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Seeing the state of Magic as it is now and how it has been forever i have little interest in anything but pauper format. Its too much of "who spends more wins" and while i understand card price is fueled by demand, it does not solve the problem of the rares and more importantly the mythic rares.  How anyone can see this as anything but a cash grab on the part of wizards is delusional. Even at FNMs now i see many people with a whole deck of rares. I see the decks played and i see very little real strategy. And despite what some people think metagaming is NOT strategy ( it isnt, there IS a difference). Theres nothing creative about using a card like Armada worm A trained monkey can win with a tamiyo/jace architect control deck. ]Essentially these cards dumb down the game. end of story. No cunning, knowledge, or skill is needed to win in standard. just having the right(the most rare) cards guarantees victory. Argue my logic all you want, but what is obvious is obvious an no amount of spin on your part can change that. And if it is not obvious now, then i invite you to make the best deck you can with only commons and see of you win a single round. Wizards broke the game to make more money essentially which i completely understand because when you already have hundreds of millions of dollars, you obviously need more. I mean, come on. you cant live without a solid gold toilet seat can you?

So rather than subject myself to continuing anguish at the hands of people who dont really like the game of magic in and of itself, who rather just want to win at something to temporarily heal their deep seeded insecirities. I will stick to casual. because games should be fun, and not a contest for emotionally stunted people to buy a feeling of accomplishment without actually having to do something relevant to get it, I am simply giving standard the finger. Its the kind of contest where even if you win, you're still a loser because you spent $200 on a deck of cards.

So im going to try and start a pauper league. And if that fails, play pauper online. because magic with rares and mythics allowed is a ridculous "buy your way to victory" game. But eliminate the cash grab cards an magic is just fine and still fun to play. so im doing that until wizards stops being so greedy.

Maybe some sunny day wizards will stop being greedy and actually design a balanced game. But no one will notice because every one will be doging the airborne feces from the flying pigs.


I wonder how long it will take for this to get shut down and me get banned. My bet is less than five minutes. If it does happen, goodbye in advance. Im sure there are alot of nice people here.






Play red.  Burn spells and cheap creatures tend to be commons and uncommons.
Until you run into someone packing 4x Bonfire of the Damned, which, last I checked, were hovering between $30-50 apiece.
To whom it may concern: it's getting really old, being unable to see the top half of anything autocarded in the first post of each thread. Fixplz,kthx.
So you want cards to be cheaper and not at the rare/mythis slot, so people have less incentive to open packs, so they sell less packs, so they make less money, so they go out of business, so you don't have anybody making the game you like?

If this is FNM you can probably just thow together what you have along with some commons and uncommons and figure out a deck to play and do pretty well.  If you focus more on being a better player and deck builder then you can overcome needing the more expensive decks.

Personally I like it when there is only a few decks everyone is playing so then I can make something that they can't handle.
Until you run into someone packing 4x Bonfire of the Damned, which, last I checked, were hovering between $30-50 apiece.



$25. And that's using SCG which always has somewhat inflated prices.
Only $25 now? That sucks, because when I pulled the one and only copy I've ever owned it was $50.
To whom it may concern: it's getting really old, being unable to see the top half of anything autocarded in the first post of each thread. Fixplz,kthx.
Playing red as you put it, Eyeball Frog, Does not work and it is a common myth that it does. burn is usless in standard especially now, since there are no good cheap burn spells and anything good is a rare or mythic. and cheap creatures just get board wiped by rares and mythics like terminus or planar cleansing and so on.

My argument is that the game is either badly designed due to incompetence or is Well designed to favor those who spend more money.

The old addage "play a cheap speed deck" is comepletely false. they only win by luck. I want a game where strategy wins not luck. Winning by luck is what we have in standard right now.  

Standard is simply broken. The only way to rebalance the game i see without completely redesigning it would be to elimnate the rares, mythics, and unforunatley the uncommons as well from the game. without the cash grab broken fluff we are left with the core of magic which is still a good game in spite of wizard's seemingly deliberate campaign to destroy it.
It sounds like the entire genre of CCGs is not for you. Most other genres of games are games you buy "complete". While there is considerably more skill involved in playing Magic than you are inferring, it certainly does require you to spend enough to have the best cards. This is not a fault of the game, but inherent to the genre.

Also, I am somewhat peeved at the final comment in your post. People do not get banned, nor posts removed, for criticizing Magic.

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Only $25 now? That sucks, because when I pulled the one and only copy I've ever owned it was $50.


 
The 9 I've pulled have gone down that much in value?  Where do I complain to wizzards to stop printing them in that set and put them on the do not print list so others can't enjoy it to just so mine stays high in value?
Dear god, how much AVR have you opened?

OP: Wait for Gatecrash, there'll be good red 1-drops from Boros and Gruul.
Playing red as you put it, Eyeball Frog, Does not work and it is a common myth that it does. burn is usless in standard especially now, since there are no good cheap burn spells and anything good is a rare or mythic. and cheap creatures just get board wiped by rares and mythics like terminus or planar cleansing and so on.

My argument is that the game is either badly designed due to incompetence or is Well designed to favor those who spend more money.

The old addage "play a cheap speed deck" is comepletely false. they only win by luck. I want a game where strategy wins not luck. Winning by luck is what we have in standard right now.  

Standard is simply broken. The only way to rebalance the game i see without completely redesigning it would be to elimnate the rares, mythics, and unforunatley the uncommons as well from the game. without the cash grab broken fluff we are left with the core of magic which is still a good game in spite of wizard's seemingly deliberate campaign to destroy it.



It does work.  All decks win on a combination of luck, skill, and meta-game.  Maybe you are not skillful enough for an agro deck and thus you need to rely on the luck of drawing sweepers to get yourself out of trouble?
Just don't play standard. In addition to Pauper, you can draft, play EDH, casual (my favorite being 60 card singleton), budget (say 15$ or less) or any number of other formats which I can't remember right now. Drafting also helps you get the money cards if you decide to get back into standard.
Really? Complaining about the price point required to be competitive at standard FNMs? That's pretty low. If you can't compete with a $50 deck at FNM, one or more of the following is true:


  • You have too high of a bar for what 'well enough' is.

  • Your FNM happens to be particularly competitive.

  • Your deck is poorly designed.

  • You are not as good at Magic as you think you are.


Cheap, effective Aggro decks are a real, doable thing that stands a real chance at the FNM level if built properly. The same is true of control decks.

Expecting the best decks to be anything but expensive shows a misunderstanding of the fundamental nature of trading cards and economics. It's not 'whoever has the most expensive deck wins' it's 'whoever wins the most deck will find it become expensive'. There's nothing inherently better about expensive cards.

But you've obviously made your mind up that it's pay-to-win. So have fun doing whatever else.

Sidenote: As for common only, that might be a bit difficult. Uncommons are certainly a very helpful addition. With that in mind, here's a common/uncommon only build that should be fairly effective played properly:
 

It's not an incredible build, but I'm reasonably certain I could pilot it to a 2-3 at my local FNM if I wanted to. Similar things can be done with each guild, it's really just a matter of figuring out which one works best for you.

If you open yourself up to using cheap (<$1) rares as well, you'll find your options open siginificantly, giving you access to large numbers of different decks.

No, you won't win the entire event. In fact, you'll probably lose quite a few, but if you're a new player you'd be losing quite a few anyways.

If you're losing to expensive decks played with no skill it's because you're running your deck with no skill either or simply don't have a very good deck.

As a general rule, skill beats deck cost, especially in Standard. 
Immature College Student (Also a Rules Advisor)
I apologize if this double posts. but in response to pantera's mpost:

I dont give a hoot if wizards makes less money. I am stating facts. The game on its own is broken there is no real strategy. they have designed it so any deck can lose but only a few decks can win with any consistency. And 99% of those few that can win with any regularity are most up of mostly rares and mythics and hence cost obscene amounts of money, either buy buying packs until you get one a 1/25 chance for a mythic isnt it? sure you get a rare in every pack but how rare are these rares anyway? In this year i bought 2 m13 fat packs (about $80 american) and one half of a booster box (about $55) I found i got alot of the common rares that are in the intro packs like Krenko(i puled three) Odric (two) Yeva (two) and one Nefarox to seal the deal i only got one mythic and that was a planeswalker Jace. 

So shall i spent more than $133 on cards from one set? I spent at least $50 more on Return to Ravnica (which is a complete crap set BTW ) and have spent over $150 on my collection of Innistrad block. Exactly how much more should i spend on a hobby? I shouldn't be punished for not being irresponsible. spending nealy $300 a year on cards should be more than enough for one person.

The fact that you defend this company in the fashion you shows that you have not bothered to think critically as either a player or a customer.

I pay alot of money for these damned cards and i dont feel the need to buy a couple boster boxes every week, mainly because I'm not an idiot with money to burn.




 
I am stating facts.


You've stated things, but they certainly aren't all facts.

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I pay alot of money for these damned cards and i dont feel the need to buy a couple boster boxes every week, mainly because I'm not an idiot with money to burn.

No you don't.  At best you spend a mild amount of money compared other hobbies that you could have.  If you want a cheap, nearly free hobby, go find some friends with a soccer ball.  Even kids in third world dirt-hole countries can afford to kick a ball around all day for fun.

@mikemearls The office is basically empty this week, which opens up all sorts of possibilities for low shenanigans

@mikemearls In essence, all those arguments I lost are being unlost. Won, if you will. We're doing it MY way, baby.

@biotech66 aren't you the boss anyway? isn't "DO IT OR I FIRE YOU!" still an option?

@mikemearls I think Perkins would throat punch me if I ever tried that. And I'd give him a glowing quarterly review for it.

buy buying packs until you get one a 1/25 chance for a mythic isnt it? 


Its roughly 1 in 8, not 1 in 25.

Maybe you dont know as much about the subject as you think?

~ Tim

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56287226 wrote:
190106923 wrote:
Not bad. But what happens flavor wise when one kamahl kills the other one?
Zis iz a sign uf deep psychological troma, buried in zer subconscious mind. By keelink himzelf, Kamahl iz physically expressink hiz feelinks uf self-disgust ova hiz desire for hiz muzzer. [/GermanPsychologistVoice]
56957928 wrote:
57799958 wrote:
That makes no sense to me. If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed? ~ Tim
Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch. YAY COLOR IDENTITY
56287226 wrote:
56888618 wrote:
Is algebra really that difficult?
Survey says yes.
56883218 wrote:
57799958 wrote:
You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.
I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.
56287226 wrote:
56735468 wrote:
And no judge will ever give you a game loss for playing snow covered lands.
I now have a new goal in life. ;)
Wizards broke the game to make more money essentially which i completely understand because when you already have hundreds of millions of dollars, you obviously need more. I mean, come on. you cant live without a solid gold toilet seat can you?



Come on. It's a business. The wages of the designers and the developers aren't dependent on the cards they design. More people are playing and buying Magic than ever, so obviously they are doing something right.
Good luck with your pauper league!

I'm curious. What do you think the most expensive rare should be priced at and why? Is my willingness to pay more for a card than someone else a bad thing? Why does my willingness to pay more for a card make Wizards greedy?
"You wouldn't like me when I'm angry. I always back up my arguements with facts and documented sources." - The Credible Hulk
How hard do the employees of wizards laugh when a thread like this shows up?

3DH4LIF3

How hard do the employees of wizards laugh when a thread like this shows up?


They don't read these. Obviously they're too busy swimming in their diamond studded swimming pools while driving ferraris.

SIDE NOTE: If you want to see how much skill a top-tier deck really takes, talk to your friends who run such expensive decks and ask if you can borrow one for the night. Then see how well you actually do. You'll probably win more than you were, especially if your older deck was poorly built on top of being cheap, but I have serious doubts you'll win the whole thing. (WARNING: This method requires friends. As such I was unable to test it myself) 
Immature College Student (Also a Rules Advisor)
How hard do the employees of wizards laugh when a thread like this shows up?


They don't read these. Obviously they're too busy swimming in their diamond studded swimming pools while driving ferraris.



Wait, I thought they drove Lamborghinis that were also diamond studded.....
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If you wanted WotC to see this note of yours maybe you should have sent it to Customer Service (link at the bottom of the page, BTW).

Why did you post it here?

"Hey, all you guys who play this game! I'm not gonna play it!"

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How hard do the employees of wizards laugh when a thread like this shows up?


They don't read these. Obviously they're too busy swimming in their diamond studded swimming pools while driving ferraris.



Wait, I thought they drove Lamborghinis that were also diamond studded.....


 He was talking about the office employee, not MaRo, obviously.


Seriously, you guys spend some of your time answering to that? He hasn't even discovered the secondary market yet, says that RDW can't win, that everyone should be able to play any deck for 30$... It's obviouslt the same as every other thread ever, but without any argument behind it. If he's serious, he hasn't considered any solutions at all.

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56945988 wrote:
Rancor dies to in-response removal.
Yeah... Until next game, where it'll be right back. Seriously, there's no way to deal with Rancor in any format. It should be banned, except Gleemax is a lobbyist for the Rancor party, so that'll never happen.
You can't ban rancor, it just returns to your deck.
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57461258 wrote:
You might want to actually talk to the Flavor & Storyline Board people... since, you know, our whole reason for playing Magic is the flavor. I'm willing to bet you'll get a lot more interest there than in General.
Indeed, both posters down there would be thrilled.
57817638 wrote:
I think I wasn't direct enough in my last post. I'll try to fix it now. Ahem... NO ONE CARES there you have it.
57471038 wrote:
When talks about banning Jace first started, I was thinking that I would see him banned come June 20th. But as I think more about it, I don't really think that Jace is the problem anymore. Sure his power level leaves very little to the imagination (opening Jace is like opening a refrigerator box with a naked girl on the inside), and sure his price does have a strong impact on what players choose to play (playing Jace is like being intimate with a woman and she doesn't charge you in the morning), but it is not the source of all the problems in Standard.
76973988 wrote:
How do people think saving room to print more abilities on cards is dumbing down the game?

Do you really think, say, Akroma would ever be printed if she said, "Akroma can block by creatures with this ability and cannot be blocked by creatures without this ability.  If a creature without this ability would deal combat damage by Akroma would be destroyed, prevent all combat damage that creature would deal to Akroma this combat.  Attacking does not cause Akroma to tap.  If Akroma is blocked and deals lethal damage, it deals the remainder of its damage to the defending player.  Akroma may attack and use abilities that require tapping in the casting cost the turn it enters the battlefield.  Akroma cannot be damaged, enchanted, equipped, blocked or targeted by black or red sources" rather than her "dumbed down" wording she has?  No freaking way.  Keywording and shorthand allows them to make complicated cards easy to play with, allowing them to be printed in the first place.
57817638 wrote:
The creation of praetors was worth it just because now amoeboid changeling is a praetor.
57140668 wrote:
1. cast frankie peanuts2. ask opponent "will you concede the game this turn"? if they say yes, you win; if they say no, play a staying power
3. subsequently ask "will you attack this turn"? and "will you cast a spell this turn"? (using a Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir for the second question if necessary) to ensure they can't disrupt the combo
4. donate them a platinum angel
5. play a mox lotus and braingeyser them for every card in their library. play an opalescence and donate them a glorious anthem and a blacker lotus, then play enchanted evening. play and activate a mindslaver and then donate them a fastbond and the mox lotus (returning one of the donates to your hand with eternal witness or whatever)
6. during their turn, play every permanent in their hand (playing lands with fastbond) then (as yourself) cast mirrorweave on the blacker lotus, so every permanent becomes a copy of it. proceed to tear up every card they control, and hopefully do it before they notice that they aren't bound by staying power's ability anymore and can concede
82423538 wrote:
57471038 wrote:
82423538 wrote:
One part of the statement being true=/=the whole statement true.
Whatever. I'm still here about ten minutes away. Whenever you want to get destroyed in Magic, I'm available.
I would like to get destroyed in Magic, actually. Do you know anybody good enough?
57617478 wrote:
Please format your statements in a way that doesn't look like a baboon hit its face on your keyboard.
57140668 wrote:
why did Garruk Relentless lose a loyalty counter
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89522235 wrote:
You're such an obvious troll that you have hexproof and : Regenerate.
56957928 wrote:
56776038 wrote:
Dark Ritual being overpowered is determined more by what is done with it than the card itself.
True, but the fact that it enables so many ridiculous things is pretty telling. It's like, sure I can use a shotgun as a bludgeoning instrument, but that doesn't make it not a shotgun.
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Shortly before Serra died, she transferred her spark into an angel whose full name was Asha Avacyn Bolas. Her dragon father groomed her for her positions in Alara and Innistrad, and she's also been getting help from her uncle Ugin in the form of Urza, who was resurrected as Marit Lage to be the avatar as which she projects herself into material realms. Grieslbrand is a split personality who sometimes wanders the planes disguised as a human woman named Liliana Vess.
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Yeah that (Content Removed) really annoys me. Moderated by MY_self right about naahowwww!
93446159 wrote:
Dilleux_Lepaire just won the thread.
57461258 wrote:
And, as usual, Dilleux wins the entire thread. Nice work, sir, nice work.
99113151 wrote:
They need to make 9 layers of zones where cards go when they "die". Much like Hell.
56778328 wrote:
Wow, holy doggy poop, kids, obvious statement is obvious.
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122053101 wrote:
i don't think your geting it WotC is trying to kill the comption to make it so that there shity app is the only one left.
I haven't tried the app. How is its use of English grammar? Cheers!
57471038 wrote:
Everyone's life would be easier if players would, instead of coming to the 'net for help with a deck, just netdeck and be done with it. And I'm not talking about some Top 8 lists, for the Casualists, too, can benefit from netdecking. I've netdecked plenty of decks from the Casual Play forums from users such as Mown, Raedien, Floopfoot, and a few others. I snatched straight the heck out of my web browser. Yes, people, your original idea fell victim to a savage netdecker. You have been assimiliated. Suppose I wanted a Zombie deck. Why on earth would I spend time searching Gatherer for a decent list of Zombie cards when Raedien already did it for me? Taking time to be creative or waiting on people on the forums to tell you why your deck sucks or 'go to Casual forums' is a disasterous waste of time (to me).
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82423538 wrote:
If WotC started putting $100 bills in packs, the players would complain that they folded them wrong.
No, they just spam them with ban requests. That being said, Magic was ruined back in Alpha when they added all that rules and cards [Debutantes avert your eyes]. My friends and I still like playing it the "pure" way (Basically we go into the woods and hit eachother with wiffle bats while shouting made up obscenities. You know, the way Garfield wanted it to be played).
56957928 wrote:
Don't worry about it. I've come up with a list of changes to fix EDH. -First off, there's no commander. -The minimum deck size is 60 cards, and each deck can have up to four of each card, save basic lands and relentless rats. Also decks have no color identity. -Starting life total is 20. And voila, now things are balanced.
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Here's a clever play you can try yourself: -Convince friend to run relentless rats.dec in legacy tournament -Get a deck with lots of mill, yixlid jailer, and humility -Drop humility and jailer, wait for him to dump his hand, mill him out -All his rats now have no abilities. Call a judge because he's playing an illegal deck with more than 4 of a single card. -Get him/her banned from competitive magic play
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But how to mark them without making the individual sleeve different! You could buy a skunk and slam it's butt on you deck (pardon the french) Then after the game just sniff at your opponent's pile of cards and you will know if any of your cards are there!!!
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In Soviet Russia, Sorin opens You
71235715 wrote:
L, is for the leather gloves you weaaaar. O, is for the organs that guy could spaaaare. V, is very very, extraordinay. E, is for every vagrant i butchered in a wine cellar befooooore.
57052258 wrote:
The outer layer of the Magic: the Gathering box, the carton, or crust, is fairly thin and light, and contains largely aluminosilcates. Within that lies the middle layer, consisting of the familiar booster pack. Although solid, the booster packs' high temperatures allow them to acutally move around within the booster box. This flow, sometimes called convection, is cited by frustrated box mappers as one of WOTC's most genious uses of thermodynamics since the Ravnica block. No one knows what lies at the core of the booster box, but scientists theorize that it must be especially dense in order to make up for the large amount of fluff distributed amongst the booster packs.
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88993869 wrote:
Torpor Orb is absolutely godawful against Vexing Devil.
whoever is playing vexing devil is probably losing anyways
56957928 wrote:
I imagine [Ajani 3's] second ability involves him hurling the creature at your opponent Brion Stoutarm style, then the guy is just like "Okay, that may have worked, but don't- GOD DAMN IT!" as he does it again because cats don't give a **** :33.
56957928 wrote:
"Do or do not, there is no try." - Albus Dumbledore, The Lord of the Rings.
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68978039 wrote:
Its like that one time Elves broke out in a field of Jund. Elves became a resurgent hit, then died off again once Jund adapted to the rest of the field of G/W that it required mass removal that inherently pooped on Elves too. Submit to the menace. Delver can, and will blot out the sun.
Then we shall play in the shade.
89522235 wrote:
I'm sorry, this forum isn't for getting bad advice on mediocre decks, that's standard deck help. This forum is for starting ****storms.
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139359831 wrote:
Your advice would only lead me to make generic, boring, and unworthy content. It's of no use to me.
I just got this image of you as an architect, having finished a building suspended by only a small pole in its southwest corner, saying it's original. Then the building collapses.
56957928 wrote:
I for one love the flavor of legendary lands. "I remember my days as a youth at Tolarian Academy." "Wow, small multiverse, I actually went there too." "WAIT, DON'T- Well ****, there's $200,000 in student loans well spent."
56957928 wrote:
And flavor goes out the window when you cast a second copy of a planeswalker right after the first one dies, so... "Hey Nissa, I need a favor." "You just asked me for a 'favor' like thirty seconds ago, and it turned out to be having Sarkhan Transmogrify my only follower into a dragon like 5 times -which dickery aside also violates some laws of causality - and then you let me get beaten over the head by that hedron crab." "...I'll give you " "...Well all right then."
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GM, I don't think Dill is better than you. I KNOW it. Even if he wakes up every morning, clubs a baby seal, steals all the TV remotes from within a block's radius of his house and then robs hungry orphans of their food he'd be better than you, for the simple reason that he learns from his mistakes.
143211137 wrote:
57033358 wrote:
Tamiyo vs. Gideon
What would they have to fight about? Like, all I can think of now is Gideon going "Hey, long-ears! I'm gathering a group of 'Walkers together to fight some tentacle monsters.....you want in?" and Tamiyo going "Ew! Hentai no bakka Gideon-desu desu!" and flying away.
76783093 wrote:
I open 4 packs just to be on the safe side. Not only do I get more cards than everyone else, but I also get to spend the rest of the night off. Win Win.
191752181 wrote:
MaRo has a thing for people opening boosters with bad cards. But since he can only get so many bad cards printed in each set, he has found a devious way of getting more bad cards into circulation: He makes entire print sheets with just bad rares, then puts them onto the assembly line. He proceeds to wring his hands and twirl his evil mustache that he grew for twirling purposes as a lightning bolt strikes in the background. Afterwards, he goes to make sure that the good cards are only opened by everyone's friends, and that we all only get to open bad cards. He does this by memorising each booster, than switching them around accordingly. Whenever someone complains about a card, he immediately jumps out from behind a chair to yell "WELL, IT'S NOT FOR YOU!" before merging back into the shadows in order to devise new ways in which he can screw over players, then claim that he has valid reasons for doing so.
97820278 wrote:
192729031 wrote:
You open a booster pack, and staring back at you from the rare slot is a Lotleth Troll? At least I can stick him in my EDH deck and still have four for my standard constructed.
Because lol troll
56874518 wrote:
It helped that I more or less skipped most of GM_Champion's longer diatribes. I only have so many brain cells I'm willing to sacrifice each day.
192931349 wrote:
Mark Rosewater is sitting in a seemingly innocuous cable TV van, outside of Bankaimastery's house. Sitting nearby are two hardened criminal hackers, fresh out of prison, and filled with resentment at their lack of physical fitness. "Have you managed to hack his brainwaves yet? The set deadline's coming up fast." "We're almost through. It should be coming up on the screen any second." The hacker presses a button, and Kevin's thoughts flash onto the screen. Mark and the hackers stare in amazement at the sheer beauty, the elegance, and the raw truth of what they see. It's like the ending to 2001: A Space Odyssey. Brilliant light shines across the screen, the truth of existence is made clear to them, and they despair at their own foolishness, their own ignorance, their own inadequacy. And then they steal his ideas. As they return back to R&D, Mark sneers at a haggard old man chained to a cast-iron sphere. The man looks up from his laborious task of breaking rocks in the dungeon of Wizards of the Coast headquarters, and asks a question: "Kevin, my greatest student. He - he's all right, isn't he? You didn't hurt him?" Mark deals him a weighty blow with his boot. "Know your place, Richard. Get back to work."
57023768 wrote:
Now show me on the Garruk doll where Zac Hill ruined your enjoyment of Magic...
63711769 wrote:
I'm only opposed to it because it bears so little relation to how people actually play the game. The example of Miracles is actually a much better one then the Clone example I was trying to use. From the game's perspective, the card can move instantly from face down in the library to revealed in the hand and that's fine for the rules. But in real life, we can't actually do that, so the card spends a good bit of time in locations that are neither where that player's library is nor where that player's hand is. And that's fine for real life. What I don't want is the disconnect to be explicitly codified. Along the lines of
183664.697 A game of Magic as laid out by these rules exists only as a pure Platonic ideal, utterly unrealizable by fallible mortals limited by the confines of physicality and the ravages of evil and sin. 183664.698 The cake is a lie, too.
I know it's true, but I don't want the rules to actually straight-up tell me that.
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77120821 wrote:
Pfft this cant be serious can it? If it is please delete your account OP. Its not even close to ban worthy, considering what JTMS and stoneforge had to accomplish to get banned i see the WotC selling magic to aquire Pokemon before that ever happens.
I'm trying to imagine sorin markov as a gym leader in one of those pokemon games which you have to beat him to get his badge... somehow I imagine that he would stab you in the chest with his sword before giving you the badge, even if you beat his pokemon....
196239043 wrote:
Personally, I'd be fine with tea time but then I'm not gonna waste the mana summoning Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. He always takes all the sugar, drinks the whole pot of Earl Grey and doesn't even say thank you. SO. RUDE.

 

JustTerrorIt wrote:

 

JuliusPringle wrote:

All I want to do is sit down and play magic, but when I walked in yesterday, (since I didn't talk to anyone) nobody talked to me and I silently bought what I wanted and walked out.


If you don't talk to anyone, that increases the odds that no one will talk to you.

 

JuliusPringle wrote:

So how do I just... introduce myself? "Hi, my name is Adam, wanna play magic with me?" Do I go to the counter and talk to the cashier?


Yeah. Talk to the cashier. Tell him/her that you want a Black Lotus, and if they don't have one tell them that the store isn't on par with what you expected.

 

Reach into your back left pocket. Pull out a deck list that you copied directly from some ChannelFireball top 8 Standard discussion, and ask for all the cards, as is, on that list. Then, ask for some random, probably terrible cards from whatever set is Standard legal. Say it's tech for the upcoming changes in the metagame.

 

Pull out a deck, and tell some random dude you wanna test (you have to use the term "test" for this to work) for Standard. Make sure that deck contains Kitchen Finks and Alluring Siren. Maybe throw in Nyxathid for good measure.

 

Finally, before you leave, spill (make it look like an accident) one hundred singleton, random cards onto the floor. Pick them up, put them in a pile, and say "EEE-DEE-AYCH".

 

I know this sounds dumb at first, but it will work. With the method outlined above, you will draw the attention of players that play older formats by asking for cards that no one on Earth can reasonably afford. You will get the attention of the wanna-be pro, Stomp-n00bz players by pulling out a well known decklist and declare that you have "tech" to make it better. You will get the attention of all the kind, helpful players by seemingly not knowing the most common format by having non-Standard legal cards in a deck that you claim is Standard legal. Finally, you catch all the rest of the Magic players by saying "EEE-DEE-AYCH" (EDH (or Commander)).

And there you have it. You will be talking to more people than you would have wanted to talk to in no time.

 

Smoke_Stack wrote:

EDH is the best format anyway


See, it's starting already.

 

Break the Card
What is Break the Card?
Break the Card is a regular thread in the Cards and Combo Forum. Quite simply, the participants are given a Johnnystatic card (e.g. Xenograft) and are asked to build a deck around it. The winner and honorable mentions are sigged below. Get brewing!
Week 1 : Xenograft
This week's Break the Card was based around Xenograft. Thread : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27681049/Break_the_card_:_Xenograft?pg=1 Winner : Axterix with his Vampdrazi deck. Finalist : Vektor480 with his Ally/Golem/Plant deck. Honorable mentions : Zammm for the Turntimber Ranger combo and TinGorilla for suggesting Sarkhan the Mad.
Week 2 : Mindlock Orb
Here's the link to the Mindlock Orb contest : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27697565/Break_the_Card_:_Mindlock_Orb?sdb=1&pg=last#497536269 Winner : Axterix with his Maralen of the Mornsong deck. Honorable mentions : Void_Elemental.
Week 3 : Bludgeon Brawl
Here's the link to Break the Card : Bludgeon Brawl : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27715169/Break_the_Card_:_Bludgeon_Brawl?sdb=1&pg=last#498208797 Winner : Vektor and his Grab the World deck. Finalist : Crandor with his Awesome Aliteration deck. Honorable mentions : RP Jesus with his Wat deck and Zix200 with his Signet Renewal deck.
Week 4 : Followed Footsteps
This week was Followed Footsteps : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27748677/Break_the_Card_:_Followed_Footsteps?pg=1 Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Exponential Growth deck. Honorable mentions : Zix with his Carbon Copies deck and Escef with his Fungus of Speed and Time deck.
Week 5 : Delaying Shield
This week's card was Delaying Shield : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27790101/Break_the_Card_:_Delaying_Shield Winner : Tevish_Szat. Finalist : Vampire_Bat. Honorable Mention : Zix200.
Week 6 : Painter's Servant
This week's card was Painter's Servant : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27940861/Break_the_Card_:_Painters_Servant?pg=1 Winner : Tevish_Szat with his Paint it Black deck. Finalist : Wprundv with his Tiger, Tiger Painted Bright deck.
Week 7 : Venser, the Sojourner
This week's card was Venser, the Sojourner : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/27977489/Break_the_Card_:_Venser,_the_Sojourner Winner : Izzett with her "Venser, Trickster Trader" deck. Finalist : Wprundv with his "Tactical Sojourner Action" deck.
Week 8 : Personal Sanctuary
This week's card was Personal Sanctuary : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28005461/Break_the_card_:_Personal_Sanctuary Winner : MrQuizzles. Honorable mention : Vampire_Bat and UbberSheep
Week 9 : Sundial of the Infinite
This week's card was Sundial of the Infinite : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28038277/Break_the_card_:_Sundial_of_the_Infinite Finalist : Izzett with her "Afterlife Trespassers" deck. Winner : Xeromus with his "Fortune 500" deck.
Week 10 : Jace's Archivist
This week's card was Jace's Archivist : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/28063377/Break_the_Card_:_Jaces_Archivist. Finalists : Jentaru with his "Consecration of the Draw" deck and HereticSmitty with his "ADHD: The deck" deck. Winner : JaxsonBateman with his "The Archives Are Endless!" deck.
Week 11 : Search the City
This week's card was Search the City : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29518555/Break_the_Card_:_Search_the_City Finalist : Mown with "A Thousand Footsteps". Winner : Desolation_masticore with "Burn the City".
Week 12 : Fiend Hunter
This week's card was Fiend Hunter : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29530975/Break_the_Card_:_Fiend_Hunter Winner : Yuyu63 with "Carnival Hunting". Honorable mention : Dknowle's "Champion the Fiend".
Week 13 : Clock of Omens
This week's card was Clock of Omens : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29541549/Break_the_Card_:_Clock_of_Omens?pg=1 Winner : Dknowle's "The Myrs Go Marching".
Week 14 : Light of Sanction
This week's card was Light of Sanction : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29607219/Break_the_Card_:_Light_of_Sanction?pg=1 Winner : Zauzich's "Divine Plague".
Week 15 : Assemble the Legion
This week's card was Assemble the Legion : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29662307/Break_the_Card_:_Assemble_the_Legion Winner : JBTM's "Some Assembly Required".
Week 16 : High Tide
This week's cards were High Tide and/or Bubbling Muck : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29760427/Break_the_Card_:_High_Tide Winner : Mown's "Puppet Strings".
Week 17 : Illusionist's Bracers
This week's card was Illusionist's Bracers : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29776943/Break_the_Card_:_Illusionistss_Bracers Winner : Enigma256's "Tezzeret's Bracers"
Week 18 : Savor the Moment
This week's card was Savor the Moment : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29787235/Break_the_Card_:_Savor_the_Moment Winner : POSValkir's "A Savory Filibuster!"
Week 19 : Grinning Ignus
This week's card was Grinning Ignus : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29795547/Break_the_Card_:_Grinning_Ignus Winner : dknowle's "Luren' and Laughin'".
Week 20 : Transcendence
This week's card was Transcendence : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29806481/Break_the_Card_:_Transcendence Winners : Mown's "Transcending Timing Restrictions" and Dknowle's "Blinded by Greed", tied for the win.
Week 21 : Mortus Strider
This week's card was Mortus Strider : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29818471/Break_the_Card_:_Mortus_Strider Winner : SimonGlume's "Mortus Head".
Week 22 : High Priest of Penance
This week's card was High Priest of Penance : http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29917231/Break_the_Card_High_Priest_of_Penance Winners : JBTM's "Two Clerics and a Goblin walk into a (Bom)bar(dment)..." and POSValkir1's "Choke Their Rivers with Our Dead!".
Week 23 : False Cure
This week's card was False Cure :http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75842/29964239/Break_the_Card_:_False_Cure Winner : Dknowle's "When Hippos Fly".

Week 24 : Akroan Horse

This week's card was Akroan Horse : http://community.wizards.com/forum/cards-and-combos/threads/4024821.

Winner : Dknowle's "Indian Giver".

Week 25 : Leylines

This week saw multiple cards being in the contest : all of the Leylines! http://community.wizards.com/forum/cards-and-combos/threads/4067621

Winner : POSValkir1's "Laying the Battle Lines".

TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOL full of fail... in no particular order

1- RDW cant win
2- Secondary market is wizard's fault
3- Not aware of secondary market and buying booster boxes... yet being aware of #2
4- Remove all but commons... serioulsy?

If rares/mythics are so much better than commons, I'd like you to make a deck that's all about a bunch of the cards on the first page of this link : gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Defaul...[R]|[M]&format=|[%22Standard%22]

For your info, those are all rares and mythics from standard, they are deemed the worst of standard. Enjoy yourself, I'm sure that anyone with some wit can make a deck full of commons with a few uncommons and beat anything you can come up with. Hell that blue/white deck that was posted earlier in this post would probably beat anything you can come up with.

Bah the link doesnt work... because of the [] inside the link
I love trolls Dont hate me because I'm blunt and you cannot handle it
If you wanted WotC to see this note of yours maybe you should have sent it to Customer Service (link at the bottom of the page, BTW).

Why did you post it here?

"Hey, all you guys who play this game! I'm not gonna play it!"

"Umm... Ok, dude."



sigging this.

Woot! Go RED! I love red! Red is awesome! Did I mention I love red?
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56778328 wrote:
Why did you post it here? "Hey, all you guys who play this game! I'm not gonna play it!" "Umm... Ok, dude."
How hard do the employees of wizards laugh when a thread like this shows up?


They don't read these. Obviously they're too busy swimming in their diamond studded swimming pools while driving ferraris.



Wait, I thought they drove Lamborghinis that were also diamond studded.....



Depends on the day of the week.
Seriously, you guys spend some of your time answering to that?


Look, I'm already wasting time trawling through these forums. It should be fairly obvious that I'm just desperately attempting to find any way to pass the time. Answering such a ridiculous post as this obviously is just a further way to cast some of my finite remaining time on this Earth into the meaningless void. 
Immature College Student (Also a Rules Advisor)
And besides, we all know threads like this exist for one reason only, and that's to pad one's post count. Innocent
I don't see post counts on my mobile devices. Funny.

3DH4LIF3

Seeing the state of Magic as it is now and how it has been forever i have little interest in anything but pauper format. Its too much of "who spends more wins" and while i understand card price is fueled by demand, it does not solve the problem of the rares and more importantly the mythic rares.  How anyone can see this as anything but a cash grab on the part of wizards is delusional. Even at FNMs now i see many people with a whole deck of rares. I see the decks played and i see very little real strategy. And despite what some people think metagaming is NOT strategy ( it isnt, there IS a difference). Theres nothing creative about using a card like Armada worm A trained monkey can win with a tamiyo/jace architect control deck. ]Essentially these cards dumb down the game. end of story. No cunning, knowledge, or skill is needed to win in standard. just having the right(the most rare) cards guarantees victory. Argue my logic all you want, but what is obvious is obvious an no amount of spin on your part can change that. And if it is not obvious now, then i invite you to make the best deck you can with only commons and see of you win a single round. Wizards broke the game to make more money essentially which i completely understand because when you already have hundreds of millions of dollars, you obviously need more. I mean, come on. you cant live without a solid gold toilet seat can you?

So rather than subject myself to continuing anguish at the hands of people who dont really like the game of magic in and of itself, who rather just want to win at something to temporarily heal their deep seeded insecirities. I will stick to casual. because games should be fun, and not a contest for emotionally stunted people to buy a feeling of accomplishment without actually having to do something relevant to get it, I am simply giving standard the finger. Its the kind of contest where even if you win, you're still a loser because you spent $200 on a deck of cards.

So im going to try and start a pauper league. And if that fails, play pauper online. because magic with rares and mythics allowed is a ridculous "buy your way to victory" game. But eliminate the cash grab cards an magic is just fine and still fun to play. so im doing that until wizards stops being so greedy.

Maybe some sunny day wizards will stop being greedy and actually design a balanced game. But no one will notice because every one will be doging the airborne feces from the flying pigs.


I wonder how long it will take for this to get shut down and me get banned. My bet is less than five minutes. If it does happen, goodbye in advance. Im sure there are alot of nice people here.










I sympathize with you. During the first few years I played magic I felt much like you do. However, Jacob Van Lunen was given the deckbuilding article building on a budget. He crafted some really nice decks and even competed with some of them to high success rates. While I think that in the current metagame a budget deck would do pretty poorly on the pro tour that doesn't mean that you can't find a good budget list for FNM.

The real issue is that it's difficult to gain the skill necessary to craft a budget decklist while playing on a budget. If you've got little/no experience playing with/against the most powerful cards it will be difficult to craft a decklist that would combat them. There are other options besides pauper:

1.) limited - a skill testing environment that has no concern to your budget (if you can pay the 15 dollar per draft entry fee).
2.) modern - one good modern deck can last for a long time. For example jund, with some tweaks has been good for years. Upkeep on the deck might average 15-25 dollars per set which is fairly budget.
3.) duels of the planeswalkers - budget doesn't matter much there

Anyway I think a pauper league is a great idea and I wish you the best of luck. What some people who are posting haven't acknowledged is that you might create a pauper league and have a great time playing the game that you love.

I personally don't like the recent trend in which they print a more powerful rare or mythic rare version of staples which have in the past been common or uncommon or rare. For instance oblivion ring becomes detention sphere, and blaze becomes demonfire, and troll ascetic becomes thrun, the last troll, and terminate becomes dreadbore, and the list goes on. Let's just take every card and make a more powerful rarer version of it is not what I like to see coming from design/development.
Don't be too smart to have fun
Play sealed, or play drafts.  There you go.  Cracking the best cards does not guarantee you a victory, you still have to build a playable deck in a short period of time, and then play the first time with it in a tournament.  If money is an issue and you don't want to spend 1000 dollars on a competetive deck for huge tournaments or 200 dollars on small ones, then don't play standard, just draft.

You are Red/Blue!

I agree with several of the posts here.  There are a lot of cheap or relatively cheap rares/mythics I like, but I don't like buying them when they are in standard as the price is inflated.  That's why I wait for them to rotate out (unless I only want 1) and buy them for casual and compete in draft tournaments   If people want to spend $500 on a new deck every year for Standard, they can go for it.
I personally don't like the recent trend in which they print a more powerful rare or mythic rare version of staples which have in the past been common or uncommon or rare. For instance oblivion ring becomes detention sphere, and blaze becomes demonfire, and troll ascetic becomes thrun, the last troll, and terminate becomes dreadbore, and the list goes on. Let's just take every card and make a more powerful rarer version of it is not what I like to see coming from design/development.


Out of these, the only one that comes close to being an issue is Thrun. ObRing->DetSphere isn't that big of a difference and requiring the second color isn't trivial. Sure, DetSphere is probably a slightly better card, but it's not that big. Blaze is far from a top-tier card in the first place, so bumping it isn't exactly a surprise. Heck, Fireball obsoletes Blaze and it was in Alpha. As for Terminate->Dreadbore, going from instant to sorcery is a big deal. Honestly, in formats where I can, I'd much rather run Terminate.

There are definitely times when rare seems like just common/uncommon+, but it's really a straight obsoletion. 
Immature College Student (Also a Rules Advisor)
1) OP claims Standard is all about who has the most money and that there is no inherent fun in the FNM tournament setting.
2) OP finds resolution in the Pauper format, yet insists on ranting about the format he doesn't want to play, implying the opposite.
3) OP claims the competitive tournament crowd to be money hoarding players with no skill and no sense of fun.
4) Put this all together, and it sounds like the OP wants to be one of the money hoarding players with no skill and no sense of fun, but simply hasn't what the OP sees as "the funds to do so."

hmmm... 
I use what I have and try to trade for things I want. Would I like Snapcasters for my [C]Tunnel Vision[/C] deck? Yes I would, but I can't afford them, so I make use of other cards. I believe it is possible to enjoy the game without spending a lot. Couple of weeks ago I took 1st in FNM with [C]Stuffy Doll[/C] . Total of 10 dollars on the deck with some trades.

The Pauper league would be fun and different though.
Draft. I don't play Standard anymore (I can't keep up with buying the sets and then watching them rotate out); I draft every week instead. Sometimes you get mostly garbage and are forced to patch it together to beat that kid with the Armada Wurm, and sometimes you're the guy with the bomb. It's fun!
I'm sorry, but WOTC is a for-profit corporation, making money is kind of their business.

Why does everyone think I'm phantom lancer? QFT:

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139359831 wrote:
I hope all this helps you to see things in a greater light—and understand that Magic: the Gathering was really created by extraterrestials using Richard Garfield as a medium. The game itself reflects the socio-psycho realtivity between living beings, and the science that takes precedence over them—to define reality for them all (like telekinesis, weather, scientific reaction, phenomenon, ingenuity, how the brain works, etc.). I'd also bet there is an entity floating thousands of miles above us, looking down on the current state of game, shaking its fist like... "Wtf are you doing?! You're getting it all screwed up!". Awkward—to be evolved, and yet still subject to the ladder that is the concepts of the game. In this case, misconception, corruption, and deception. With the realities of each color becoming distorted (through oblivious designers), leading the game to reflect a false state of reality that warps the understanding that other people have about those things. For example, people thinking that white could be anything except pure good. This shouldn't be too far off though, I mean...Magic is designed based on reality after all, so that entity (those entities) should be subject to those things. Anyways, I guess when you're busy doing space stuff you can't always be around to ensure quality control. It's no wonder they choose Garfield, they're so much alike; that's exactly what happened to him and Magic.
166199665 wrote:
omg snortng so much febbdelicious /intocixated in rl
Pauper is lots of fun, and does level the playing field to an extent (not every common is £0.10/$0.10 however). There will still be players who can afford to attend more tournaments, build more decks, get the best cards, have more options, etc though.

Even draft doesnt remove this factor entirely. Rich players can afford to draft much more frequently (meaning they get more practice), and can afford to pass expensive cards that they dont need for the deck they are building (so they can have better decks). They can afford to subscribe to websites that give them advice, or buy books about drafting, and might even be able to afford to pay pro drafters to coach them.

Thats pretty much the same everywhere in life, isnt it?

~ Tim

I am Blue/White Reached DCI Rating 1800 on 28/10/11. :D
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56287226 wrote:
190106923 wrote:
Not bad. But what happens flavor wise when one kamahl kills the other one?
Zis iz a sign uf deep psychological troma, buried in zer subconscious mind. By keelink himzelf, Kamahl iz physically expressink hiz feelinks uf self-disgust ova hiz desire for hiz muzzer. [/GermanPsychologistVoice]
56957928 wrote:
57799958 wrote:
That makes no sense to me. If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed? ~ Tim
Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch. YAY COLOR IDENTITY
56287226 wrote:
56888618 wrote:
Is algebra really that difficult?
Survey says yes.
56883218 wrote:
57799958 wrote:
You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.
I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.
56287226 wrote:
56735468 wrote:
And no judge will ever give you a game loss for playing snow covered lands.
I now have a new goal in life. ;)
I don't mean to be rude, but there's no need to make a long ranting post, just go and do whatever you want. Nobody here will know the difference and Wizards will not miss your cheap-ass dollars.
crafting a deck takes skill, piloting is much less skill dependable. (unless making no mistakes and catching opponent messing up his triggers etc counts as skill, anyway)

I can get frustrated at how much the size of your pockets decides your win chance (until you get to a certain point of $$) buut id never stoop to suggesting that playing cards that lack power is somehow more skillful or skill dependant than playing powerful cards.