[GTC-ICD] Vizkopa Confessor

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Vizkopa Confessor (Uncommon) -
Creature - Human Cleric
Extort
When Vizkopa Confessor enters the battlefield, pay any amount of life. Target opponent reveals that many cards from his or her hand. You choose one of them and exile it.
1/3

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Wow, what a horrible card.

Might want to add text and a source. 

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That sounds terrible.  Unless your opponent only has one card in their hand and you somehow know it can destroy you.  Even then, why aren't you playing a better discard spell?
I like the card except for the mana cost.
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I suppose it's a creature stapled to a Thoughtseize, but 5 mana? This is just bad.



now I understand. Money in Ravnica equates to life points in RL.

The theme makes so much sense it's beautiful. You pay life, which is money (Ok maybe this one part) to have your sin erased. Too bad the card is kinda badly designed. No one would pay life to exile stuff early game, and late game unless you're winning, you won't be using that much life anyways. Extort is nice though.

It is uncommon though, I think it's mostly there for extort.
Wow, what a horrible card.

Might want to add text and a source. 



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I first read it and was like WOAH.

Then I realized they don't discard that many card and got really bummed out. How stinky.

But another source of Extortion is welcome for that deck, I suppose.
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Look at Castigate. Now, look at this card. Look back at Castigate. You needed a creature that castigates, you go Tidehollow Sculler; if you wanted to make it a permanent Castigate -- like itself -- then you can shrink the body, not increase the cost. One wonders what the actual cost of Extort is supposed to be, especially as a guild keyword, but surely it can't force this card to be so costly, or prove so good that they had to force you to pay life to "capture" the breadth of your opponent's hand.

I agree with the above: This card is terrible for constructed in an immense number of format -- but I worry it may find itself in EDH -- and is certainly only useful for Limited.
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Constructed, it's horribly overcosted.  In limited, if you can get a fair number of extorters, the life loss should be trivial.  Can remove their best bomb from their hand I suppose.  Still, for 5 mana in limited you kinda want a bit more, but it's not awful there methinks.
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At WB or 1WB I might've played it. 3WB is rediculous. Too costly to even be limited fodder.
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Costs too much. Unlike Rakdos Ringleader though, this might be playable in limited.

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After Alms Beast and Mask Salesman here, the bulk of the remaining Orzhov cards better be good... please? 
This could be the enabler that stops the answer to your Extort engine.  

Probably not, but maybe. 
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Should have been 3 mana 1/1.

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might be ok in a heartless summoning + sphere of safety type deck where extortion is the main way you want to win, but probably not, I think duress does a better job then this card, because you don't have to pay life to see all of their hand.

This card should have been something like

Vizkopa Confessor (Uncommon) - Creature -
Human Cleric
Extort When Vizkopa Confessor enters the battlefield, pay 2 life X amount of times. Target opponent reveals his or her hand. You choose X of them and exile them. 1/3

Is it me or do all of the and :U: cards seem to be overcosted and disapointing; im more excited about the cards not associated with the guilds because I know that wizards won't intentionally screw them over.
So far no one has mentioned the value this card DOES have, even dismissing the only value it DOES have: Limited. First, it provides you something to do when you are well-ahead on life: What is the point of having 35 or so life if you are able to stop other beaters from hitting? Second, it blocks a fair number of common/uncommon Limited beaters, even unleashed ones. Third, one must in this case consider other cards in the set, while this is an uncommon; it clearly slots into overcosted scum that serves an outlet for an excess of a resource you can manage.

It's likely the "bad" of the set, sure, but it's not UNPLAYABLE.
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Wow. This card is getting a lot of hate. And yet, it is a 2-for-1, and it can give you even more value. Yes, it is overcosted, but it would probably be very good at four mana. Obviously this is more of a card for limited, but it isn't nearly as bad as people are point it out for being.

One nitpick, for five mana, this should have read each opponent, not target opponent. Extort seems like a very good ability for multiplayer, and that little change would have made it an Orzhov staple for Commander. As is, you can't afford to spend your resources attacking one person.
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Wow. This card is getting a lot of hate. And yet, it is a 2-for-1, and it can give you even more value. Yes, it is overcosted, but it would probably be very good at four mana. Obviously this is more of a card for limited, but it isn't nearly as bad as people are point it out for being.

One nitpick, for five mana, this should have read each opponent, not target opponent. Extort seems like a very good ability for multiplayer, and that little change would have made it an Orzhov staple for Commander. As is, you can't afford to spend your resources attacking one person.



For five mana, this should have let you exile a card for each life paid...
Wow. This card is getting a lot of hate. And yet, it is a 2-for-1, and it can give you even more value. Yes, it is overcosted, but it would probably be very good at four mana. Obviously this is more of a card for limited, but it isn't nearly as bad as people are point it out for being.

One nitpick, for five mana, this should have read each opponent, not target opponent. Extort seems like a very good ability for multiplayer, and that little change would have made it an Orzhov staple for Commander. As is, you can't afford to spend your resources attacking one person.



For five mana, this should have let you exile a card for each life paid...



Now that's just silly. If this card said that, it would be insanely good. I mean, you'd be getting a better bang for your buck than Rakdos's Return.
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You can keep saying this card is a two for one but it really isn't. a 1/3 creature without evasion isn't good.
You can keep saying this card is a two for one but it really isn't. a 1/3 creature without evasion isn't good.



Nope. No one power three toughness creature without evasion is good.

[Most of those cards replace themselves directly, or represent a temporary replacement.]

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You can keep saying this card is a two for one but it really isn't. a 1/3 creature without evasion isn't good.



Nope. No one power three toughness without evasion is good.

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Nice straw man. 

This guy won't be good in limited or standard or eternal formats. Also, all of those cards do sometihng more powerful than this card. 

My point was that it's not a two for one in this format because 3 toughness isn't strong and 1 power isn't strong.

edit: and none of those cards cost five.  
Bleh, a bit too expensive.
You can keep saying this card is a two for one but it really isn't. a 1/3 creature without evasion isn't good.



Nope. No one power three toughness without evasion is good.

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Nice straw man. 

This guy won't be good in limited or standard or eternal formats. Also, all of those cards do sometihng more powerful than this card. 

My point was that it's not a two for one in this format because 3 toughness isn't strong and 1 power isn't strong.  



I presented no strawman (you might want to look that term up). I took your statement (a factual claim) and refuted it, using a form of response known as rhetoric.
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You can keep saying this card is a two for one but it really isn't. a 1/3 creature without evasion isn't good.



Nope. No one power three toughness without evasion is good.

[Most of those cards replace themselves directly, or represent a temporary replacement.]



Nice straw man. 

This guy won't be good in limited or standard or eternal formats. Also, all of those cards do sometihng more powerful than this card. 

My point was that it's not a two for one in this format because 3 toughness isn't strong and 1 power isn't strong.  



I presented no strawman (you might want to look that term up). I took your statement (a factual claim) and refuted it, using a form of response known as rhetoric.


My statement was about how it wasn't in fact a 2 for 1 but yeah. Keep telling yourself that. 

Get back to me when this card is actually good.  
We don't know if a 1/3 counts as a card in this format. This isn't RTR limited where everything is centaur tokens or 3/2's (even then, a 1/3 does work against the rakdos 1 drop or the regenerator).

This seems fairly costed. 2 mana for the castigate, 2 mana for the 1/3, and an extra mana for the extort ability (extort brings every card closer to playability considering it can win the game on its own). You usually won't have to pay much life to see their whole hand by this point.
Well... it's technically a 2-for-1 as long as you have a ife to spare. If you have enough extra, it'll get you the best card out of their hand, which has the potential to be all right. At 5 mana, however, a 1/3 is going to be a chump block more often than not, so even if it meets the strict definitions, I don't think it's going to see play. Ember Shot is technically a 2-for-1 too, and almost no one's going to try and tell you that's playable.
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way too expensive for sure.
Considering Crypt Ghast is in the set, then the cost isn't too bad of a deal.  As for his effect, the deck should have plenty of extra life thanks to Extort.

Its not a godly card, but its decent enough and very flavourful.
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Considering what it *can* do, I can understand why its costed as it is.

Think about for a momen. 

Play this, exile a card (Pay some life of course).  Play Cloudshift.  Exile a card.  Chump block it, Unburial Rites, exile a card.  Chump again, flashback, exile.  Hey, guess what?  Restoration Angel, exile a card. 

If it were a 1/1 for 2 it would be bonkers.  Even if you only pay 1 or 2 life at that cost you could exile their entire hand over the course of 1-2 turns. So I can understand why it's costed where it is, given how much recursion there is in standard. 

That said, it's not very good in constructed standard.  The cost is a bit overbearing, however it could be useful in an odd-ball Heartless Summon deck as a turn-3 control mechanism.  And boom goes the dynamite. 
Griselbrand. 7 card advantage for 7 life and 8 mana -- with a solid body.

Rakdos Return. 3 card advantage + 4 damage for 6 or 2 card advantage + 3 damage for 5.

Restoration Angel. 1 card advantage for 4 -- with a solid body for it's cost. Can be cloudshifted favorably.

Snapcaster mage. 1 card advantage for 2 -- with a solid body for it's cost. Can be cloudshifted favorably.

Ravenous Rats... Will I call this card advantage?
I don't think I will. Anything with such a small body must be considered a 1.25 for 1.
It needs to be able to trade with a creature to be card advantage, in my opinion.
It's basically a chump block, or: Target player discards a card. Tap target creature without flying that player controls.



Considering Crypt Ghast is in the set, then the cost isn't too bad of a deal.  As for his effect, the deck should have plenty of extra life thanks to Extort.

Its not a godly card, but its decent enough and very flavourful.



What cards with extort are cheap enough to actually let you pay the extort cost???

I'm seeing an Orzhov with so overcosted cards that you won't afford one single extort point up to turn 5-6.
How the heck is Orzhov going to pay the extort cost before and without the Ghast -- which is the ONLY Orzhov card spoiled thus far worth using??

The Ghast being black means that Dimir, Golgari and Rakdos got more powerful in comparison to Orzhov.

Inb4 Orzhov gets a useless wrath.
Avoids culling sun, and...

Nope, that's all I got.

Overcosted for what it does.
I notice the same trend with Rakdos.
After Rakdos "1 less colorless mana for each damage dealt to enemies this turn" Himself at 4, the costs expect you to have double mana for your creatures.

I blame the double-mana for swamps-Ghast for the high costs.

Undercity Plague is going to make better use of the Ghast than any Orzhov cards. 
Considering Crypt Ghast is in the set, then the cost isn't too bad of a deal.  As for his effect, the deck should have plenty of extra life thanks to Extort.

Its not a godly card, but its decent enough and very flavourful.



What cards with extort are cheap enough to actually let you pay the extort cost???

I'm seeing an Orzhov with so overcosted cards that you won't afford one single extort point up to turn 5-6.
How the heck is Orzhov going to pay the extort cost before and without the Ghast -- which is the ONLY Orzhov card spoiled thus far worth using??

The Ghast being black means that Dimir, Golgari and Rakdos got more powerful in comparison to Orzhov.

Inb4 Orzhov gets a useless wrath. 


The cards with extort don't need to be cheap enough to activate multiple extort triggers. You always have cheap cards like Ultimate Price for that.
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I think in limited this guy is better then people are thinking. Everyone is forgetting you are running this in extort theme deck. So you might have life to spare and this guy has extort himself, So mid to late in the game you get get to see your opponents hand (they probably have 3-4 cards at this point?) and exile their best card in said hand.

In constructed it just sucks... 
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