forums btw)

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192884403 wrote:
surely one can't say complex conditional passive language is bad grammar ?
Solid at common.
This is a good bear.  Not sure if constructed playable.  Maybe in lesser numbers for providing reach in aggro decks... but I think there are too many other better choices.

Side discussion - white is not the color of good.  Period. This has been established forever ago.

wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/White

"A common misconception is that White stands for Good and that it is a fact without doubt. Granted, if you take a random lot of White cards and compare them with Black cards or Red cards, they will likely give off more of a "Good" feel than the others. However, taking the time to really look into what White is based upon, then you will see that White is not always good. There have been several popular movies where White has been the fascist oppressor, the overpowering government, and the antagonist. Takeshi Konda from the Kamigawa book cycle was a prime example for a White antagonist, obsessed with the mysterious disk he held and bringing his nation glory, but losing sight of the individual; his very own daughter. In many movies White has been an antagonist in the form of law enforcement, government, or a cult (The Fugitive, 1984, and the Wickerman, respectively).

White doesn't always stand for "Good", but it invariably stands for "Good" in its own mind. For the sake of a real life example, however, fascism is very White in essence, and many would argue that fascism is quite evil, though others would certainly disagree. Communism is also a firmly White doctrine, and often reverts to oppression for the sake of "the good of the people" as they see it."

Or straight from the Wizard's mouth:

www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.a...

"Many humans share some global beliefs (the taking of a human life is wrong, for example). Some of white’s tenets line up with some of these universal human beliefs. Therefore white is sometimes seen as the color of “good.” Ah, but white is neither inherently good nor evil. White, as well as every other color in Magic, will do things that can be labeled both “good” and “evil,” and even that might not be consistent from person to person. Preservation of life is very white. Most of you would probably classify that as “good.” Fascism is also very white. Most of you would probably classify that as “evil.”


I mention this because I believe it’s important to separate the white-black conflict from good versus evil. Morality versus amorality. Light versus dark. Purity versus corruption. The white/black conflict takes on many shades, but "good versus evil" is far too subjective to use properly. Let’s take one of the elements of the white/black conflict, the rights of the group versus the rights of the self. This conflict pits socialism versus capitalism. Capitalism is the black side of the argument. Is capitalism inherently evil? I don’t think so. (Although I know there are those that would disagree with me.) I’ll talk more about black (including its “good” side) when we get to Black Week."

Going to shorten this next part to get to the point:

"White Knights


During R&D’s discussion on the Color Wheel, we cut out pictures from magazines and taped them on a giant Color Wheel on the wall to demonstrate how we saw the colors. This section proved to me the most controversial during Green Week so, of course, I had to do it again. Here’s what we considered to be white characters:


Superman


King Arthur


Marge Simpson


Captain Jean-Luc Picard


The Villain from Watchmen – SPOILER – If you haven’t read Watchmen (the best comic series of all time – my opinion, but I’ll stand by it), stop reading this section. Instead, go out and buy a copy of the graphic novel. It’s very good. Okay, the rest of you have all read Watchmen, correct? If not, this is your last chance not to ruin it. Ozymandias is the perfect example of a white villain. His motives are very pure. He believes he is taking actions that will help the world at large. And he is more than willing to sacrifice a few for the greater good of the whole. This proves that white characters are not always good. What separates white villains from black villains (remember I’m talking the Magic color wheel here) is that black villains know they’re doing evil while white villains believe they’re doing good."


 
Now that that discussion is over, let's continue with the card disucssion.

Found another 2-drop for my humans deck, nice!
I'm glad we still go by the Bear standard. Dryad Militant had me worried that everything Bear would become Lion to speed up games.

As for the card itself- it's an extort enabler. It's easy to cast, it feels very :W: an a bit unnerving. The effect is simple and easy to manage, with lots of value opportunities. I also like the play involved in forcing your opponent to use a Murder-izing spell or a Wrath or Ring or Burn on a value dude like this. Especially because if they ignore it, extort snowballs, if they deal with it- they have fewer choices to deal with what matters.
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Ignore Bankai, he is the crazy guy.

The trouble with extort from a design perspective is that I don't really know if it would feel like it's the card that's doing the thing. Would this really feel like more than a bear when you are playing it?
Orzhov looks like it's going to do the same thing my Izzet Guttersnipe deck does... And it just possibly might do it better



Sorry for making a reply largely out of nowhere, but I recently realized that Guttersnipe (and Talrand, etc) work wonders with the Dimir ciphering, since you cast the spell repeatedly essentially for free, and I am incredibly eager to build a deck, regardless of its viability, around that fact.
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Orzhov looks like it's going to do the same thing my Izzet Guttersnipe deck does... And it just possibly might do it better



Sorry for making a reply largely out of nowhere, but I recently realized that Guttersnipe (and Talrand, etc) work wonders with the Dimir ciphering, since you cast the spell repeatedly essentially for free, and I am incredibly eager to build a deck, regardless of its viability, around that fact.



True, but my deck clamps down on defense, and for cipher to work, you have to get a creature through. Which... Oh. Oh yeah Two for one deal with a ciphered Guttersnipe. This may make me rethink my plan to play BUG and go Grixis instead... Putting the Guttersnipe through that way will do seven damage, plus whatever the cipher itself does. Plus you get two damage for casting the cipher card in the first place.
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Land Tax
Angry Mob
Brainwash

Old cards, mono-white, yet obviously not "pure good", and to aptly put:

I don't think you'll ever see that you've been wrong all this time. And if you do, you're likely too proud to admit it.

I actually want to see this


Here.

(Zokorad's rebuttal to my first post is one of the funniest things I've read on these forums btw)



Zokorad's rebuttal was hilarious. Especially since I basically only play black decks now and play a lot of the cards he listed.
Very solid. Looks like Esper cipher/extort might be a thing in limited and Standard.
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Orzhov looks like it's going to do the same thing my Izzet Guttersnipe deck does... And it just possibly might do it better



Sorry for making a reply largely out of nowhere, but I recently realized that Guttersnipe (and Talrand, etc) work wonders with the Dimir ciphering, since you cast the spell repeatedly essentially for free, and I am incredibly eager to build a deck, regardless of its viability, around that fact.



Well then this brings up an important question, if this works, then does Extort work with Ciphering?  Even if you have no spells (say you topdecked a land), can you dumb mana into Extort off of a Cipher trigger? 
Yes, if a spell is cast, even if it's for zero cost, you can pay mana to get the extort effect. And since the cipher triggering is considered casting the spell...
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Yes, if a spell is cast, even if it's for zero cost, you can pay mana to get the extort effect. And since the cipher triggering is considered casting the spell...



You mean, the "encode" triggering. Yes, as rideiculous as it is, there are TWO keywords in there.
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