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Is it just me, or are Rancor and Silverblade Paladin the most OP cards of all time?

Seriously, coming back from a turn two Rancor is just an endless uphill battle, there's no argument there, just "Rancor...oh yeah, auto-include!"  How did this even make the final cut, one fing mana, absurd.

Silverblade you at least have a small chance against, especially since you have abrupt decay.  still, as soon as it hits the board your opponent has two options:  "Ok, I kill it and hope he doesnt have another."  or  "all my creatures die to his two mana 2 power creature, YEAH!"

How do these aut-include cards make it past R&D.  I read their articles were they whine about "Firemind's Foresight" made the game no fun because after it was played the game was over.  Now the card CAN be good, but is way too expensive to be useful in tourney play,  And yet, a one mana and three mana BOMB are ok to push ahead.

What happened to this game being about people who could see the value of cards and make solid decks.  Every other card these days is "oh yeah, that's 8 recurring damage for 3 mana, that goes in!"  The game no longer needs intelligence to play, just an internet connection and/or the ability to count to three.
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You can destroy, exile, take control, bounce, sacrifice Silverblade Paladin. You can counter or exile Rancor, or remove it from the graveyard. You can do all of the above to the creature which Rancor targets (when It's still a spell) and it will not return to its owners hand. Yes, they are strong cards, but there's a reason they are expensive and rare (well rancor is uncommon, but still). I think you need to revise your deck and tactics a little if those 2 cards are giving you problems.

There are common creatures (Blighted Agent) which are more OP than your examples. But ofcourse this is more of an opinion than anything and it also heavely depends on the deck the cards are used in
Rancor is far from the most op card.

                                                                                                                                                                                        <----- Loser.

Is it just me, or are Rancor and Silverblade Paladin the most OP cards of all time?


I'm guessing you have never heard of the Power 9.

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As Escef already nention the Power 9, I 'll list some other cards that are significantly more powerful;

Yawgmoth's Bargain
Yawgmoth's Will
Necropotence
Sol Ring
Scroll Rack
Demonic Tutor
Vampiric Tutor
Entomb

I could go on for a few pages but I'm sure you get the point.  
 
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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Lands: Cathedral of Serra,...



Knew you couldn't do it without screwing it up.

Serra's Sanctum.

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Attacking the darkness since 1987, turning creatures sideways since 1994.

Rancor is far from the most op card.



It's not even the most OP card in the Urza block. Let's go by color, shall we?

: Replenish, Opalescence, Academy Rector
: Palinchron, Time Spiral, Peregrine Drake, Cloud of Faeries
: Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Exhume, Phyrexian Plaguelord
: Goblin Welder
: Argothian Elder, Elvish Piper, Greater Good
Artifacts: Masticore, Memory Jar
Lands: Cathedral of Serra, Tolarian Academy, Gaea's Cradle



I know eh! I was going to list out pretty much everything yu just did, but my daughter just woke up when I was writting the post.

oh urza's block was fun. 

                                                                                                                                                                                        <----- Loser.

Lands: Cathedral of Serra,...



Knew you couldn't do it without screwing it up.

Serra's Sanctum.



I always get those mixed up. Even though one's useless and one's insane in an enchantress deck.
139359831 wrote:
Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
---- Autocard is your friend. Lightning Bolt = Lightning Bolt
Yeah, I shouldn't have started off with "all time."  That was definitely the drunk rant part of the post.  Good thing I re-read it before I posted "I was talking about Standard guys, get it together."

Lol,  I know there are ways to deal with them, but Rancor especially is insane.  It provides so much card advantage if it resolves.  Even if it doesnt resolve its a downright bargain.  Almost anything that permenantly stops it costs more and would be put to better use on a more specific threat.  I guess why I think its OP is for that reason: Its like cancer while Overrun is like a nuke.

I guess you're right, at the end of the day its because I'm not very good yet and am getting annoyed that every single player I've played uses a copy of one of the pro-tour decks.  I think out of my last 20 matches, one person besides myself had a unique deck.  So while I am trying to find unique combos and learn the value of cards through discovery, everyone else cashes out, buys a known winner and heads off to hit the easy button.
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You need some graveyard hate. Lots of them are standard legal, adjust.
Yeah, I shouldn't have started off with "all time."  That was definitely the drunk rant part of the post.  Good thing I re-read it before I posted "I was talking about Standard guys, get it together."


Even still. Wait, Snapcatter Mage is still in standard isn't he?
 

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58280208 wrote:
Everything is better when you read it in Bane's voice.
192334281 wrote:
Your human antics and desire to continue living have moved me. Just kidding. You cannot move me physically or emotionally. Wall humor.
57092228 wrote:
Copy effects work like a photocopy machine: you get a copy of the 'naked' card, NOT of what's on it.
56995928 wrote:
Funny story: InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game. I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul: Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?" Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy." Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb." Me: "*Sigh*. Okay." I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board. Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious.
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no, see i can kill defenders, but 8 consecutive crits on a battlemind, eh walk it off.
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195392035 wrote:
Hi guys! So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic. I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked. Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon. Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in. Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play. I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's. However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks. I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real. I want to begin playing it as a regular. My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck? Or are there special rules? Are some cards forbidden or restricted? Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol.
I have the same problem with women.
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198869283 wrote:
Oh I have a standing rule. If someone plays a Planeswalker I concede the game. I refuse to play with or against people who play Planeswalkers. They really did ruin the game.
A turn two Tibalt win?! Wicked... Betcha don't see that everyday.

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57461258 wrote:
And that's why you should never, ever call RP Jesus on being a troll, because then everyone else playing along gets outed, too, and the thread goes back to being boring.
57461258 wrote:
See, this is why RPJesus should be in charge of the storyline. The novel line would never have been cancelled if he had been running the show. Specifically the Slobad and Geth's Head talkshow he just described.
57461258 wrote:
Not only was that an obligatory joke, it was an on-topic post that still managed to be off-topic due to thread derailment. RP Jesus does it again folks.
92481331 wrote:
I think I'm gonna' start praying to Jesus... That's right, RPJesus, I'm gonna' be praying to you, right now. O' Jesus Please continue to make my time here on the forums fun and cause me to chuckle. Amen.
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56957928 wrote:
It was wonderful. Us Johnnies had a field day. That Timmy with the Grizzly bears would actually have to think about swinging into your Mogg Fanatic, giving you time to set up your silly combo. Nowadays it's all DERPSWING! with thier blue jeans and their MP3 players and their EM EM OH AR PEE JEES and their "Dewmocracy" and their children's card games and their Jersey Shores and their Tattooed Tenaged Vampire Hunters from Beverly Hills
Seriously, that was amazing. I laughed my *ss off. Made my day, and I just woke up.
[quote=ArtVenn You're still one of my favorite people... just sayin'.[/quote]
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56786788 wrote:
.....would it be a bit blasphemous if I said, "PRAYSE RPJAYSUS!" like an Evangelical preacher?
Perhaps, but who doesn't like to blaspheme every now and again? Especially when Mr. RPJesus is completely right.
56756068 wrote:
I don't say this often, but ... LOL
57526128 wrote:
You... You... Evil something... I actualy made the damn char once I saw the poster... Now you made me see it again and I gained resolve to put it into my campaign. Shell be high standing oficial of Cyrix order. Uterly mad and only slightly evil. And it'll be bad. Evil even. And ill blame you and Lizard for it :P.
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111809331 wrote:
I'm trying to work out if you're being sarcastic here. ...
Am going to stop you right there... it's RPJesus... he's always sarcastic
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112114441 wrote:
we can only hope it gets the jace treatment...it could have at least been legendary
So that even the decks that don't run it run it to deal with it? Isn't that like the definition of format warping?
I lol'd.
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98088088 wrote:
Uktabi Orangutan What the heck's going on with those monkeys?
The most common answer is that they are what RPJesus would call "[Debutantes avert your eyes]ing."
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...Am I the only one that thinks this is reaching the point of downright Kafkaesque insanity?
I condone the use of the word Kafkaesque. However, I'm presentely ambivalent. I mean, that can't be serious, right? We're April 1st, right? They didn't mod RPJesus for off-topic discussion when the WHOLE THREAD IS OFF-TOPIC, right? Right.
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56957928 wrote:
Save or die. If you disagree with this, you're wrong (Not because of any points or arguements that have been made, but I just rolled a d20 for you and got a 1, so you lose).
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58222628 wrote:
This just won the argument, AFAIC.
That's just awesome.
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57718868 wrote:
HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE BEAR PRODUCING WORDS OF WILDING?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!
That's what RPJesus tends to do. That's why I don't think he's a real person, but some Magic Card Archive Server sort of machine, that is programmed to react to other posters' comments with obscure cards that do in fact exist, but somehow missed by even the most experienced Magic players. And then come up with strange combos with said cards. All of that is impossible for a normal human to do given the amount of time he does it and how often he does it. He/It got me with Light of Sanction, which prompted me to go to RQ&A to try and find if it was even possible to do combat damage to a creature I control (in light that Mark of Asylum exists).
71235715 wrote:
+10
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57078538 wrote:
heaven or hell.
Round 1. Lets rock.
GG quotes! RPJesus just made this thread win!
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143359585 wrote:
Blue players get all the overpowerered cards like JTMS. I think it's time that wizards gave something to people who remember what magic is really about: creatures.
Initially yes, Wizards was married to blue. However, about a decade ago they had a nasty divorce, and a few years after that they began courting the attention of Green. Then in Worldwake they had a nasty affair with their ex, but as of Innistrad, things seem to have gotten back on track, and Wizards has even proposed.
You are my favorite. Yes you. And moments like this make it so. Thank you RPJesus for just being you.
On what flavor text fits me:
57307308 wrote:
Surely RPJesus gets Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius?
56874518 wrote:
First: I STILL can't take you seriously with that avatar. And I can take RPJesus seriously, so that's saying something.
121689989 wrote:
I'd offer you a cookie for making me laugh but it has an Upkeep Cost that has been known to cause people to quit eating.
56267956 wrote:
I <3 you loads
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56957928 wrote:
"AINT NO LAWS IN THE SKY MOTHER****." - Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran
10/10. Amazing.
Rancor is far from the most op card.



It's not even the most OP card in the Urza block. Let's go by color, shall we?

: Replenish, Opalescence, Academy Rector
: Palinchron, Time Spiral, Peregrine Drake, Cloud of Faeries
: Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Exhume, Phyrexian Plaguelord
: Goblin Welder
: Argothian Elder, Elvish Piper, Greater Good
Artifacts: Masticore, Memory Jar
Lands: Serra's Sanctum, Tolarian Academy, Gaea's Cradle


I'd say Rancor beats out Opalescence, Peregrine Drake, Phyrexia Plaugelord, ARgothian Elder, Elvish Piper and Mastice pretty handedly. Probably Greater Good too, but I have a soft spot for one of green's only good sacrifice outlets.

Yxoque wrote:
This forum can't even ****ing self-destruct properly.

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Rancor is far from the most op card.



It's not even the most OP card in the Urza block. Let's go by color, shall we?

: Replenish, Opalescence, Academy Rector
: Palinchron, Time Spiral, Peregrine Drake, Cloud of Faeries
: Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Exhume, Phyrexian Plaguelord
: Goblin Welder
: Argothian Elder, Elvish Piper, Greater Good
Artifacts: Masticore, Memory Jar
Lands: Cathedral of Serra, Tolarian Academy, Gaea's Cradle



I know eh! I was going to list out pretty much everything yu just did, but my daughter just woke up when I was writting the post.

oh urza's block was fun. 



Everything you two wrote and more.
If POSValkir1 thinks Rancor is OP, he clearly never faced down an Academy deck in its prime (you know, before they started banning all the pieces)... now that was OP!
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Yeah it really sucks when they play a Champion, then Rancor Champ 1, play Champ 2, or Mayor. I'm down to 16 or 17. Then Geist or Silverblade who can't attack. Silverblade still needs a guy to pair with, Rancor need a guy to go on. Idk, I just Wrath.
Rancor is far from the most op card.



It's not even the most OP card in the Urza block. Let's go by color, shall we?

: Replenish, Opalescence, Academy Rector
: Palinchron, Time Spiral, Peregrine Drake, Cloud of Faeries
: Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Exhume, Phyrexian Plaguelord
: Goblin Welder
: Argothian Elder, Elvish Piper, Greater Good
Artifacts: Masticore, Memory Jar
Lands: Cathedral of Serra, Tolarian Academy, Gaea's Cradle



I know eh! I was going to list out pretty much everything yu just did, but my daughter just woke up when I was writting the post.

oh urza's block was fun. 



Everything you two wrote and more.
If POSValkir1 thinks Rancor is OP, he clearly never faced down an Academy deck in its prime (you know, before they started banning all the pieces)... now that was OP!



Seriously. Memory Jar is the only card to ever be emergency banned before the first announcement of bannings.

BTW, I've always wondered, you'd think they would've learned about artifact-counting back then, but then came Mirrodin.

For the rest of the cards...

Argothian Elder and Greater Good are more on the list because of what they can do, in the right hands. Considerinig that everything that applies to the "free" mechanic applies to any land-untap mechanic, yeah.

Opalescence for combining with Parallax Wave for a turn-5 Plague Wind that exiles rather than kills...and gives you infinite blinking.

Goblin Welder is kinda sad. It's red, and it is broken for the same reason reanimator's broken, but being the only red card on the list is kinda sad. (Tinker, by the way, is broken for the same reason. Hey, let me pop my 'thopter for a Masticore?)
139359831 wrote:
Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
---- Autocard is your friend. Lightning Bolt = Lightning Bolt

Seriously. Memory Jar is the only card to ever be emergency banned before the first announcement of bannings.



Yeah, I went to the Legacy pre-release, and remember people not being able to deck Memory Jars if they pulled them.
There were twitterings at the Exodus pre-release too, regarding Hatred, but that one stayed unbanned (which was fair enough, but it was amazingly broken in Exodus limited... I'm pretty sure anyone at the pre-release who was fortunate enough to pull one Top 8ed at the very least).

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Kitchen Table Pricewatch: Rise of the Eldrazi Post-Rotation
Kitchen Table Pricewatch: Worldwake Post-Rotation
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Previous Multiplayer Concoctions
Elemental, My Dear Watson (Rainbow Elementals)
Watch The Little Birdies! (Bird Tribal with Proliferate)
Kavu Kavu Kavu Banana (Kavu Predator aggro)
Faerie Bleeder (The "Death By A Thousand Cuts" Faerie deck)
Braaiiins! (Mono-black Zombie control)
Verhexterring (Jinxed Ring / Grave Pact)
Flourishing Blowflies ( -1/-1 Counters)

Seriously. Memory Jar is the only card to ever be emergency banned before the first announcement of bannings.



Yeah, I went to the Legacy pre-release, and remember people not being able to deck Memory Jars if they pulled them.
There were twitterings at the Exodus pre-release too, regarding Hatred, but that one stayed unbanned (which was fair enough, but it was amazingly broken in Exodus limited... I'm pretty sure anyone at the pre-release who was fortunate enough to pull one Top 8ed at the very least).




How...do you ban...from limited? It makes no sense.
139359831 wrote:
Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
---- Autocard is your friend. Lightning Bolt = Lightning Bolt
(Tinker, by the way, is broken for the same reason. Hey, let me pop my 'thopter for a Masticore?)


And really Tinker is even more ridic now that you can use it to fetch Tin-Can Hitman (Which don't get me wrong, not being like one of those scrubs who's all "INFECT IS OP," but I will admit it's a bit hard to come back from that on turn two or three).

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It's my sig in a box
58280208 wrote:
Everything is better when you read it in Bane's voice.
192334281 wrote:
Your human antics and desire to continue living have moved me. Just kidding. You cannot move me physically or emotionally. Wall humor.
57092228 wrote:
Copy effects work like a photocopy machine: you get a copy of the 'naked' card, NOT of what's on it.
56995928 wrote:
Funny story: InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game. I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul: Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?" Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy." Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb." Me: "*Sigh*. Okay." I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board. Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious.
My DM on Battleminds:
no, see i can kill defenders, but 8 consecutive crits on a battlemind, eh walk it off.
144543765 wrote:
195392035 wrote:
Hi guys! So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic. I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked. Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon. Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in. Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play. I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's. However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks. I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real. I want to begin playing it as a regular. My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck? Or are there special rules? Are some cards forbidden or restricted? Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol.
I have the same problem with women.
117639611 wrote:
198869283 wrote:
Oh I have a standing rule. If someone plays a Planeswalker I concede the game. I refuse to play with or against people who play Planeswalkers. They really did ruin the game.
A turn two Tibalt win?! Wicked... Betcha don't see that everyday.

The Pony Co. 

Is this my new ego sig? Yes it is, other Barry
57461258 wrote:
And that's why you should never, ever call RP Jesus on being a troll, because then everyone else playing along gets outed, too, and the thread goes back to being boring.
57461258 wrote:
See, this is why RPJesus should be in charge of the storyline. The novel line would never have been cancelled if he had been running the show. Specifically the Slobad and Geth's Head talkshow he just described.
57461258 wrote:
Not only was that an obligatory joke, it was an on-topic post that still managed to be off-topic due to thread derailment. RP Jesus does it again folks.
92481331 wrote:
I think I'm gonna' start praying to Jesus... That's right, RPJesus, I'm gonna' be praying to you, right now. O' Jesus Please continue to make my time here on the forums fun and cause me to chuckle. Amen.
92481331 wrote:
56957928 wrote:
It was wonderful. Us Johnnies had a field day. That Timmy with the Grizzly bears would actually have to think about swinging into your Mogg Fanatic, giving you time to set up your silly combo. Nowadays it's all DERPSWING! with thier blue jeans and their MP3 players and their EM EM OH AR PEE JEES and their "Dewmocracy" and their children's card games and their Jersey Shores and their Tattooed Tenaged Vampire Hunters from Beverly Hills
Seriously, that was amazing. I laughed my *ss off. Made my day, and I just woke up.
[quote=ArtVenn You're still one of my favorite people... just sayin'.[/quote]
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56786788 wrote:
.....would it be a bit blasphemous if I said, "PRAYSE RPJAYSUS!" like an Evangelical preacher?
Perhaps, but who doesn't like to blaspheme every now and again? Especially when Mr. RPJesus is completely right.
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I don't say this often, but ... LOL
57526128 wrote:
You... You... Evil something... I actualy made the damn char once I saw the poster... Now you made me see it again and I gained resolve to put it into my campaign. Shell be high standing oficial of Cyrix order. Uterly mad and only slightly evil. And it'll be bad. Evil even. And ill blame you and Lizard for it :P.
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111809331 wrote:
I'm trying to work out if you're being sarcastic here. ...
Am going to stop you right there... it's RPJesus... he's always sarcastic
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112114441 wrote:
we can only hope it gets the jace treatment...it could have at least been legendary
So that even the decks that don't run it run it to deal with it? Isn't that like the definition of format warping?
I lol'd.
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98088088 wrote:
Uktabi Orangutan What the heck's going on with those monkeys?
The most common answer is that they are what RPJesus would call "[Debutantes avert your eyes]ing."
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...Am I the only one that thinks this is reaching the point of downright Kafkaesque insanity?
I condone the use of the word Kafkaesque. However, I'm presentely ambivalent. I mean, that can't be serious, right? We're April 1st, right? They didn't mod RPJesus for off-topic discussion when the WHOLE THREAD IS OFF-TOPIC, right? Right.
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56957928 wrote:
Save or die. If you disagree with this, you're wrong (Not because of any points or arguements that have been made, but I just rolled a d20 for you and got a 1, so you lose).
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58222628 wrote:
This just won the argument, AFAIC.
That's just awesome.
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HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE BEAR PRODUCING WORDS OF WILDING?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!
That's what RPJesus tends to do. That's why I don't think he's a real person, but some Magic Card Archive Server sort of machine, that is programmed to react to other posters' comments with obscure cards that do in fact exist, but somehow missed by even the most experienced Magic players. And then come up with strange combos with said cards. All of that is impossible for a normal human to do given the amount of time he does it and how often he does it. He/It got me with Light of Sanction, which prompted me to go to RQ&A to try and find if it was even possible to do combat damage to a creature I control (in light that Mark of Asylum exists).
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+10
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56957928 wrote:
57078538 wrote:
heaven or hell.
Round 1. Lets rock.
GG quotes! RPJesus just made this thread win!
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143359585 wrote:
Blue players get all the overpowerered cards like JTMS. I think it's time that wizards gave something to people who remember what magic is really about: creatures.
Initially yes, Wizards was married to blue. However, about a decade ago they had a nasty divorce, and a few years after that they began courting the attention of Green. Then in Worldwake they had a nasty affair with their ex, but as of Innistrad, things seem to have gotten back on track, and Wizards has even proposed.
You are my favorite. Yes you. And moments like this make it so. Thank you RPJesus for just being you.
On what flavor text fits me:
57307308 wrote:
Surely RPJesus gets Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius?
56874518 wrote:
First: I STILL can't take you seriously with that avatar. And I can take RPJesus seriously, so that's saying something.
121689989 wrote:
I'd offer you a cookie for making me laugh but it has an Upkeep Cost that has been known to cause people to quit eating.
56267956 wrote:
I <3 you loads
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56957928 wrote:
"AINT NO LAWS IN THE SKY MOTHER****." - Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran
10/10. Amazing.

There were twitterings at the Exodus pre-release too, regarding Hatred, but that one stayed unbanned (which was fair enough, but it was amazingly broken in Exodus limited... I'm pretty sure anyone at the pre-release who was fortunate enough to pull one Top 8ed at the very least).



How...do you ban...from limited? It makes no sense.



Exactly - the warm, fuzzy part of me likes to think that they didn't follow through for that very reason. Sure, it was crippled in Limited, but outside of that, it was just another card (as you can tell by its price nowadays). Obviously, this was long before they started developing with all formats in mind, but it was the right call to make. Hatred may just have been the card that gave WotC the first nudge along the road to developing for Limited.

TL;DR (for everyone else): If you happen to find yourself playing Exodus Limited some day, he who drafts Hatred wins.

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Yeah, I went to the Legacy pre-release, and remember people not being able to deck Memory Jars if they pulled them.

You are misremembering.

Urza's Legacy was released in mid February 1999. Memory Jar was banned or restricted on April 1st 1999. It was legal in standard for maybe 6 weeks.

The ban was triggered by the card's results at GP Vienna in February 1999. Two players - Randy Buelher and (I think) Erilk Lauer - included it in their decks. They both made the top 8. This harbinger of things to come was spotted in time to announce the ban in accordance with their then timetable on March 1st for implementation a month later.

I was a floor judge at the London prerelease for Urza's Legacy, and there was no ban of Memory Jar in force.

The only card to be preemptively banned or restricted was Mind's Desire.

Three Nemesis cards got errata prior to their prerelease - search for cards with "Parallax" in their names.
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Rancor is far from the most op card.



It's not even the most OP card in the Urza block. Let's go by color, shall we?

: Replenish, Opalescence, Academy Rector
: Palinchron, Time Spiral, Peregrine Drake, Cloud of Faeries
: Yawgmoth's Will, Yawgmoth's Bargain, Exhume, Phyrexian Plaguelord
: Goblin Welder
: Argothian Elder, Elvish Piper, Greater Good
Artifacts: Masticore, Memory Jar
Lands: Serra's Sanctum, Tolarian Academy, Gaea's Cradle


Yay People love me. Seriously though, Masticore is no where near OP by todays standards, take away his draw back and he STILL wouldn't be that good.
57170298 wrote:
Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."
57044478 wrote:
Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.
97820278 wrote:
Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you? Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker. Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.
Yeah it really sucks when they play a Champion, then Rancor Champ 1, play Champ 2, or Mayor. I'm down to 16 or 17. Then Geist or Silverblade who can't attack. Silverblade still needs a guy to pair with, Rancor need a guy to go on. Idk, I just Wrath.


That's pretty much the problem though. Standard is mostly sorcery speed removal right now, which makes Silverblade really bomby, especially if he is dropping doublestrike on something that has a rancor on it.
57170298 wrote:
Borrowing the East Wind (P3) - Haha, it's like Hurricane but for horsemanship? That makes hilariously little sense. "Oh man, the wind is so much worse up on this horse."
57044478 wrote:
Jon Finkel can win a Magic tournament with a ham sandwich. That doesn't mean ham sandwiches are now the metagame breaker.
97820278 wrote:
Koth: I'm the first viable red planeswalker. Who are you? Tibalt: I'm a two-mana red planeswalker. Koth: I'm the last viable red planeswalker.
Yay People love me. Seriously though, Masticore is no where near OP by todays standards, take away his draw back and he STILL wouldn't be that good.



Take away his drawback, you say?

(Tinker, by the way, is broken for the same reason. Hey, let me pop my 'thopter for a Masticore?)


And really Tinker is even more ridic now that you can use it to fetch Tin-Can Hitman (Which don't get me wrong, not being like one of those scrubs who's all "INFECT IS OP," but I will admit it's a bit hard to come back from that on turn two or three).



Non-infect is OP as well.

But yeah, that's sort of a "card only good in EDH is broken when played with broken cards"-type thing. And Necropotence turns Healing Salve into Ancestral Recall; it's not the Salve's fault.
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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Yeah, I went to the Legacy pre-release, and remember people not being able to deck Memory Jars if they pulled them.

You are misremembering.

Urza's Legacy was released in mid February 1999. Memory Jar was banned or restricted on April 1st 1999. It was legal in standard for maybe 6 weeks.

The ban was triggered by the card's results at GP Vienna in February 1999. Two players - Randy Buelher and (I think) Erilk Lauer - included it in their decks. They both made the top 8. This harbinger of things to come was spotted in time to announce the ban in accordance with their then timetable on March 1st for implementation a month later.

I was a floor judge at the London prerelease for Urza's Legacy, and there was no ban of Memory Jar in force.




Wow, it's amazing what 13 years and two kids (and the assosciated lack of sleep) does to the memory! Were there twitterings of the Jar's impending doom at pre-release time? Maybe that's what I remember...

Yeah it really sucks when they play a Champion, then Rancor Champ 1, play Champ 2, or Mayor. I'm down to 16 or 17. Then Geist or Silverblade who can't attack. Silverblade still needs a guy to pair with, Rancor need a guy to go on. Idk, I just Wrath.


That's pretty much the problem though. Standard is mostly sorcery speed removal right now, which makes Silverblade really bomby, especially if he is dropping doublestrike on something that has a rancor on it.



So, in other words, it's the 2012 version of Turn 2 Edge on Nip. ;)

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Kitchen Table Pricewatch: Rise of the Eldrazi Post-Rotation
Kitchen Table Pricewatch: Worldwake Post-Rotation
Kitchen Table Pricewatch: Zendikar Post-Rotation
Previous Multiplayer Concoctions
Elemental, My Dear Watson (Rainbow Elementals)
Watch The Little Birdies! (Bird Tribal with Proliferate)
Kavu Kavu Kavu Banana (Kavu Predator aggro)
Faerie Bleeder (The "Death By A Thousand Cuts" Faerie deck)
Braaiiins! (Mono-black Zombie control)
Verhexterring (Jinxed Ring / Grave Pact)
Flourishing Blowflies ( -1/-1 Counters)
Yeah it really sucks when they play a Champion, then Rancor Champ 1, play Champ 2, or Mayor. I'm down to 16 or 17. Then Geist or Silverblade who can't attack. Silverblade still needs a guy to pair with, Rancor need a guy to go on. Idk, I just Wrath.


That's pretty much the problem though. Standard is mostly sorcery speed removal right now, which makes Silverblade really bomby, especially if he is dropping doublestrike on something that has a rancor on it.


Well, thats what I do. And it works. I worry more about Rancor on Lotleth Trolls, Strangleroot Geists, and Dreg Mangler. Haste, Undying, and Regenerate actually make a creature hard to deal with.