[AVR-ICD] Treacherous Pit-Dweller

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This is kind of interesting but I doubt it will be constructed playable.

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Agreed.  I certainly love the design of it though.
Now this intrigues me. Combo with the Cage? Might not find any place, but at least it is interesting.
This card makes me really sad that the Commander cards aren't legal in Modern. This would be nasty with Homeward Path.
Nah, just use Grafdigger's Cage T1, then this T2. Boom-de-ada. 
Well, black decks do need a strong 2 drop in Standard anyway... right?
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Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
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Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
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This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
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Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
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I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
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Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
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WOAH wait wait wait
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You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
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"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
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The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
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The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
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Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
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You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
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You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
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I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
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Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
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I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
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to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
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when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
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Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
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It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
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I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
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These are the kinds of cards that frustrate and delight me at the same time.
I didn't know the design team was run by a 2 year old.
I didn't know the design team was run by a 2 year old.


Now you're just being negative for no reason...
this little rascal needs to be branded.  no but really thats impractical.
Nah, just use Grafdigger's Cage T1, then this T2. Boom-de-ada. 

But I want him to come back...
Bad card is bad. Stop teasing me, Wizards.

Edit - nevermind

This guy is probably going to taste Despotic Scepter to the face.

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Feels a lot like Abyssal Persecutor: Just make sure to keep removal. Problem though is that you get 2 for 1ed if you waste removal after it dies to their removal.
It's quite good against a lot of the most common removal in Standard.  Merits consideration.
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Why yes, I WILL enjoy have a turn 2  7/6 with no drawback! (other than the convoluted god-handy setup)

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3 cards isn't as god-hand-y as some of the "make it work" shenanigains, and I'm decently sure there are substitutes for the Cantor (though not 100%)

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THE COALITION WAR GAME -Phyrexian Chief Praetor
Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

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3 cards isn't as god-hand-y as some of the "make it work" shenanigains, and I'm decently sure there are substitutes for the Cantor (though not 100%)



5 cards, 2 lands. But yeah not nearly as god hand as some.
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3 cards isn't as god-hand-y as some of the "make it work" shenanigains, and I'm decently sure there are substitutes for the Cantor (though not 100%)

Yeah, but it's a five card combo to power out a vanilla 7/6 which is kind of pathetic. You may as well just play Hunted Horror at that point. The pro green centaurs are less of a hurdle.
I like how Wizards are subtly implying that the Angels will win this war, by making the Angels all-upside undercosted or fairly costed evasive bombs, and making all the demons terrible unplayable cards with huge drawbacks.

Wait, did I say subtly? 
He wants to be in an anti-black deck. You either want to play cage with him which is anti-graveyard (black likes graveyard manipulation, you know), you don't want to sacrifice him(black likes to sacrifice , you know) because well your opponents just get him, but he his bigger and badder. He is just so bleh. Any board wipe(which is a staple of white - DoJ and red - Slagstorm) clears your board and gives them a 5/4 beater to hit you with next turn and then to fix it you have to waste a kill card. So the opponent uses one card to clear your field, gain a 4-turn clock beater and will make you waste a card to stop taking 5 damage to the face next turn. Interesting design, but poor execution, shame on you Wizards. I am begging you please one good zombie. I mean really half of black's rare slots thsi set have been taken by expensive gimmicky enchantments. So unless black gets a heartless summoning for enchantments, please reveal some good creatures.
I didn't know the design team was run by a 2 year old.



Are you telling me a 2yo came up with a pretty Repercussion target for MP / EDH? Clever 2yo.

In all seriousness, this is a Multiplayer deck that is gaining some traction. Repercussion, Glacial Chasm, hose the board with Earthquakes. It usually runs Forbidden Orchard to hand people creatures. This? This is just gravy...
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He wants to be in an anti-black deck. You either want to play cage with him which is anti-graveyard (black likes graveyard manipulation, you know), you don't want to sacrifice him(black likes to sacrifice , you know) because well your opponents just get him, but he his bigger and badder. He is just so bleh. Any board wipe(which is a staple of white - DoJ and red - Slagstorm) clears your board and gives them a 5/4 beater to hit you with next turn and then to fix it you have to waste a kill card. So the opponent uses one card to clear your field, gain a 4-turn clock beater and will make you waste a card to stop taking 5 damage to the face next turn. Interesting design, but poor execution, shame on you Wizards. I am begging you please one good zombie. I mean really half of black's rare slots thsi set have been taken by expensive gimmicky enchantments. So unless black gets a heartless summoning for enchantments, please reveal some good creatures.


Note that if your sac outlet can be activated at instant speed, you can do it in response to his CiP trigger on recurring from undying, and your opponent will never get the 5/4 beater.

Opponent: Bolt the demon!  Now I get it!
Vampire Aristocrat: *munch*
Opponent:

"Enjoy your screams, Sarpadia - they will soon be muffled beneath snow and ice."
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THE COALITION WAR GAME -Phyrexian Chief Praetor
Round 1: (4-1-2, 1 kill)
Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920

Culling Dais! YES. My favorite two-mana artifact in Standard. And it turns into a card later on!
This thing is sweet.  Very flavorful and quite good.
Come on you guys, quit trying to sugarcoat a turd. This is bad design. Undying is supposed to benefit YOU, not your opponent.
Well now, bad design is a bit harsh. It's flavorful and unique. The term you're looking for is this: absolutely useless garbage in constructed.
It's a 4/3 for 2 mana, of course it has to have a drawback.
Come on you guys, quit trying to sugarcoat a turd. This is bad design. Undying is supposed to benefit YOU, not your opponent.


Except for it's decent design in that it uses a new mechanic to continue the huge creature for undercosted price with a drawback archetype and like most of the archetype he's even designed in a way that players who want to use him can easily negate his drawback.

Just about every post I've seen of yours seems to be a harshly negative review of a card or claiming WOTC seems to be screwing black over, have you thought that it might just be time for you to take a break from Magic since you can't seem to find anything enjoyable within the new blocks?
I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.

Flavourful though.
this is quite the interesting card.
well if you have graf cage in play than it can't give itself to the oppenent...
Saccing it on the stack seems the best solution in black, now here's to hoping they print a black one drop sac outlet
Culling Dais! YES. My favorite two-mana artifact in Standard. And it turns into a card later on!



I love Culling Dais as well.  Use it in my Boros Sun Titan deck to toss my ETB targets back in the graveyard.

For this demon (if I intended to play it), Fling would be another good option.  Beat for 4 until they have an answer or trade with a blocker, then toss it in their face for 5 more damage.  "Why yes, you DO get it when it comes back with undying... not like you wanted it though!" :laugh:
If you have a way to give it a token before dying it won't come back, either. It is a nice little two drop with a drawback that is entirely manageable.
No one else reminded of Goblin Cadet? Even that found a deck.

Disregarding playability though, this isn't bad design. Making a supposedly all upside effect a drawback in favor of another upside effect requires some creativity.
i'm pretty confident it's a bad card (in terms of power level),


but i tend to rate card design in terms of how much a card makes me want to look through/think through what else is available in the format that could support it.   this pushes somewhere around the 80th to 90th percentile (of cards in an average set); i couldn't quite be bothered to open gatherer, but i did ponder for a spell.