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Just wondering, but, what are some hopes/expectations/sneak peeks about the new release? From what I've been told, it should have the three missing guilds: Boros, Gruul, and Dimir.
And simic and orzhov. Each will have new guild keywords and the leaders won't be reprints from city of guilds. Each have their respective shock, gate, and keyrune. 

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Ah, I had forgotten about those two. It may be too early to say, but, and good combos that you might think will, or hope will, be there? Me personally am waiting on Gruul and Boros to see what they could do for goblins. R/G goblin isn't a bad choice already, but, it could be helped. Same for R/W.
And simic and orzhov. Each will have new guild keywords and the leaders won't be reprints from city of guilds. Each have their respective shock, gate, and keyrune. 


The council for Orzhov is back and the Gruul leader is the same.
Edit: You meant the exact cards themselves, not the characters. Sorry.  
I just want to finally be able to play U/B or Grixis control. Burn-oriented Planeswalker for Red would be cool, but I guess we already have Chandra, the Firebrand there. I just feel like PW should be able to protect themselves, or ulti ftw. I guess when she can be protected by Tamiyo and Jace she has alot of potential. I'd like to play Dual Casting with that but I feel like it would be gimmicky as hell.
And the uncounterable cycle, which was the one I was expecting the most (besides shocklands of course), is officially discontinued.

I would rather have the guildmage and the guild leader cycles ditched first, but oh well.

I hope the Simic guild isn't overpowered (you know, bring undercosted almost vanilla dudes without regarding the color pie just 'cause "it's what Spike likes"), and that the mechanic isn't more gimmick than good. Some of the last pet mechanics from MaRo and crew like Infect and Miracles has been quite bad.

It will be interesting to see how they differentiate Gruul and Boros, since last time they played out the same quickdrops + burn plan. Also Orzhov and Boros will be interesting to see since Boros tend to be reduced to "deal damage and gain life" while Orzhov is lifelink or "lose life and gain life".
If Limited gets in the way of printing good Constructed cards... Screw limited
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If Limited gets in the way of printing good Constructed cards... Screw limited

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I want to play B/R/W so bad. Really hoping a deck in those colors will be viable with the addition of Orzhov and Boros

First up, has WotC said anything about finally putting out another book to go along with the block's storyline? Honestly wish they would go back to the book per set plan, but I know that'll never happen.

I'm with BF - no Lightning Helix = major dissapointment. Though the Aj V. Bolas art is schweet


Oh, and I want a UG planeswalker. Heck, just more gold PW's in general.




I want to play B/R/W so bad. Really hoping a deck in those colors will be viable with the addition of Orzhov and Boros



Can try tokens out, Pack Rat is a nice black card.

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I want lands- Shocklands, Manlands, Utility lands, another art for Ghost Quarter, Tectonic Edge etc. I'm sure to be disappointed past Shocklands. More than anything I want good Simic cards that aren't creatures (be the Polymorph-variants, silly counters, enchantments that produce resources.) I'd just like something that plays well in passive decks from Simic (though the inevitable weenie swarm of Merfolk with snowballs and oddballs is sure to crush my dreams.) Still, I can hope- Simic, the Manland guild ftw?

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i want them to print this card, no questions asked



I anticipate they will; though there were no nonland reprints from Ravnica in RTR.


Also.... I still want this to be reprinted
i want them to print this card, no questions asked



I anticipate they will; though there were no nonland reprints from Ravnica in RTR.


Also.... I still want this to be reprinted

I'd probably slit my wrists if they reprinted faith's fetters in the same standard block as detention sphere, sphinx's revelation, angel of serenity, thragtusk, and every other durdly card that's already durdling the hell out of the format.

Lightning Helix seems like a possibility but somehow seems too efficient considering searing spear isn't incinerate.
i want them to print this card, no questions asked



I anticipate they will; though there were no nonland reprints from Ravnica in RTR.


Also.... I still want this to be reprinted

I'd probably slit my wrists if they reprinted faith's fetters in the same standard block as detention sphere, sphinx's revelation, angel of serenity, thragtusk, and every other durdly card that's already durdling the hell out of the format.

Lightning Helix seems like a possibility but somehow seems too efficient considering searing spear isn't incinerate.


the gave us this last time around

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That was before core sets stopped sucking. The best creature in standard is from a core set, after all.
All I want is enough Merfolk to make the new Lord worthwhile.
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Searing Spear isn't Incinerate because WotC wants to be able to push Regenerate as the powerful ability it actually is.

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mostly, i just want to see the format stop sucking so much

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mostly, i just want to see the format stop sucking so much


+1...ah, hell, +2
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97563441 wrote:
Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands. What are the new Scars duals called?
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Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.
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i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is. it's just really random.
And so the pot met the kettle.
i want them to print this card, no questions asked



I anticipate they will; though there were no nonland reprints from Ravnica in RTR.


Also.... I still want this to be reprinted


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Faith's fetter's would be a decent card to play against Thragtusk. I wouldn't be opposed.

Althought Tusk is good, I'm not sure I'd say it's the best creature in standard right now, just the most diverse.
Pretty sure the decks playing Fath's Fetters would also play Thragtusk, and games would go even longer. I honestly don't see a reason to reprint it, other than the fact that it is a pretty awesome card.

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I hope the new Dimir mechanic as awesome as the last one; I probably played every single transmute card at some point or another. That and hope the leaders and champions and **** aren't gimmicky mill cards. 
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That and hope the leaders and champions and **** aren't gimmicky mill cards. 



don't worry... they will be

i'd like to see shadowmage infiltrator, but i guess its not like there aren't a number of other ophidians already

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That and hope the leaders and champions and **** aren't gimmicky mill cards. 



don't worry... they will be

i'd like to see shadowmage infiltrator, but i guess its not like there aren't a number of other ophidians already


Kind of like Hypnotic Specter; I doubt it'd even see any play really. When Jon made the card, he couldn't have seen 3 cmc blue creatures swinging for 6 on turn four.
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That and hope the leaders and champions and **** aren't gimmicky mill cards. 



don't worry... they will be

i'd like to see shadowmage infiltrator, but i guess its not like there aren't a number of other ophidians already


Kind of like Hypnotic Specter; I doubt it'd even see any play really. When Jon made the card, he couldn't have seen 3 cmc blue creatures swinging for 6 on turn four.



no one would!!

i guess really it was dimir cutpurse that was on my mind.  whether in simic or dimir, i want some sort of good ophidian effect... i want simic to be just amazing, simic was basically my first love 

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milling is so fun! 
That and hope the leaders and champions and **** aren't gimmicky mill cards. 



don't worry... they will be

i'd like to see shadowmage infiltrator, but i guess its not like there aren't a number of other ophidians already


Kind of like Hypnotic Specter; I doubt it'd even see any play really. When Jon made the card, he couldn't have seen 3 cmc blue creatures swinging for 6 on turn four.



no one would!!

i guess really it was dimir cutpurse that was on my mind.  whether in simic or dimir, i want some sort of good ophidian effect... i want simic to be just amazing, simic was basically my first love 


I am vainly hoping that Simic gives rise to a fish.dec. I love fish.decs. We already have the lord and a couple of okay counterspells.
I hope the new Dimir mechanic as awesome as the last one; I probably played every single transmute card at some point or another. That and hope the leaders and champions and **** aren't gimmicky mill cards. 



I doubt Transmute would be good even in a format as slow as this one. Even the current Durdle cards do so in the board, nonboard durdle is still too suicidal.

There is a good chance Dimir doesn't get mill again, since UB seems the ideal control guild for the Gatecrash limited format. Just hope that Dimir doesn't get the combat mechanic booby prize, just as Rakdos did.
If Limited gets in the way of printing good Constructed cards... Screw limited
Just hope that Dimir doesn't get the combat mechanic booby prize, just as Rakdos did.



I'd say slim chance of that. If I recall the article, the problem was all spell mechanics in Return and all creature mechanics in Gatecrash. But I could be misremembering.

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I doubt Transmute would be good even in a format as slow as this one.

Transmute is a combo/control mechanic. Shred Memory finds Grapeshots, Dimir House Guard finds Empty the Warrens and Tendrils of Agony, Drift of Phantasms finds Early Harvest, Tolaria West finds Acedemy Ruins, Tolarian Acedemy, Dark Depths (the ability to find it gave redundancy to Gifts Ungiven piles where you'd fetch Tolraria West, Acedemy Ruins and two other busted cards). In both combo and control decks, Muddle the Mixture was sick, as most combo pieces are around 2 CMC, and the dispel-like counterspell is always relevant.

Transmute is one of the best mechanics WotC came up with - it was sorcery speed so it's never really broken, but it rewards careful deckbuilding and gives you a bunch of sweet tools to work with. 

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Faith's fetters loses to resto angel just like pacifism.



I didn't know that Jund played Resto.
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Faith's fetters loses to resto angel just like pacifism.



I didn't know that Jund played Resto.


Now you do, John. Now you do.
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Faith's fetters loses to resto angel just like pacifism.



I didn't know that Jund played Resto.


Now you do, John. Now you do.



And knowing is half the battle

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Faith's fetters loses to resto angel just like pacifism.



I didn't know that Jund played Resto.


Now you do, John. Now you do.



And knowing is half the battle



LMAO. Any chance Megrim will be reprinted?
I doubt it.  We'd probably just get Liliana's Caress back in M14.
If memory serves correct, Megrim can hit PWs, whereas caress cannot.
I imagine they will avoid creating that confusion in a core set. 

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