Can Blue be ethical?

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Lately, the amoral scientist aspect of has been played more predominantly.

However, without or influences, I think can still be ethical and easily "leashed".

The philosopher archetype is obvious, but I was thinking more of a pragmatic sort of morality, by which preservation allows greater understanding (incidently, this is easily translated as 's no-kill policy).
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Definitely, it doesn't even need an outside color splash. It can also be amoral too though. Depends on the character.
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Lately, the amoral scientist aspect of has been played more predominantly.

However, without or influences, I think can still be ethical and easily "leashed".

The philosopher archetype is obvious, but I was thinking more of a pragmatic sort of morality, by which preservation allows greater understanding (incidently, this is easily translated as 's no-kill policy).

Of course since the big time villians favor high intellengnece for schemes to defeat their adversaries.

It's one of the most common things villians do.
Definitely. Hell, even can be ethical, if society itself is wrong.

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Of course it can. Blue wants improvement. Not just of the self, but also of society. Depending on your philosophical outlook, being ethical is a big part of improving society.

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Why could it not be? Or any other 'colour' for that matter.
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Blue is not concerned with ethics -- neither morality nor amorality are inherantly more blue.  Some might argue that a lack of interest in morality equates to black-esque amorality, but really blue's stand is more passive than that.  It simply does not care one way or the other, and thus it is up to the blue individual to be personally moral or amoral.

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I wouldn't say Blue is unconcerned with ethics. It would find them very curious and interesting to study.

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Blue is not concerned with ethics -- neither morality nor amorality are inherantly more blue.  Some might argue that a lack of interest in morality equates to black-esque amorality, but really blue's stand is more passive than that.  It simply does not care one way or the other, and thus it is up to the blue individual to be personally moral or amoral.



I think that you are either mistaken or, more likely, use "amoral" very differently from the way I do. It seems to me that when bad, black is "immoral" (it knows the law and deliberately breaks it anyway), while blue is "amoral" (totally ignores the law).

Moral = Personally adheres to a set of values
Immoral = Does not adhere to someone's personal set of values
Amoral = Does not personally adhere to any set of values
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Think of how Neo couldn't beat the robots, but they kept him around anyways to defeat Agent Smith. Sure, the robots might not like having a Neo running rampant because instead of playing their favorite 4 drop fatty robot, they have to play a bunch of one mana Matrixs to contain him, but at least Neo keeps Agent Smith from reanimating an Iona on turn two.
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Are you saying I'm trying to blame my loss on something? I don't care that I lost, I care that he's a sore loser, and a cheater, and a liar.
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CKY, are you bad at anything?
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I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts. I mean, In KevinWorld, Mark is reading the very words I'm typing as well. Heck, in KevinWorld maybe I am Mark.
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I'm beginning to think CKY may be anime in real life...
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I must admit chinkeeyong, you have the most interesting character ideas; and you play them well.
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Moral = Personally adheres to a set of values
Immoral = Does not adhere to someone's personal set of values
Amoral = Does not personally adhere to any set of values


Other possible definition of amoral:

Acting outside the realm or nuetrally with the realm of a set of values. 
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Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.
Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata WHAT NOW! (yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)
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Moral = Personally adheres to a set of values
Immoral = Does not adhere to someone's personal set of values
Amoral = Does not personally adhere to any set of values



Immoral more means "goes against society's set of values".

Moral means "adheres to society's set of values".

Amoral means "doesn't care about society's set of values".

Moral itself comes from the Latin word for "custom".

is the most amoral color combination: Black thinks morality is stupid, and green thinks morality is unnatural.

, however, is the most moral color. In fact, custom is practically the only source for "what you are allowed to do" for white.
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Blue is not concerned with ethics -- neither morality nor amorality are inherantly more blue.  Some might argue that a lack of interest in morality equates to black-esque amorality, but really blue's stand is more passive than that.  It simply does not care one way or the other, and thus it is up to the blue individual to be personally moral or amoral.



I think that you are either mistaken or, more likely, use "amoral" very differently from the way I do. It seems to me that when bad, black is "immoral" (it knows the law and deliberately breaks it anyway), while blue is "amoral" (totally ignores the law).


Black is not immoral, since Black is perfectly willing to work along with laws that serve it. It is inherently amoral because it only does whatever will help itself, moral or immoral; extreme pragmatism is a trait of Black.

Blue can be either moral or amoral, since stance on morality isn't a focus of Blue.
Moral = Personally adheres to a set of values
Immoral = Does not adhere to someone's personal set of values
Amoral = Does not personally adhere to any set of values



Immoral more means "goes against society's set of values".

Moral means "adheres to society's set of values".

Amoral means "doesn't care about society's set of values".

Moral itself comes from the Latin word for "custom".

is the most amoral color combination: Black thinks morality is stupid, and green thinks morality is unnatural.


, however, is the most moral color. In fact, custom is practically the only source for "what you are allowed to do" for white.




But morality is not unnatural. At least not to Great Apes and most of the fantasy humanoid races that are commonly associated with Green in this game. Law is unnatural, but Law is not Morality. 


And Green respects tradition almost as much as White, if not more. Green is the color of status quo. Green values its place in the ecosystem and its ancestors' own customs more than anything.