R/G Infinite combos, or really broken stuff.

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I am currently constructing (or at least attempting too) a R/G EDH deck. I would like the primary focus to be on infinite/broken combos since the general pool for R/G is pretty poor.


I already have the classic Saproling Cluster, Fecundity, Ashnod's Altar combo plus Phyrexian Altar too search the deck or color fix the finishers. Also the good old Mana Reflection, Basalt Monolith, Grim Monolith generator.


If anyone has some suggestions or knows some other broken combos in these colors please feel free to help me out. I'm hoping to have a good amount of synergy between the cards floating around in the deck since it's a 100 card pile if thats possible.


For lol's and since the R/G general pool is not all that great anyway I'm intending on using The Lady of the Mountain for the general just so some poor sucker will say he was defeated by a Lady of the mountain deck.


anyways anything off the top of your heads is welcome, I'm still in the design phase anyway.

thanks for your time everyone


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Hellkite ChargerBear Umbra



Sweetness, I love it, especially since I was already planning on running Hellkite Charger as a finisher. Thank you sir! 

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Sylvan LibraryWords of War/Words of Wilding plays well with Fecundity and Altars.
Sylvan LibraryWords of War/Words of Wilding plays well with Fecundity and Altars.



Nice, I was going to run library anyways. Words of Wilding is so cool, the red one is good but wilding works with the other combo pieces. Thanks I never knew that card existed.


I also thought up using Myr Retriever and Junk Diver (which will be in the deck anyway on account of all the artifacts for combos) with Cloud Key + Ashnod's Altar.



      

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Hellkite ChargerBear Umbra



Sweetness, I love it, especially since I was already planning on running Hellkite Charger as a finisher. Thank you sir! 


Sword of Feast and Famine also works to push hellkite infinite, and it's plenty good on its own.

Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine or Bear Umbra + Any Creature

Melira, Sylvok Outcast + Woodfall Primus + Any Sac Outlet (Ashnod's Altar is nice)
Melira + Anything with Persist + Goblin Bombardment or Altar of Dementia
Melira + Cauldron of Souls + Any Sweeper.

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THE COALITION WAR GAME -Phyrexian Chief Praetor
Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920

Not infinite, but also good:

Liquimetal Coating + Glissa Sunseeker or Shattering Pulse = Cheap Legacy Weapon knockoff

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THE COALITION WAR GAME -Phyrexian Chief Praetor
Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920

Hellkite ChargerBear Umbra



Sweetness, I love it, especially since I was already planning on running Hellkite Charger as a finisher. Thank you sir! 


Sword of Feast and Famine also works to push hellkite infinite, and it's plenty good on its own.

Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine or Bear Umbra + Any Creature

Melira, Sylvok Outcast + Woodfall Primus + Any Sac Outlet (Ashnod's Altar is nice)
Melira + Anything with Persist + Goblin Bombardment or Altar of Dementia
Melira + Cauldron of Souls + Any Sweeper.





Love the Sword (forgot all about it) and the Assault thats going in since it gels with the hellkite/umbra combo.

I saw Melira + Primus last night on gatherer and added them too the list. I'm not really a fan of the other persist guys they just don't pack that much of a punch for an EDH game in my opinion. I will use the Cauldron though, it's great against sweepers alone, but with Melira it just gets fun

Bombardment and Altar of Dementia are also both already in the deck list with the other two altars so things should get nasty.
 

Thanks for the helpful suggestions.

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I'm also gitty about Pandemonium with Sekki, Seasons' Guide since the Pandemonium works with the cluster and words of wilding combos.


Edit: oh yeah AND the primus combo.  

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Consider Stalking Vengeance or Warstorm Surge.  They don't let your opponents wreck you.

Also, Mana Echoes could be fun as with Sekki it allows you yet another infinite mana combo.

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THE COALITION WAR GAME -Phyrexian Chief Praetor
Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920

Consider Stalking Vengeance or Warstorm Surge.  They don't let your opponents wreck you.

Also, Mana Echoes could be fun as with Sekki it allows you yet another infinite mana combo.




Totally awesome!, thanks. I think I'll use all 3 and maybe dump the Pandemonium though I might keep it and just hold it in hand till the combos down...maybe.


I'm in love with the Mana Echoes it can combo with the cluster/Fecundity or words od wilding/fecundity too. great suggestions!  

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I assume you know about Channel/Fireball

Primeval Titan and Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle is a well-known one. (If you have Prismatic Omen out, your Valakuts are mountains themselves!) Prime Time and Koth of the Hammer are also close friends (especially with the aforementioned Omen).

Liquimetal Coating+Splinter says "Oh? You needed those swamps? I'm sorry."

In midrange terms, Goblin Tunneler + Ogre Menial is hilarious. Have your green side play things like Giant Growth too.
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Both Channel and Primeval Titan are banned in EDH

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Okay then. Well, that makes things tougher. Splinter's still an option, though.

You can also Eternal Witness/Manic Vandal/Roaring Primadox for "Vindicate every turn".
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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you forgot the best of Melira, Sylvok Outcast
Melira, Sylvok Outcast+murderous red-cap/Kitchen finks+sac engine (the most popular is viscera seer)
The deck would be sweet with Trample, Rampage and Lure effects to fill it out. There's always fun cards like Pyrohemia and Chandra's Spitfire. Pyrohemia plays well with Rampagers.


Seriously, though, there's also Staff of Domination and it's assorted minions.

EDIT: and don't forget the simple joys of stuff like Aluren, Cloudstone Curio, Kobolds, and Skullclamp.
you forgot the best of Melira, Sylvok Outcast
Melira, Sylvok Outcast+murderous red-cap/Kitchen finks+sac engine (the most popular is viscera seer)




Unfortunatly it is an EDH deck and is limited to Red/Green/Colorless for card pool. 

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The deck would be sweet with Trample, Rampage and Lure effects to fill it out. There's always fun cards like Pyrohemia and Chandra's Spitfire. Pyrohemia plays well with Rampagers.


Seriously, though, there's also Staff of Domination and it's assorted minions.

EDIT: and don't forget the simple joys of stuff like Aluren, Cloudstone Curio, Kobolds, and Skullclamp.




I'm toying with and the whole swarm of idiots thing. Berserk is in with Rock Hydra and Primordial Hydra as mana dumps, plus the fact they own with Stalking Vengeance, Warstorm Surge and Altar of Dementia.

Staff of Domination is banned in EDH to my knowledge.

I might just bite the bullet and use Ulasht, the Hate Seed for General even though the Lady would be funny due to its lameness. Ulasht is another kill method.

cheers     

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I'm toying with and the whole swarm of idiots thing. Berserk is in with Rock Hydra and Primordial Hydra as mana dumps, plus the fact they own with Stalking Vengeance, Warstorm Surge and Altar of Dementia.


Awesome. There's also Balduvian Hydra as Rock Hydra #2, with the added benefit of being able to be thrown by Stone Giant, etc.
 
Staff of Domination is banned in EDH to my knowledge.


Bizarre. With all the toys that are legal...
  
I might just bite the bullet and use Ulasht, the Hate Seed for General even though the Lady would be funny due to its lameness. Ulasht is another kill method.

cheers     


I'm rooting for the use of Lady of the Mountain.


I'm toying with and the whole swarm of idiots thing. Berserk is in with Rock Hydra and Primordial Hydra as mana dumps, plus the fact they own with Stalking Vengeance, Warstorm Surge and Altar of Dementia.


Awesome. There's also Balduvian Hydra as Rock Hydra #2, with the added benefit of being able to be thrown by Stone Giant, etc.
 
Staff of Domination is banned in EDH to my knowledge.


Bizarre. With all the toys that are legal...
  
I might just bite the bullet and use Ulasht, the Hate Seed for General even though the Lady would be funny due to its lameness. Ulasht is another kill method.

cheers     


I'm rooting for the use of Lady of the Mountain.




I totally forgot about that hydra I might try to squeeze him into the list.

Okay by popular demand the Lady will bring a can of whomp-ass down the mountain to the masses.

EDIT: I'll be running Vigor due to his jump back in the library qualities so the Balduvian Hydra should join the party.

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It's not infinite, but Saproling Burst and Essence of the Wild or essence and Kessig Cagebreakers are both pretty fun.

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Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest.
Simple mono-green combo for infinite Squirrels.
And Earthcraft is legal in Commander, and a card at the heart of many broken combos. Seems to be a good card to have in (if you've got it).
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Melira, Sylvok Outcast+random persist creature+sac outlet+Flayer of the Hatebound sounds good, though.
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Clever deduction Watson! Maybe you can explain why Supergirl is trying to kill me.
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I'm surprised that you're not using Rosheen Meanderer as your commander.

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I'm surprised that you're not using Rosheen Meanderer as your commander.




Because using The Lady of the Mountain is hystarical.  

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It's not infinite, but Saproling Burst and Essence of the Wild or essence and Kessig Cagebreakers are both pretty fun.



It looks like fun but I live in fear of the Essence owning me, since I'll be relying on alot of my creatures abilities. (though it would make Lady of the Mountain a 6/6)  

Earthcraft + Squirrel Nest.
Simple mono-green combo for infinite Squirrels.
And Earthcraft is legal in Commander, and a card at the heart of many broken combos. Seems to be a good card to have in (if you've got it).



Sadly I do not have an Earthcraft, but am still hoping to stumble across one.  

Melira, Sylvok Outcast+random persist creature+sac outlet+Flayer of the Hatebound sounds good, though.



Flayer is cool, but I think he's alittle out shined by stalking vengeance and warstorm surge. They both are more versitile too this build unless I or someone can think of something other than Melira to bounce back guys in an R/G build.


cheers  

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I am playing around with a deck list which I will post in the "Commander - EDH" forum, hopefully on Saturday. 

Thank you to everyone who took the time to make suggestions, I stopped playing from 2003-2010 so there is alot of cards I missed. I do try to browse the gatherer to educate myself on all that I missed, but your knowledge has helped me fill in some blanks on this project of mine.

An EDH play group I sometimes play with has been running rampet with combo decks recently, so I wish to give them a taste of their own medicine. I currenty count 23 infinite combos in the ruff list so far (most of which are interchangable) so I'm getting warm fuzzy feelings.

I will post a link here to the list in the EDH forum when I get it set up there.

Again thanks for help, go community go!


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The 1st draft list is up. If you care too view it feel free to use the link below.

community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...


Cheers.

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In EDH, you might like Darksteel Forge + Mycosynth Lattice + Shatterstorm or Creeping Corrosion = "I have all the permanents here!"

If you're running Vigor, consider Pyrohemia. (I still say it should be Pyrrhemia, but TPTB didn't ask me.) Your opponents' guys die, but yours just get stronger.
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