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1. Dark Confidant has been in top decks in modern everywhere and I don't get wats so good about him! Please tell me why!

2. I have been hearing bout Storm Crow and how 'GOOD' it is. Is it really that good?

Thanx in advance!

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I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.

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Dark confident costs 2, swings for two and draws you a card. Decks running it just make sure that the life loss is irrelevant.

Storm crow is a joke. There's a tradition of bandying about the 'awesomeness' of terrible cards and for some reason they just picked a merely 'meh' card.
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Ok I get about storm crow but Phyrexian Arena is much better than Dark Confiant as it doesn't die easily.

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144543765 wrote:
I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.

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*mutters under his breath* Squinty's Wife: "What was that!?!?" Umm, I said.... umm..... ahhh.... *another smack upside the head* Squinty's Wife: "Care to try again?" *shakes head vigerously* Squinty's Wife: "That's better." ~SE++ *whimpering*

Current deck goals:

NON-AGGRO, NON-MONO RED deck (Not getting very far with it though)

Standard mono red deck for FNM next Friday

And u dont have to reveal it.

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144543765 wrote:
I was browsing through some cards in gatherer and I noticed something really odd - the transforming cards from Innistrad like Mayor of Avabruck have separate comments and ratings for each side. Isn't that totally stupid? It feels as senseless as having two different pages for each side of a split card or having different pages for Nimble Mongoose with and without threshold.

56965528 wrote:
*mutters under his breath* Squinty's Wife: "What was that!?!?" Umm, I said.... umm..... ahhh.... *another smack upside the head* Squinty's Wife: "Care to try again?" *shakes head vigerously* Squinty's Wife: "That's better." ~SE++ *whimpering*

Current deck goals:

NON-AGGRO, NON-MONO RED deck (Not getting very far with it though)

Standard mono red deck for FNM next Friday

Storm Crow is the most fantastic card ever because of its first Alliance printings. It came in the same set as Force of Will, which just so happens to be the second-most fantastic card ever. It essentially enabled Storm Crow to be pitched away for free counterspells, which were necessary (and still are) to keep all the degenerate decks of those times in check.
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people use dark confidant in decks full of cheap agressive threats and disruption.   

Its cheaper then phyrexian arena, which is relivant, and can also swing for damage itself.

The fact that it can die, can be good.  If you become worried about your life total, you can block with it, or keep swinging until they have to block and kill it.

The reveal isnt as big a deal as it seams.  Big deal that they see they goyf you just drew.....they were gonna see it come down soon anyway.  same for something like inquisition, or thought sieze, your just gonna cast it most of the time anyway.

Plus when you reveal a land, you loose nothing. which is just a free land.  add in things like brainstorm or devining top, and you can force those lands to be where you want

Its not blaringly loud in its awsomeness like some cards, but its versitile card advantage.
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Dark confidant is better than phyrexian arena in 2 ways:
1:  It's 2 cmc:  in lots of decks, this is a really big deal, because they don't expect to hit their third land until the game is close to over.  Lots of formats are really fast.
2:  It has a 2/1 body:  being able to attack is also a big deal.  Yeah, it makes it easier to kill, but them spending a removal spell on it is still a 1 for 1 trade, and being able to swing 2 every turn is helpful in a lot of decks.

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Dark Confidant also gives you lands for 0 life, something Phyrexian Arena doesn't do.

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1. Dark Confidant has been in top decks in modern everywhere and I don't get wats so good about him! Please tell me why!



In short, paying life isn't a big deal. He costs one less than Phyrexian Arena, which can be a big deal in eternal formats. (Though in Legacy, you'd just use Dark Ritual into Arena, and in Vintage, the cards that inspired Arena are simply restricted to 1 rather than banned, and are far, far, more busted.) I prefer Arena because it doesn't die so easily, though. And you don't have to reveal it. OTOH, you sometimes save 1 life (by drawing a land or Memnite or something like that), but you have to pay more life (by drawing anything with CMC 2 or greater).

 2. I have been hearing bout Storm Crow and how 'GOOD' it is. Is it really that good? Thanx in advance!



It's a joke. Also Chimney Imp, which is even worse. Not Willow Faerie for some reason, even though it's just a green Storm Crow that dies to Apocalypse Chime (for whatever that's worth).

A long-standing joke, really since Legends, is that we make fun of, but fondly remember, bad cards. It helps a lot if Wizards understands how bad the card is, and for the most part, they learn from their mistakes. (I say "for the most part" because Yawgmoth's Bargain is a "fixed" Necropotence, and Fungus Elemental is a much better Wood Elemental. Bargain's even more broken than its ancestor, while Fungus is better than Wood but still not competitive.)

The joke is that Storm Crow is broken, partially because it's blue (and blue had so many broken cards in early Magic), partially because it has "storm" in its name, but mostly as a form of sarcasm. It's sort of a Chuck Norris joke; obviously, Hovermyr is strictly better, and even it's not that good (though it can benefit from Tempered Steel).

A cousin of Storm Crow jokes is Chimney Imp, who actually can be turned into a solid lock with Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker and a sac outlet. But the joke is that he "untaps for free", which (of course) nearly every creature does.
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1. Dark Confidant has been in top decks in modern everywhere and I don't get wats so good about him! Please tell me why!


Another relevant bit of info:  Most of the decks that run Dark Confidant also run the mythic swords.  So, in addition to more cards in hand, he also provides a body to cary a sword.  While yes, in general creatures are much easier to remove than enchantments, when said creature is carying a sword of light and shadow, much of the targeted removal available can no longer touch that creature.  This becomes even more relevant in games 2 and 3 when you can sideboard in specific swords (say sword of war and peace or sword of feast and famine).  At that point it's pretty much game over.
There are no tier 1 Modern decks that run swords.
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There are no tier 1 Modern decks that run swords.


Jund runs swords last I checked.
EDIT: ...and just re-checked a few lists and don't see any swords in modern.  In any event, you'll see the dude carying the jitte in legacy.  The point is the 2/1 body isn't irrelevant.
I don't think I've ever seen Jund with swords. Delver used to run swords sometimes, but it's fallen out of favour and didn't run Bob.
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Back a few months ago I saw a spirit jund deck that was running SoLS.  It won GP toronto.  I don't play competitively, so I can't comment on the popularity, but I saw the list a few times at various events.  Caught my eye because it seemed a little different than usual jund.  This may have been the list:


  • Creatures (16)

  • 4 Deathrite Shaman

  • 4 Dark Confidant

  • 4 Tarmogoyf

  • 4 Bloodbraid Elf

  • Planeswalkers (3)

  • 3 Liliana of the Veil

  • Spells (17)

  • 4 Lingering Souls

  • 4 Lightning Bolt

  • 2 Terminate

  • 1 Abrupt Decay

  • 3 Thoughtseize

  • 2 Inquisition of Kozilek

  • 1 Maelstrom Pulse

  • Lands (24)

  • 4 Blackcleave Cliffs

  • 4 Raging Ravine

  • 4 Verdant Catacombs

  • 4 Marsh Flats

  • 1 Overgrown Tomb

  • 2 Blood Crypt

  • 1 Godless Shrine

  • 1 Stomping Ground

  • 1 Plains

  • 1 Swamp

  • 1 Forest

  • Sideboard (15)

  • 2 Batterskull

  • 1 Phyrexian Metamorph

  • 1 Sword of Light and Shadow

  • 1 Maelstrom Pulse

  • 1 Abrupt Decay

  • 2 Olivia Voldaren

  • 3 Rakdos Charm

  • 2 Jund Charm

  • 2 Shatterstorm

Also, with dark condidant, if you dont want to loose more life, it is easy to kill yourself.