I am a total super-noob to D&D. Just some quick advice needed. :)

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Hello everyone, my name is Noah and I am (*FINALLY*) getting into D&D. I never got into it as a kid because of various reasons, but now here I am (24 years old if you're wondering) and I cannot wait to start my adventuring!

I have 2-3 other friends who are interested in learning the game and I figured we can all start together. My question is: Is it worth it to spend a lot of money on 4e stuff? Or should we wait until the next edition (if there is one? I'm sorry, like I said, I'm a noob) comes out? I don't quite understand the ebb & flow of the D&D universe, so I don't know what exactly to buy. My goal right now is to just get my hands on a Player's handbook and start from there (or maybe some other starter set if I can find one).

So yeah, TL:DR: Should I wait until a new edition of D&D comes out? Or is it okay to get a lot of the 4e stuff?

Thank you so much for helping a little nooblet!! I apologize if this is in the wrong forum, any mods can feel free to move it to the correct location!

Hope to be a part of this awesome community!

-Noah
Well, yes, there's another edition coming out but it's only the begining of playtesting right now.

You could begin with the playtesting module!
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Well, yes, there's another edition coming out but it's only the begining of playtesting right now.

You could begin with the playtesting module!

Would that be better for an absolute beginner? My only real concern is spending a lot of money on 4e stuff, only have it be replaced shortly after. I mean, I know that eventually it will get replaced, but I just don't want it to be the day after I buy all the 4e stuff Tongue Out.

Thanks for your reply!
 

I'd buy the 4e box set, and just use that. DND Next (5e) is coming out relatively soon and buying more than that would probably be a waste of money. It won't be backwards compatable at all if the playtests are any indication.


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Go for a used copy, and you might consider 2-3 players handbooks. Otherwise just the Monster manual, dungeon masters guide and 2-3 player handbooks. 

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5th edition might come out in 2014... ( Nothing 100% sure ) depends how much you wanna spend! You might buy just the core books and have some fun with 4th. Or you can playtest 5th edition free. The rules are simple and will get you in the game!

These rules are incomplete right now but I think that, to learn, it's enough.
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Okay, I went and got all crazy-excited and won a bid on ebay for a D&D lot that consists of 3 players handbooks, the red box starter set, a dungeon masters guide, 1 keep on the shadowfell adventure, 2 thunderspire labyrinth adventures, a version 4 premium DM's screen, and some die. 

It's a pretty big bundle and the guy was selling it for cheap, ($60)...  so between me and my 4 other nooblet friends, I'd say it's a nice start for $15 a person..

Thank you all for your opinions! Very helpful! :D <3 
Don't forget, nobody will be forcing you to give up 4e when 5e comes out.  Have fun with the game, and reassess your options when the next edition actually comes out.  Personally, I still play 3.5, and I know people who still play 2e or even 1e.

I'm glad you got a great deal.  Welcome to the hobby. 
Don't forget, nobody will be forcing you to give up 4e when 5e comes out.  Have fun with the game, and reassess your options when the next edition actually comes out.  Personally, I still play 3.5, and I know people who still play 2e or even 1e.

I'm glad you got a great deal.  Welcome to the hobby. 




Thanks for the warm tidings

Everything I've read so far on D&D has mainly gravitated aroudn 4E, so I'm not sure what anything before 4E was like. Where the next editions completely game-breaking? Is it like a complete overhaul of the game? 

Everything I've read so far on D&D has mainly gravitated aroudn 4E, so I'm not sure what anything before 4E was like. Where the next editions completely game-breaking? Is it like a complete overhaul of the game? 



I don't know anything about "NEXT", but I know the differences between editions in the past have been enormous.  It would be difficult to transition the mechanics between them.  On the other hand, the "fluff", or the fictional background that is not rooted in numbers, can be transitioned more easily.  In that, the more that you play in any edition, the more that your imagination can grow to meet the challenges of role-playing.
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I know you already have the rules but you might want to try teh dnd insider for a month or two. I found teh character builder and monster vault ot be extremely helpful as both a player and DM




Yeah, I was looking at it... I think I might wait until I can get through my first one or two game nights before actually buying it. Thanks though! :D
Noah, check your PM, I think I can help ya out.
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Another quick question: How many sets of dice should I have? I already have one standard 7-piece set, but I know that some rolls require that you roll several dice. I just don't know if I should buy another set or two, or if I should buy individual die. Does it depend on character?
As another noob, I find that you can get by with just the standard 7 piece set, but I went ahead and bought another d6 and d8 because my character uses them when dealing damage. It just depends on the character I'd say. Hope this helps.

 
As another noob, I find that you can get by with just the standard 7 piece set, but I went ahead and bought another d6 and d8 because my character uses them when dealing damage. It just depends on the character I'd say. Hope this helps.

 


Okay cool, what character do you play? I plan on playing a wizard/spell-caster-y type of character.
I have two characters currently.  One night I'm a Psion and the other I'm a Ranger with my bow.  
You can also scavenge d6's (and sometimes other dice) from other board games, so they should be relatively easy to come by. Aside from that, ebay for some quick, cheap sets of dice.
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58115148 wrote:
"You notice a large piece of mold clinging to your toothbrush. What do you do?" "I cast Fireball." "I run like hell!
63797881 wrote:
The standard d4 is somewhat (SOMEWHAT) rounded on the top, the older models are even flat. The Lego is shaped in such a way that in an emergency, you can use one as a makeshift surgical knife.
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My wife asked me if her pants made her look fat. What do you think I said?
Wife: Do these pants make me look fat? RedSiegfried: I just killed a bunch of orc women and children.
63797881 wrote:
82733368 wrote:
28.) Making a "Drunken Master" style character (Monk or otherwise) does not require my character to be completely shitfaced, no matter what the name (and fun interpretation) implies.
29.) Making a "Drunken Master" style character does not require ME to be completely tanked, no matter how "in-character" I want to be..
Another quick question: How many sets of dice should I have? I already have one standard 7-piece set, but I know that some rolls require that you roll several dice. I just don't know if I should buy another set or two, or if I should buy individual die. Does it depend on character?



The 7-piece set is all you really need.

However, it seems like most players, if they have to roll something like 3d8, like to roll three dice at the same time and add them up rather than rolling one die three times. So, you might want to pick up a few extra of whatever your character may need to do those rolls.
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   You probably only need one d20, but you should have at least two of whatever die or dice types your character uses for their damage. If your character never uses a particular die type, you'll only ever need one of them.
( Older editions and some other games used to use two 10-sided dice to generate percentile scores (1-100, or 01-00), but 4E doesn't use percentile at all and even 3.5 didn't use it much.)

 Dice are cheap - if you really want to, you can go online and buy a pound of them for something like $20...
 Six-sided dice in particular are ridiculously easy to find in bulk.

 Chessex sells really nice sets starting at around $3-4 in an astounding variety of colors and patterns from basic primary colors to dice so pretty it's hard to read them.


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Another quick question: How many sets of dice should I have? I already have one standard 7-piece set, but I know that some rolls require that you roll several dice. I just don't know if I should buy another set or two, or if I should buy individual die. Does it depend on character?



Check your FLGS, mine has a large selection of individual dice in varying sizes. They are quite cheap, about 10 cents a pop.
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I would actually advise having two or three d20s for multi-target attacks, or for quickly resolving several simple attacks if you're the DM.

Excepting high level dailies and their equivalent, individual damage entries tend to cap out at four dice, although bonus effects might push the number beyond that.
there is never enough dice... especially once you have a few sets. I have my game science dice for when I gm so that I am "100%" random and my very lucky first d20 for when I really need that crit or good roll. I also have my junk dice that have " failed me for the last time" .

It looks like you have a good start keep on the shadowfell is a good starter as it also distributes the level treasure very well. and you can start the adventure with combat to bring people together. nothing says we should team up like a good old frosty level 1 kobold . 

dont worry too much about the systems people talk of 3.5 but there is another group that has put out material under whats called the open game licence that works with the 3.5. I like 4.0 because it focuses more on the party dynamics then just 1 god like character next to 3 other god like characters who are beating gods 1 on 1. I like that it takes a party to defeat a challange 
Well, yes, there's another edition coming out but it's only the begining of playtesting right now.

You could begin with the playtesting module!

Would that be better for an absolute beginner? My only real concern is spending a lot of money on 4e stuff, only have it be replaced shortly after. I mean, I know that eventually it will get replaced, but I just don't want it to be the day after I buy all the 4e stuff .

Thanks for your reply!
 

 Fortunately, D&D editions are not like video game patches where the new one is (usually) always better than the old one. I personally don't enjoy 4E, and have been playing 3E for a good 7 years. There's also AD&D, 1E, and Pathfinder which are all essentially different flavors of the same game. Each one has its benefits and disadvantages and each one caters to a different type of player. For you I still would reccommend 4E though because it's very concise and noob-friendly. Plus, books are still in print and there will be plenty of supplements out now, and plenty still to come. PLUS, it probably has the largest player-base of all the editions.
Ok so people know this, I stopped buying new editions with version 3.5. I started with the old basic system in the early 1980's, then went to 1st edition AD&D, then got crazy excited over 2nd edition (a big improvement over 1st edition) and bought up all of it over a few years time. 3rd edition and 3.5 were even better than 2nd edition. All that money on these, plus 2 different editions of Rolemaster, GURPS, Hero system, and other games, and I'm just not spending the money on another version of D&D.

Find a version you like, and stick with that.
Hello everyone, my name is Noah and I am (*FINALLY*) getting into D&D. I never got into it as a kid because of various reasons, but now here I am (24 years old if you're wondering) and I cannot wait to start my adventuring!

I have 2-3 other friends who are interested in learning the game and I figured we can all start together. My question is: Is it worth it to spend a lot of money on 4e stuff? Or should we wait until the next edition (if there is one? I'm sorry, like I said, I'm a noob) comes out? I don't quite understand the ebb & flow of the D&D universe, so I don't know what exactly to buy. My goal right now is to just get my hands on a Player's handbook and start from there (or maybe some other starter set if I can find one).

So yeah, TL:DR: Should I wait until a new edition of D&D comes out? Or is it okay to get a lot of the 4e stuff?

Thank you so much for helping a little nooblet!! I apologize if this is in the wrong forum, any mods can feel free to move it to the correct location!

Hope to be a part of this awesome community!

-Noah



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