10/16/2012 RC: "Surprise! Take 3!"

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This thread is for discussion of this week's ReConstructed, which goes live Tuesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
Since you have black already, what about Dark Confidant? You could take out Grim Lavamancers, since both cards have the weakness of needing to stick around for a turn to be useful, and a third of the deck is still ready to be played on the 1st turn.
I took out Confidant for the same reason that I dropped Hellspark--too mana-intensive with too little reward.  Same goes for Magma Jet, but I'd submitted the list before I got far enough in testing to see it.
When Burn becomes Slight.
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57817638 wrote:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
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56747598 wrote:
57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
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76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
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57864098 wrote:
57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
99812049 wrote:
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
56816728 wrote:
56854588 wrote:
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
70246459 wrote:
WOAH wait wait wait
56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
56957928 wrote:
OH MY GOD
109874309 wrote:
The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
82032421 wrote:
The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
56874518 wrote:
Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
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58280208 wrote:
You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
57817638 wrote:
57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
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58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
56965458 wrote:
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
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57309598 wrote:
I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
58325628 wrote:
Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.
Doug Beyer:
But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
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Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :
57927608 wrote:
to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
58347268 wrote:
when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
143229641 wrote:
I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Dymecoar:
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
Omega137:
Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right." Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"
Zigeif777:
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
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58258708 wrote:
It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
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94618431 wrote:
I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
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97980259 wrote:
My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days. We named it Grixis, but it died.
Unearth it!
70246459 wrote:
[/spoiler] And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you? Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now. Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
Any thoughts of sideboarding 2 Anathemancer?
Neat article, but I'm a bit confused about the lands.  I understand  Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt for Bump in the Night (black mana), but everything else is just red.  So why Scalding Tarn and Arid Mesa?  I don't see anything that combos off land drops, so you'd really be paying life for a virtual Mountain?  Or am I missing something?
Neat article, but I'm a bit confused about the lands.  I understand  Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt for Bump in the Night (black mana), but everything else is just red.  So why Scalding Tarn and Arid Mesa?  I don't see anything that combos off land drops, so you'd really be paying life for a virtual Mountain?  Or am I missing something?

Deck thinning: The fetches let you pull an additional land out of the library, increasing the spell to land ratio, thereby increasing the chance you'll draw a spell. You can also hold it in reserve to turn on the landfall trigger of Searing Blaze. They also let you fetch the Blood Crypt.
Neat article, but I'm a bit confused about the lands.  I understand  Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt for Bump in the Night (black mana), but everything else is just red.  So why Scalding Tarn and Arid Mesa?  I don't see anything that combos off land drops, so you'd really be paying life for a virtual Mountain?  Or am I missing something?

Deck thinning: The fetches let you pull an additional land out of the library, increasing the spell to land ratio, thereby increasing the chance you'll draw a spell. You can also hold it in reserve to turn on the landfall trigger of Searing Blaze. They also let you fetch the Blood Crypt.


To add to this, it also puts more cards in your graveyard to fuel Grim Lavamancer.
Any time travellers want to share some tips on meeting that deadline?
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What is that lovely cute image of Jaya Ballard, the second one, with the "Of course you should" quote?
@dastels, @DeluxeTea - Thanks guys!  I'm relatively new to MTG and this is useful info!
Neat article, but I'm a bit confused about the lands.  I understand  Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt for Bump in the Night (black mana), but everything else is just red.  So why Scalding Tarn and Arid Mesa?  I don't see anything that combos off land drops, so you'd really be paying life for a virtual Mountain?  Or am I missing something?

Deck thinning: The fetches let you pull an additional land out of the library, increasing the spell to land ratio, thereby increasing the chance you'll draw a spell. You can also hold it in reserve to turn on the landfall trigger of Searing Blaze. They also let you fetch the Blood Crypt.


To add to this, it also puts more cards in your graveyard to fuel Grim Lavamancer.



Not only THAT, they can also fetch you that Blood Crypt you might need for a timely Bump in the Night, since Blood Crypt is a Mountain.
What is that lovely cute image of Jaya Ballard, the second one, with the "Of course you should" quote?



It's the Vanguard avatar. www.wizards.com/Magic/TCG/Article.aspx?x...
Neat article, but I'm a bit confused about the lands.  I understand  Blackcleave Cliffs and Blood Crypt for Bump in the Night (black mana), but everything else is just red.  So why Scalding Tarn and Arid Mesa?  I don't see anything that combos off land drops, so you'd really be paying life for a virtual Mountain?  Or am I missing something?

Deck thinning: The fetches let you pull an additional land out of the library, increasing the spell to land ratio, thereby increasing the chance you'll draw a spell. You can also hold it in reserve to turn on the landfall trigger of Searing Blaze. They also let you fetch the Blood Crypt.


To add to this, it also puts more cards in your graveyard to fuel Grim Lavamancer.



Not only THAT, they can also fetch you that Blood Crypt you might need for a timely Bump in the Night, since Blood Crypt is a Mountain.

Yes, I hit that point. I did miss mentioning that they load you up for Grim Lavamancer. The point about Blood Crypt being a mountain (as well as a swamp) is one of the main reason shocklands are so powerful (that and being able to enter untapped when you need them to). The shock is the only downside compared to the original duals. (e.g. Badlands) which are both basic types AND come in untapped without penalty. Shocks are the next best thing.. AND are way, way cheaper, and modern legal.
Fetch lands "thinning" the deck is statistically insignificant.
I'm what you'd call a newbie, but when I was looking at a "burn" deck, it seemed that Guttersnipe was a very logical choice for one?  It seems better than several of the creatures you chose.  Am I missing something?
I'm what you'd call a newbie, but when I was looking at a "burn" deck, it seemed that Guttersnipe was a very logical choice for one?  It seems better than several of the creatures you chose.  Am I missing something?


Speed and content, I'm guessing.
By the time Guttersnipe comes out, one's hand is at least half-empty. And with only eighteen instants/sorceries in the deck, he's not contributing maximum bang for each spell being played every turn.
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Fetch lands "thinning" the deck is statistically insignificant.



Seriously?

OK, you are on the play and have not mulliganned with the deck as is. Assuming average luck, you will have drawn 2 or 3 land (assuming 2) leaving you with 18/53 of your deck as land, or 33.96% land. Playing and popping a fetch drops that to 17/52, or 32.69%. A difference of ~0.7% is significant.

Turn two, assume you get ANOTHER (not out of the question, given 9 fetches). Assuming this was in your opening hand, then it drops to 16/50, or 32.00%. Believe me when I say that the thinning of your deck like this is HUGE. It gets you closer the spells you want. 
 Yes, I hit that point. I did miss mentioning that they load you up for Grim Lavamancer. The point about Blood Crypt being a mountain (as well as a swamp) is one of the main reason shocklands are so powerful (that and being able to enter untapped when you need them to). The shock is the only downside compared to the original duals. (e.g. Badlands) which are both basic types AND come in untapped without penalty. Shocks are the next best thing.. AND are way, way cheaper, and modern legal.


Regarding the single Blood Crypt - it's the only fetchable black source the deck has. Do people run land destruction in Modern? Your opponent blasting your Blood Crypt kind of shuts down your Bumps unless you have a fastland in play. It won't come up often I think, but it is annoying. I'm asking because I haven't played Modern even in a FNM setting, and I'd like to build this deck to get into the format.
Anybody else notice 4x Unknown in that one decklist?
Seriously?

OK, you are on the play and have not mulliganned with the deck as is. Assuming average luck, you will have drawn 2 or 3 land (assuming 2) leaving you with 18/53 of your deck as land, or 33.96% land. Playing and popping a fetch drops that to 17/52, or 32.69%. A difference of ~0.7% is significant.

Turn two, assume you get ANOTHER (not out of the question, given 9 fetches). Assuming this was in your opening hand, then it drops to 16/50, or 32.00%. Believe me when I say that the thinning of your deck like this is HUGE. It gets you closer the spells you want. 

"Huge"? Drawing one less land for every 25 games you play is "Huge"? I'm not sure that's a statement I can get behind. If you just want to talk percentages of things that impact the game when you fetch, in your scenario you're increasing your odds of drawing a spell by 0.007, but you're losing 5% of your life total (or more) to do it. Is that still worth it? No, it isn't, if the thinning is ALL that you care about.

Obviously thinning isn't the only benefit of fetchlands so they're still clearly worth playing (particularly with a Lavamancer), but theoretically in a mono-colored deck (no need for color-fixing) with no graveyard benefits at all, the thinning is not worth it. 
Sorry but i don't think you playtested that deck all that much. Anyone who's tried vexing devil would know it doesn't belong in burn