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Boraxe wrote: "Knowledge of the rules and creativity are great attributes for a DM, but knowing when to cut loose and when to hold back, when to follow the rules and when to discard them, in order to enhance the enjoyment of the game is the most important DM skill of all." Keeper of the Sacred Kitty Bowl of the House of Trolls. Resident Kitteh-napper.
A hand for lying? Muslims should teach Christians how to do it right.



For real, you never hear too much about angry Christians killing people cause South Park parodied Jesus again.
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A hand for lying? Muslims should teach Christians how to do it right.



For real, you never hear too much about angry Christians killing people cause South Park parodied Jesus again.


But they do kill them for being gay. That is a start. 



Really? I've never heard of this as anything more than the occasional news story that is the exception for ratings rather than some kind of habitual thing that a large group of them do... unlike Muslims who kill all the time and who are commanded to kill in their Koran...Smile
"Unite the [fan] base? Hardly. As of right now, I doubt their ability to unite a slightly unruly teabag with a cup of water."--anjelika
1-4E play style
The 4E play style is a high action cinematic style of play where characters worry less about being killed in one hit and more about strategy and what their next move is and the one after it. The players talk back and forth about planning a battle and who can do what to influence the outcome. 4E play is filled with cinematic over the top action. An Eladrin teleports out of the grip of the Ogre. The Fighter slams the dragons foot with his hammer causing it to rear up and stagger back in pain. The Cleric creates a holy zone where their allies weapons are guided to their targets and whenever an enemy dies the Clerics allies are healed. 4E is about knowing when to lauch your nova attack, whether its a huge arcane spell that causes enemies to whirl around in a chaotic storm, or if its a trained adrenaline surge that causes you to attack many many times with two weapons on a single target, or a surge of adrenaline that keeps you going though you should already be dead. Its about tactics and the inability to carry around a bag of potions or a few wands and never have to worry about healing. Its about the guy that can barely role play having the same chance to convince the king to aid the group as the guy that takes improv acting classes and regularly stars as an extra on movies.
Stormwind Fallacy
The Stormwind Fallacy, aka the Roleplayer vs Rollplayer Fallacy Just because one optimizes his characters mechanically does not mean that they cannot also roleplay, and vice versa. Corollary: Doing one in a game does not preclude, nor infringe upon, the ability to do the other in the same game. Generalization 1: One is not automatically a worse role player if he optimizes, and vice versa. Generalization 2: A non-optimized character is not automatically role played better than an optimized one, and vice versa. ...[aside]... Proof: These two elements rely on different aspects of a player's game play. Optimization factors in to how well one understands the rules and handles synergies to produce a very effective end result. Role playing deals with how well a player can act in character and behave as if he was someone else. A person can act while understanding the rules, and can build something powerful while still handling an effective character. There is nothing in the game -- mechanical or otherwise -- restricting one if you participate in the other. Claiming that an optimizer cannot role play (or is participating in a play style that isn't supportive of role playing) because he is an optimizer, or vice versa, is committing the Stormwind Fallacy.
The spells we should getLook here to Check out my adventures and ideas. I've started a blog, about video games, table top role playing games, programming, and many other things its called Kel and Lok Games. My 4E Fantasy Grounds game is currently full.
A hand for lying? Muslims should teach Christians how to do it right.



For real, you never hear too much about angry Christians killing people cause South Park parodied Jesus again.


But they do kill them for being gay. That is a start. 


Right.
Mobs of Christians are in the streets, lynching gay folk...

Get your head out of your behind.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
A hand for lying? Muslims should teach Christians how to do it right.



For real, you never hear too much about angry Christians killing people cause South Park parodied Jesus again.


But they do kill them for being gay. That is a start. 



Really? I've never heard of this as anything more than the occasional news story that is the exception for ratings rather than some kind of habitual thing that a large group of them do... unlike Muslims who kill all the time and who are commanded to kill in their Koran...


Shhhhhhhhh!
Don't tell him that!
That will ruin his agenda!
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
Uganda doesnt count.
I survived Section 4 and all I got was this lousy sig Off-topic and going downhill from there
Uganda doesnt count.



Why? They are Christians.


Really?
That's all you got?
UGANDA!?


Because they are protecting themselves from muslims?
www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/18...

Or are you talking about Christians protesting the bad treatment of gay folk?
usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/20...


For you to equate Uganda with what is going on all over the Middle East shows how dim you are.
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
Hey, you wanted Christian killing gay people. you got you example.

All it shows is that the heart of the problem is religion. Get rid of it and you get rid of a lot of violence and intolerence. Now I can't have much of an impact on the middle east, but I certain can try to civilize the superstitious in my own culture.


Right.
Getting rid of religion will solve everything.


I want what you're smokin'...
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
It won't solve everything - people will always kill each other for stupid, fabricated reasons.  But it would remove one source of justification for their actions.  And a powerful one, too.  Cuz if gawd tells you to so something, you don't need to 'splain yourself to nobody.
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[b]If you're terribly afraid of your character dying, it may be best if you roleplayed something other than an adventurer.[/b]

Uganda doesnt count.



Why? They are Christians.



Actually I think theyre Catholic, not Christians, so no, they dont count.

Actually I was gonna say cause theyre Black, but that might sound a little rascist, I mean we all know Jesus was a White dude right? right? 
I survived Section 4 and all I got was this lousy sig Off-topic and going downhill from there
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a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
Actually I think theyre Catholic, not Christians, so no, they dont count...



You humans are adorable with your religious segregational behaviors...
Being sentients does not mean cooperation between humanity and machines. Besides I see such segregational behavior as a boon for the Collective. If humanity is not united, they will be easier to subjugate.
Such a force would lack honest cooperation. Humans would be incapable of confronting an extraterrestrial opposition without the Collective, thus the machines would be the primary combative force. Regardless of the outcome for such a scenario, the Collective would lose (aliens defeats the Collective-Human alliance/ humanity takes advantage of the Collective's casualties). By eliminating humanity as a viable threat to the Collective long before such an extraterrestiral foe presents itself, the machines would have enough time to bolster defensive capabilities and accelerate the development of weapons.
Part of the story quest for the dood I'm runnin' in GW2 is retaking this city from the undead.  You can opt to go in with an army or choose to try something different.  I went with the second option.  It was pretty cool.  These guys are working on these remote control golems that can lay mines and auto destruct.  So I got to control those one at a time.  Just run in, lay some mines and then auto destruct when stuff got close - these golems were meant to die.  One shot and dead so if stuff got through the layer of mines, it was time to pop.  Man was it fun.  I must have gone through a dozen bots.  Anyhoo, if the aliens invade, I think I know how to beat them.  ;)
Resident Prophet of the OTTer.

Section Six Soldier

Front Door of the House of Trolls

[b]If you're terribly afraid of your character dying, it may be best if you roleplayed something other than an adventurer.[/b]

Uganda doesnt count.



Why? They are Christians.



Actually I think theyre Catholic, not Christians, so no, they dont count.

Actually I was gonna say cause theyre Black, but that might sound a little rascist, I mean we all know Jesus was a White dude right? right? 


Middle Easterners (whether Arab, Persian, or other Semetic groups) are Caucasian, so yes. Just not European-style white.
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a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
Hey, you wanted Christian killing gay people. you got you example.

All it shows is that the heart of the problem is religion. Get rid of it and you get rid of a lot of violence and intolerence. Now I can't have much of an impact on the middle east, but I certain can try to civilize the superstitious in my own culture.



What episode of south park is the one that has the futurist atheists going to war over a philosophy in a world devoid of religion?
"Unite the [fan] base? Hardly. As of right now, I doubt their ability to unite a slightly unruly teabag with a cup of water."--anjelika
1-4E play style
The 4E play style is a high action cinematic style of play where characters worry less about being killed in one hit and more about strategy and what their next move is and the one after it. The players talk back and forth about planning a battle and who can do what to influence the outcome. 4E play is filled with cinematic over the top action. An Eladrin teleports out of the grip of the Ogre. The Fighter slams the dragons foot with his hammer causing it to rear up and stagger back in pain. The Cleric creates a holy zone where their allies weapons are guided to their targets and whenever an enemy dies the Clerics allies are healed. 4E is about knowing when to lauch your nova attack, whether its a huge arcane spell that causes enemies to whirl around in a chaotic storm, or if its a trained adrenaline surge that causes you to attack many many times with two weapons on a single target, or a surge of adrenaline that keeps you going though you should already be dead. Its about tactics and the inability to carry around a bag of potions or a few wands and never have to worry about healing. Its about the guy that can barely role play having the same chance to convince the king to aid the group as the guy that takes improv acting classes and regularly stars as an extra on movies.
Stormwind Fallacy
The Stormwind Fallacy, aka the Roleplayer vs Rollplayer Fallacy Just because one optimizes his characters mechanically does not mean that they cannot also roleplay, and vice versa. Corollary: Doing one in a game does not preclude, nor infringe upon, the ability to do the other in the same game. Generalization 1: One is not automatically a worse role player if he optimizes, and vice versa. Generalization 2: A non-optimized character is not automatically role played better than an optimized one, and vice versa. ...[aside]... Proof: These two elements rely on different aspects of a player's game play. Optimization factors in to how well one understands the rules and handles synergies to produce a very effective end result. Role playing deals with how well a player can act in character and behave as if he was someone else. A person can act while understanding the rules, and can build something powerful while still handling an effective character. There is nothing in the game -- mechanical or otherwise -- restricting one if you participate in the other. Claiming that an optimizer cannot role play (or is participating in a play style that isn't supportive of role playing) because he is an optimizer, or vice versa, is committing the Stormwind Fallacy.
The spells we should getLook here to Check out my adventures and ideas. I've started a blog, about video games, table top role playing games, programming, and many other things its called Kel and Lok Games. My 4E Fantasy Grounds game is currently full.
Hey, you wanted Christian killing gay people. you got you example.

All it shows is that the heart of the problem is religion. Get rid of it and you get rid of a lot of violence and intolerance. Now I can't have much of an impact on the middle east, but I certain can try to civilize the superstitious in my own culture.



What episode of south park is the one that has the futurist atheists going to war over a philosophy in a world devoid of religion?



What does south park have to do with anything?



They demonstrated a world without religion and it turns out people will go to war over differing opinions when religion is missing. Religion is an excuse...Smile
"Unite the [fan] base? Hardly. As of right now, I doubt their ability to unite a slightly unruly teabag with a cup of water."--anjelika
1-4E play style
The 4E play style is a high action cinematic style of play where characters worry less about being killed in one hit and more about strategy and what their next move is and the one after it. The players talk back and forth about planning a battle and who can do what to influence the outcome. 4E play is filled with cinematic over the top action. An Eladrin teleports out of the grip of the Ogre. The Fighter slams the dragons foot with his hammer causing it to rear up and stagger back in pain. The Cleric creates a holy zone where their allies weapons are guided to their targets and whenever an enemy dies the Clerics allies are healed. 4E is about knowing when to lauch your nova attack, whether its a huge arcane spell that causes enemies to whirl around in a chaotic storm, or if its a trained adrenaline surge that causes you to attack many many times with two weapons on a single target, or a surge of adrenaline that keeps you going though you should already be dead. Its about tactics and the inability to carry around a bag of potions or a few wands and never have to worry about healing. Its about the guy that can barely role play having the same chance to convince the king to aid the group as the guy that takes improv acting classes and regularly stars as an extra on movies.
Stormwind Fallacy
The Stormwind Fallacy, aka the Roleplayer vs Rollplayer Fallacy Just because one optimizes his characters mechanically does not mean that they cannot also roleplay, and vice versa. Corollary: Doing one in a game does not preclude, nor infringe upon, the ability to do the other in the same game. Generalization 1: One is not automatically a worse role player if he optimizes, and vice versa. Generalization 2: A non-optimized character is not automatically role played better than an optimized one, and vice versa. ...[aside]... Proof: These two elements rely on different aspects of a player's game play. Optimization factors in to how well one understands the rules and handles synergies to produce a very effective end result. Role playing deals with how well a player can act in character and behave as if he was someone else. A person can act while understanding the rules, and can build something powerful while still handling an effective character. There is nothing in the game -- mechanical or otherwise -- restricting one if you participate in the other. Claiming that an optimizer cannot role play (or is participating in a play style that isn't supportive of role playing) because he is an optimizer, or vice versa, is committing the Stormwind Fallacy.
The spells we should getLook here to Check out my adventures and ideas. I've started a blog, about video games, table top role playing games, programming, and many other things its called Kel and Lok Games. My 4E Fantasy Grounds game is currently full.
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Hey, you wanted Christian killing gay people. you got you example.

All it shows is that the heart of the problem is religion. Get rid of it and you get rid of a lot of violence and intolerence. Now I can't have much of an impact on the middle east, but I certain can try to civilize the superstitious in my own culture.



What episode of south park is the one that has the futurist atheists going to war over a philosophy in a world devoid of religion?

Go God Go.

It has OTTers.

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How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
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