"High Precision" Gaming Dice?

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Has anyone ever used "high precision" gaming dice? And are they really any better than "normal" dice?

www.thinkgeek.com/product/eb26/

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Gah! I wouldn't let anyone use them at my table. Table rule - if I (the GM) can't see the roll, it didn't happen (it's mostly a spot-check thing). And no way would I be able to see the number from across the table.

But other than that, they look cool, and isn't that what's important when you're rolling? I'd have to buy like 10 sets, though, so I could have all of my dice match. Would be better to just buy the ones you want.
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Dice that match? If you buy a set, don't they already match?
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I got some game science dice.  I like them they have sharp corners.  So you deal bonus damage when steping on the d4's.

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Dice that match? If you buy a set, don't they already match?


I mean for when you're rolling multiples of certain dice (3d6, 10d12, etc). I would want them all to match. That set only comes with one of each.
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Gah! I wouldn't let anyone use them at my table. Table rule - if I (the GM) can't see the roll, it didn't happen (it's mostly a spot-check thing). And no way would I be able to see the number from across the table.



Then have the player make the roll in front of you, and have another player observe the roll.
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Dice that match? If you buy a set, don't they already match?


I mean for when you're rolling multiples of certain dice (3d6, 10d12, etc). I would want them all to match. That set only comes with one of each.


Why would you want all your dice to match? It's much more convenient to have several different colors/styles. That way you can roll a fistfull at once and know which ones apply to which monster/check/whatever.

Meh. Different strokes I guess. 
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Why would you want all your dice to match? It's much more convenient to have several different colors/styles. That way you can roll a fistfull at once and know which ones apply to which monster/check/whatever.

Meh. Different strokes I guess. 


I was thinking the same. Especially if it's something like a double weapon attack when each one can miss; then I'd be glad to have red d20 and d10 with blue d20 and d8.

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Why would you want all your dice to match? It's much more convenient to have several different colors/styles. That way you can roll a fistfull at once and know which ones apply to which monster/check/whatever.

Meh. Different strokes I guess. 


I was thinking the same. Especially if it's something like a double weapon attack when each one can miss; then I'd be glad to have red d20 and d10 with blue d20 and d8.


Then, I'd want separate ones to roll with whatever. What I'm saying is I like having the dice for attacks/damage to match. If I'm rolling a double weapon, I'd match the d20s with the corresponding damage (as in your example). If I'm rolling a 12d6 fireball, I'd like to have all the dice match. Same thing with, say, elemental damage on a weapon.

I have sets for specific characters, with dice to cover their max spell/weapon damage, etc.

So, I'd have to buy multiples of the sets to achieve that. I could never get away with just one set of those dice that come in the little plastic cubes, unless it was some low-level game and I had time to "build" the dice up.

... Yeah, I have too many dice.
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... Yeah, I have too many dice.

Is that even possible?

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... Yeah, I have too many dice.

Is that even possible?


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Well, I ended up buying them for him anyways. XD
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Hope he likes them!

And we expect a full report on their "fairness" of rolling, complete with charts, graphs, and spreadsheets.
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I think they would be great for displaying somewhere, but as far as actual playing, personally I'd go with something cheap and pracical - either that, or loaded dice
I don't always roll dice but when I do, I prefer Dwarven Stones.
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I don't always roll dice but when I do, I prefer Dwarven Stones.

Those are some ugly dice.

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My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
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Gurl, you cray-cray.

That is a distinct possibility, but the dice are still ugly and you have no taste. 

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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
I can't take you seriously.  You admit you may be cray-cray ... and a girl.
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I can't take you seriously.  You admit you may be cray-cray ... and a girl.


I might also be a 13 year old FBI agent. You still have terrible taste in dice. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me how great vodka & cranberry is.
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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
I can't take you seriously.  You admit you may be cray-cray ... and a girl.


I might also be a 13 year old FBI agent. You still have terrible taste in dice. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me how great vodka & cranberry is.


I was totally with you, up until this.

I kinda like the jade ones, and the tiger's eye would look cool with different paint (and IRL - tiger's eye is hard to photograph).

But yeah, they're mostly ugly.
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I might also be a 13 year old FBI agent. You still have terrible taste in dice. Next thing you know, you'll be telling me how great vodka & cranberry is.



Hey!  That's over the line, ace.  Have you ever had a pair of Dwarven Stones in your hand?  Lemme tell ya somethin': the cool, heavy weight is a real thrill compared to the typically light, plastic, soulless feel of your standard dice.  Try it, you'll love it.
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I was totally with you, up until this.

I kinda like the jade ones, and the tiger's eye would look cool with different paint (and IRL - tiger's eye is hard to photograph).

But yeah, they're mostly ugly.



Gurl, you cray-cray. 

Srsly, though, the pics are pretty terrible.  I have a green jade and a blue jasper set and they both look a lot better than the pics.  More color.  So, uhh, yeah.
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No. 
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Look up the Gamescience dice on youtube.  There's a few videos to watch, in which they explain how most dice (including Chessex dice) are made.

What it boils down to is this:  There really are "lucky" dice, because of imperfections in the dice (air pockets, some corners softer than others) that make an individual die more likely to turn up some numbers than others.

The game science, and other "precision" dice try to be like casino dice, and give an honest-to-Pelor even chance of producing every number on the die.

That's it.  Me?  I'll keep my "lucky" dice, and the sets that look great. 
Look up the Gamescience dice on youtube.  There's a few videos to watch, in which they explain how most dice (including Chessex dice) are made.

What it boils down to is this:  There really are "lucky" dice, because of imperfections in the dice (air pockets, some corners softer than others) that make an individual die more likely to turn up some numbers than others.

You could always say you're lucky you got a die with an "imperfection" that is beneficial.
The game science, and other "precision" dice try to be like casino dice, and give an honest-to-Pelor even chance of producing every number on the die.

That's it.  Me?  I'll keep my "lucky" dice, and the sets that look great. 

Yup, exactly, so would I. Why would I want to get dice that look meh, and on top of that, they don't roll as well a my luckily-imperferct dice, right?

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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
Hey!  That's over the line, ace.  Have you ever had a pair of Dwarven Stones in your hand?  Lemme tell ya somethin': the cool, heavy weight is a real thrill compared to the typically light, plastic, soulless feel of your standard dice.  Try it, you'll love it.

I would imagine paying a dwarf to hold his stones feels better than the toy ones you buy at your local toy shop. By the way, they pefer the term "little-people" from what I've heard.

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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
No they don't. 
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[b]If you're terribly afraid of your character dying, it may be best if you roleplayed something other than an adventurer.[/b]

I guess it depends on how much you pay them, right?
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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
I guess it depends on how much you pay them, right?


Well, that's just truth.
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I guess it depends on how much you pay them, right?



Everyone has a price.
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...which reminds me.
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Has anyone ever used "high precision" gaming dice? And are they really any better than "normal" dice?

www.thinkgeek.com/product/eb26/

I'm trying to figure out what to get my Dungeon-Master-boyfriend for Christmas, and ThinkGeek has free shipping right now, so I might want to take advantage of that.

This is a site that sells the same dice and has more of a selection. I kinda wish I had seen your post sooner.
www.frpgames.com/cart.php?div=3