Lair of the Evil DM

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So, this thread is about how to really be unequivocally evil, vile, and nasty to your players and killing them off or screwing them over in the most unsuspecting of ways.

I haven't tried this one myself, but it's a story I heard from another DM some years ago:

"They hunted down the black dragon and when the time came, they equipped themselves with the old acid immune armor. I deemed that while the armor was immune, they were not. The acid seeped through the cracks in the armor and melted the PCs"

Another one was:

"They made a wish from a genie for millions of gold pieces. They got their wish. But afterwards, a man in a strange black suit and tie appears before them bearing a strange pad with numbers and a roll of paper sticking out of it. One by one he started punching the keys and adding numbers on the device. After he was done, he presented them with their taxes and they were allowed to keep 1% of their gold before the tax man and all the gold disappeared"

I think my own personal best has to be the time my own players managed to secure a wish from a genasi and he screwed them over by leaving them a bag of painted leaves, or something to that effect because of the bad wording they used in making the wish. Boy were they angry...lmao ^_^

Note, this thread is mostly in jest. I would not normally support these antics, but I feel the board could use a thread differing from the usual rigamarole. 
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The worst thing I ever did to my group was let them get to the final encounter of the campaign, and find out, too late, that they'd played right into the villain's hands and brought about the catastrophe they were trying to prevent.

I felt very bad about this afterwards.

It wasn't supposed to happen that way. They were going to get clues and stuff that would give them a reasonable chance of guessing what was going to happen and preventing it. But one of the players did something totally unexpected and managed to make himself into an evil demi-god. He was then in a position to get the party to do what he wanted, derailing my planned hints and such.

I partially regret letting him become the demi-god, but he knew what he was getting into, both IC and OOC. I really regret not thinking up a new way to warn the party, that he didn't have control over. I thought of a good one about a month after the campaign ended. At the time, I was under a lot of stress from various angles, tired of both D&D and real life, and completely drained of creativity. The best option would have been to take a two or three week break and play board games, then come back at it. If I'm ever in that situation again, that's what I'll do. Or better yet, don't let a pvp situation develop such that there's no one player I can talk to out of character to help me come up with ideas.

However, the aftermath of that story resulted in some of the best tie-ins between campaigns we've ever had. We went back later and defeated the demi-god, put a different PC in his place but without him becoming evil, restored my character's family honor, and retconned some seriously cool details about Monkey Island. And I intend to use some of this in the upcoming campaign. So, it turned out nicely.
JTheta, I wouldn't feel guilty about that. Sounds like an awesome plot twist, I would be delighted if that happened to me as a player.


Back on topic, I remember once  giving the enemies in a Star wars encounter (3 Quarrens with blaster rifles) a aldnspeeder equipped with a blaster cannon, so they zoomed around the party and behind building and were nigh untouchable, as well as providing them with two sniper droids with various extra cover bonuses who took shots at the PCs from across the street, prone on a rooftop.
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
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I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Arrows of humanslaying.

Just sayin'. 
The worst thing I ever did to my group was let them get to the final encounter of the campaign, and find out, too late, that they'd played right into the villain's hands and brought about the catastrophe they were trying to prevent.

I felt very bad about this afterwards.

It wasn't supposed to happen that way. They were going to get clues and stuff that would give them a reasonable chance of guessing what was going to happen and preventing it. But one of the players did something totally unexpected and managed to make himself into an evil demi-god. He was then in a position to get the party to do what he wanted, derailing my planned hints and such.

I partially regret letting him become the demi-god, but he knew what he was getting into, both IC and OOC. I really regret not thinking up a new way to warn the party, that he didn't have control over. I thought of a good one about a month after the campaign ended. At the time, I was under a lot of stress from various angles, tired of both D&D and real life, and completely drained of creativity. The best option would have been to take a two or three week break and play board games, then come back at it. If I'm ever in that situation again, that's what I'll do. Or better yet, don't let a pvp situation develop such that there's no one player I can talk to out of character to help me come up with ideas.

However, the aftermath of that story resulted in some of the best tie-ins between campaigns we've ever had. We went back later and defeated the demi-god, put a different PC in his place but without him becoming evil, restored my character's family honor, and retconned some seriously cool details about Monkey Island. And I intend to use some of this in the upcoming campaign. So, it turned out nicely.



As Corran stated, if it turned out well and awesome things came about from it...then no harm no foul. It's actually pretty cool that DMs can turn their wickedness around on a dime and make something amazing happen from that.

JTheta, I wouldn't feel guilty about that. Sounds like an awesome plot twist, I would be delighted if that happened to me as a player.


Back on topic, I remember once  giving the enemies in a Star wars encounter (3 Quarrens with blaster rifles) a aldnspeeder equipped with a blaster cannon, so they zoomed around the party and behind building and were nigh untouchable, as well as providing them with two sniper droids with various extra cover bonuses who took shots at the PCs from across the street, prone on a rooftop.
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Please tell me the driver of the landspeeder had Luke's ability to hit whomp rats...please please please!

Arrows of humanslaying.

Just sayin'. 



lmfao. Humanoid or specifically humans? Otherwise, I'll be making some for those damn dirty tree hugging elf hippies too...heh heh heh. >:D
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Even better-the landspeeder drove itself, AND had Luke's uncany shooting prowess. It controlled its own blaster cannon. (Three 20s. Just sayin'....)
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
Even better-the landspeeder drove itself, AND had Luke's uncany shooting prowess. It controlled its own blaster cannon. (Three 20s. Just sayin'....)



I can see the force is strong with this one. I pity the sith master that taught you. For his demise will be...untimely.
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!) *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with cane* and yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb. http://asylumjournals.tumblr.com/

   I once had a Professor Moriarty-type villain who used all the party's weaknesses and personal traits against them... He was only a lieutenant of a lieutenant of the BBEG of the campaign, but the party hated him with a fiery passion and would probably have even agreed to just let the BBEG win if he turned this guy over to them.

 He switched out the fighter's armor and sword for cursed items. He framed the rogue for a crime that he'd committed. He stole and burned the wizard's spellbook (actually just a copy, but they didn't know that...). Almost got the cleric excommunicated from her church by engineering a scandal. Let the prissy, uptight paragon-of-virtue paladin chase him through the streets in her underwear for half an hour until she heroically tackled an old lady out of the way of a speeding wagon - an old lady who turned out to be the villain in disguise, who promptly ran her through with a shortsword and then kissed her while she bled out in the street.

 They finally got him, but he put them through the ringer - I honestly thought they were going to kill him, violate the body and then resurrect him to do it again, but they actually turned him over to the authorities and set everything straight.

 The party loved the adventure, but the next time I had a horse and wagon get out of control the paladin's player looked at me like she was going to strangle me, and she never trusted an old lady again.

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I am the Magic Man.

(Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.)

 

I am the Lawnmower Man.

(I AM GOD HERE!)

 

I am the Skull God.

(Koo Koo Ka Choo)

 

There are reasons they call me Mad...

They were specifically humanslaying (mostly to mess with the 2e paladin). 

An equally jerk move was the ambush by a pair of vampires with wearing cloaks of improved invisibility.

I really can't defend any of these choices other than that I was young and the players were irritating. 

   I once had a Professor Moriarty-type villain who used all the party's weaknesses and personal traits against them... He was only a lieutenant of a lieutenant of the BBEG of the campaign, but the party hated him with a fiery passion and would probably have even agreed to just let the BBEG win if he turned this guy over to them.

 He switched out the fighter's armor and sword for cursed items. He framed the rogue for a crime that he'd committed. He stole and burned the wizard's spellbook (actually just a copy, but they didn't know that...). Almost got the cleric excommunicated from her church by engineering a scandal. Let the prissy, uptight paragon-of-virtue paladin chase him through the streets in her underwear for half an hour until she heroically tackled an old lady out of the way of a speeding wagon - an old lady who turned out to be the villain in disguise, who promptly ran her through with a shortsword and then kissed her while she bled out in the street.

 They finally got him, but he put them through the ringer - I honestly thought they were going to kill him, violate the body and then resurrect him to do it again, but they actually turned him over to the authorities and set everything straight.

 The party loved the adventure, but the next time I had a horse and wagon get out of control the paladin's player looked at me like she was going to strangle me, and she never trusted an old lady again.




My players have a similar distrust of elderly men in my campaigns. They once attacked an old man that hired them to do a job. They misunderstood the bargain he offered, and they attacked him in anger. ...the old man was an ancient red dragon in disguise. Okay, so maybe that was my best one...but I swear I gave them every hint in the book beforehand that he was a dragon. :/

You also just reminded me of my Ogre Mage who consistently trumped them in battle and got away. But before doing so, during any adventure in which he appeared, he would seriously wreck their s*** and completely ruin whatever goal it was they were trying to accomplish. They still have it out for that Ogre Mage. He may have to make a reappearance in this new campaign of mine. I remember giving him special chainmail that had no arcane spell fail chance and some various other bonuses to boost his abilities. And it could adapt with his instant mist ability that allowed him to escape all those times. So he never lost it. I eventually even gave him PC class levels to make him more threatening. xD 
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!) *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with cane* and yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb. http://asylumjournals.tumblr.com/
Even better-the landspeeder drove itself, AND had Luke's uncany shooting prowess. It controlled its own blaster cannon. (Three 20s. Just sayin'....)



I can see the force is strong with this one. I pity the sith master that taught you. For his demise will be...untimely.



Mwahaha, did you ever hear the tale of Darth Plagueis....? That apprentice...wasn't me....really!


As an aside, I once remember putting the players  in an underwater fight with  scuba-esue gear , not realizing that one of the players had just agonized about whether or not to waterproof his lightsaber at the market, and ultimately deciding not to.  
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141722973 wrote:
And it wasn't ****. It was subjectively concensual sex.
57036828 wrote:
Marketing and design are two different things. For instance the snuggy was designed for people in wheel chairs and marketed to people that are too incompetent to operate a blanket.
75239035 wrote:
I personally don't want him decapitated.
141722973 wrote:
And do not call me a Yank. I am a Québecois, basically your better.
And the greatest post moderation of all time...
58115148 wrote:
I gave that (Content Removed) a to-scale Lego replica. (Content Removed) love to-scale Lego replicas. (ORC_Cerberus: Edited - Vulgarity is against the Code of Conduct)
JTheta, I wouldn't feel guilty about that. Sounds like an awesome plot twist, I would be delighted if that happened to me as a player.



There were some hard feelings on the part of other players, who felt like they'd been tricked in a way that violated our understood GM/player agreement and in a way that they couldn't possibly have anticipated. If I'd set it up better, I could have had the same outcome without the hard feelings. 

"They hunted down the black dragon and when the time came, they equipped themselves with the old acid immune armor. I deemed that while the armor was immune, they were not. The acid seeped through the cracks in the armor and melted the PCs"

Another one was:

"They made a wish from a genie for millions of gold pieces. They got their wish. But afterwards, a man in a strange black suit and tie appears before them bearing a strange pad with numbers and a roll of paper sticking out of it. One by one he started punching the keys and adding numbers on the device. After he was done, he presented them with their taxes and they were allowed to keep 1% of their gold before the tax man and all the gold disappeared"



Those examples seem really douchey.  Almost as douchey as holding a contest for best waitress, with a Toyota as a prize, only for the winner to discover that you actually meant a toy Yoda.

"They hunted down the black dragon and when the time came, they equipped themselves with the old acid immune armor. I deemed that while the armor was immune, they were not. The acid seeped through the cracks in the armor and melted the PCs"

Another one was:

"They made a wish from a genie for millions of gold pieces. They got their wish. But afterwards, a man in a strange black suit and tie appears before them bearing a strange pad with numbers and a roll of paper sticking out of it. One by one he started punching the keys and adding numbers on the device. After he was done, he presented them with their taxes and they were allowed to keep 1% of their gold before the tax man and all the gold disappeared"



Those examples seem really douchey.  Almost as douchey as holding a contest for best waitress, with a Toyota as a prize, only for the winner to discover that you actually meant a toy Yoda.



You realize of course, that was the point of doing those things? This is about how to be a real jerk to players, mostly for comedic value, but...anyway, yeah...of course it's douchey. That's the point! xD
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!) *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with cane* and yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb. http://asylumjournals.tumblr.com/
Those examples seem really douchey.

Exactly. Here's another one from the original description of the Wish spell (AD&D PHB 1e): "Regardless of what is wished for, the exact terminology of the wish spell is likely to be carried through. (This discretionary power of the referee is necessary in order to maintain game balance. As wishing another character dead would be grossly unfair, for example, your DM might well advance the spell caster to a future period where the object is no longer alive, i.e. putting the wishing character out of the campaign.)"

Or per the 3.5e description of the Wish spell: '(The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment.) For example, wishing for a staff of the magi might get you instantly transported to the presence of the staff’s current owner. Wishing to be immortal could get you imprisoned in a hidden extradimensional space (as by an imprisonment spell), where you could "live" indefinitely.'
Just thought of a classic.

"Okay he hits you, time to roll for damage" *DM pulls out bucket of dice* 
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!) *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with cane* and yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb. http://asylumjournals.tumblr.com/
I love picking up handfulls of dice for damage rolls

There's a creature in 4e, I've forgotten which one, which has an ability that does 2d20 ongoing. I loved the look on my player's face when I rolled that. 
I love picking up handfulls of dice for damage rolls

There's a creature in 4e, I've forgotten which one, which has an ability that does 2d20 ongoing. I loved the look on my player's face when I rolled that. 



The Beholder Eye Tyrant's disintegration ray.  I was just looking at it
My players a few campaigns back went up against an outcast drow cleric who kept 3 healing potions and a vial of poison on his belt, all with glowing phosphorunt mushrooms ground into them in order to make them look the same. After being careful to experiment with the first two and discovering they were healing potions, they let their guard down. Needless to say, the next character that fell to -3 HP and got dosed with the CON damaging "healing potion" didn't make it out of the dungeon under their own power.
My players a few campaigns back went up against an outcast drow cleric who kept 3 healing potions and a vial of poison on his belt, all with glowing phosphorunt mushrooms ground into them in order to make them look the same. After being careful to experiment with the first two and discovering they were healing potions, they let their guard down. Needless to say, the next character that fell to -3 HP and got dosed with the CON damaging "healing potion" didn't make it out of the dungeon under their own power.



This is so very evil and delicious. I may use this...mwuhahahaha...
My username should actually read: Lunar Savage (damn you WotC!) *Tips top hat, adjusts monocle, and walks away with cane* and yes, that IS Mr. Peanut laying unconscious on the curb. http://asylumjournals.tumblr.com/
Group of assassins (their jobs, not their classes) contracted to kill the PCs. Greater invisibility while on the ethereal plane, and transdimensional spell. Just as they were waking up from sleep, finger of death the wizard, implosion the rogue, dominate the fighter, rhino's rush charging smite the cleric. I was bored and their reactions were worth it. Don't judge okay? Some of these had to break etherealness to work but they still got surprise due to awareness rules.
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