I really feel like both of today's decks ignore the word "budget" in the column's title. The first deck uses 20 rares and the second uses 14 and 4 mythics.
I really feel like both of today's decks ignore the word "budget" in the column's title. The first deck uses 20 rares and the second uses 14 and 4 mythics. They seem like cool decks, but I could just play something really Tier I for that price, like Delver or Ramp. To me, this column should be more as it was in JMS's excellent run, in which no expensive rares would be used and rares in general kept to a minimum. This column just feels like a general tournament-focused deck-building column, not anything designed for budget players.
I do like the idea of blinking Sunblast Angel.
Contemporary Magic design is such that "Chase Mythics" exist and thus become the core of tier 1 decks. I don't particularly like this, but given that it's so I must agree that any deck not using those chase cards is "budget" by comparison.
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Loose with the term budget is an understatement. A $100 deck is not a budget deck. Period. He should respect the fact that most budget players are making decks that cost somewhere around 30-50 dollars max. Going twice that is just irresponsibly ignorant to the budget building community.I'm not saying he should be setting a maximum dollar value or rare limit to decks. But Plopping 4 Venser's in a deck without a second guess, or adding 2 Damnations or other crap he's done in the past is just getting frustrating. I like JVL's originality and deck ideas...Some of the time. His deck using the card Annex and his Pyromancer Ascension decks where both great articles. But it's like for every one good deck he makes, we get a myriad of other over budget, unplaytested, or illegal decks (like his ponder blunder a month ago). This column has the unique ability to provide budget players (There are a lot of us) with what should be a professional take on budget deckbuilding. That is hard to find elsewhere on the internet. Most people just make crazy expensive decks and chuck $40+ rares in left right and centre. And trying to filter through fandecks that are even half decent and are also budget is a nightmare. So us budget players come here with wide eyes and childlike hope that a professional can help us solve our budget woes.I really feel like at times JVL doesn't appreciate this distinction very much and just lazily pushes out one article after another.I say it's high time he either figures out how to write these articles consistently, or we get a new author (or bring back BB).
my vote is for that tandem deck you made 2 weeks ago. i'd like to see that deck with red creatures like goblin fireslinger, pyreheart wolf, and/or hellrideras for the acceptable choices im with the WU one altough you went way over the budget, i mean im okay when you use 5$ cards like hellrider or double lands because just assuming that people probably have atleast four and if they're not in the right color then they can just trade for diferent color combo. but when you put 4 planeswalkers into a BUDGET deck it realy bugs me
Are people really complaining that this isn't a budget deck because of the -number- of rares in it? Do you people really not realize that not all rares are priced the same?Venser isn't used in anything, and we just got a Duel Deck with him in it. The high-point NM price on Star City is $8, so you should be able to pick up a playset for like $20 easily, and that's without trading for any.Sunblast Angel is a $0.50 rare that you can pick up 4-for-a-dollar in most places.Restoration Angel is worth $5 preorder, but she's the freaking release promo, and judging by preorder prices is always a fool's errand anyway. This is another card you can pick up for basically nothing.The only rares worth anything in this deck are the Days and the Blade Splicers which are $2-3 a pop. Everything else is common/uncommon. If you spend more than $40 building this entire deck you got ripped off. And if $40 isn't budget, then I'm sorry for you.The Green deck isn't bad either. Dungrove is $3 a pop and Predator Ooze, Wolfir Silverheart, Champion of Lambholt, and Ulvenvald Tracker are all sub-$2. The only pricey card is Birds of Paradise, but they've been printed so many times it's almost irrelevant. This whole deck costs like $20 to make.I've seen Pauper decks that cost more then these. Seriously people, there is no way you can complain that these aren't budget.
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$8 x 4 Vensers is $32 plus shipping. $0.50 x 4 is $2. Assuming the price of something is going to go down to support your arguement is flawed. It is just as possible that the Angel will jump from $5 to $10. I agree that the number of rares shouldn't matter, just the price. But, your math just doesn't add up. :-)
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