Double Strike on Player

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Hello all just a brief question that's on my mind. Does double strike apply to players, or just while against other creatures? Thanks to all who answer!
Yes, double strike will still cause the creature to deal damage during both First and Normal attack phases.
Double Strike means the creature participates in both the First Strike damage Combat Damage Step and the normal damage Combat Damage Step. It has nothing to do with what is being attacked, so yes, it does apply when attacking players.

Of note, if the double striker doesn't have trample, and it kills all of its blocker in the First Strike damage Combat Damage Step, it won't deal any damage in the normal damage Combat Damage Step.
Hello all just a brief question that's on my mind. Does double strike apply to players, or just while against other creatures? Thanks to all who answer!

Don't forget Planeswalkers!

The way double strike works:

It's actually related to first strike, hence the similar name. When the combat damage step rolls in, if there are any creatures with first strike or double strike, there are two combat damage steps instead of one. In the first one, only creatures with first strike or double strike assign combat damage. In the second, "normal" one, creatures with double strike and creatures that didn't get to assign damage in the first step (mostly creatures without either ability) assign combat damage.

This is true no matter if there is any blocking going on. A creature with double strike that's unblocked and unimpended deals combat damage to the defending player or planeswalker twice.

Note that if the "first hit" from a double striker kills its blocker(s), there is no second hit at all unless that double striker also has trample. A creature that got blocked cannot assign combat damage to the defending player or planeswalker unless it has trample or a similar ability.
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A bit off topic, but say a creature that does damage when it dies (example Goblin Arsonist) is given Tainted Strike, does combat damage, then is sacrificed via fling, does all this damage as infect due to Tainted Strike?
A bit off topic, but say a creature that does damage when it dies (example Goblin Arsonist) is given Tainted Strike, does combat damage, then is sacrificed via fling, does all this damage as infect due to Tainted Strike?

Arsonist's damage, yes. But not Fling's!

702.88d If a permanent leaves the battlefield before an effect causes it to deal damage, its last known information is used to determine whether it had infect.

Goblin Arsonist
Tainted Strike
Fling

A bit off topic,

Quite. Don't be afraid to start new threads.

say a creature that does damage when it dies (example Goblin Arsonist) is given Tainted Strike, does combat damage, then is sacrificed via fling, does all this damage as infect due to Tainted Strike?

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[C]Goblin Arsonist[/C] ⇒ [C]Goblin Arsonist[/C]
[C]Tainted Strike[/C]
[C]Fling[/C]

The key is finding out what actually deals the damage.

The damage dealt from the Arsonist dying is dealt by the Arsonist. ("have it deal 1 damage") The Arsonist has infect, so it's indeed "damage dealt by a source with infect".

When a creature is flung it doesn't deal any damage. It's [C]Fling[/C] that's dealing the damage. ("Fling deals damage equal to...") Fling doesn't have infect, so it won't be "damage dealt by a source with infect."

702.88b Damage dealt to a player by a source with infect doesn’t cause that player to lose life. Rather, it causes the player to get that many poison counters. See rule 119.3.

702.88c Damage dealt to a creature by a source with infect isn’t marked on that creature. Rather, it causes that many -1/-1 counters to be put on that creature. See rule 119.3.

Okay thanks!