[AVR-ICD] Reforge the Soul

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Reforge the Soul 3RR
Sorcery {R}
Each player discards his or her hands and draws seven cards
Miracle 1R

For red when your hand is empty it's a draw 7. Yeah I'll take that. These miracle cards are looking pretty sweet, I'm liking them. I'd hardcast this easy.


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"Man that Tibalt is such a saucy lad, he won't even be able to use his second ability until turn 5."
"Indeed. Hey what's the nonmiracle cost of that card again?" 

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Funny story: InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game. I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul: Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?" Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy." Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb." Me: "*Sigh*. Okay." I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board. Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious.
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Hi guys! So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic. I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked. Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon. Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in. Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play. I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's. However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks. I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real. I want to begin playing it as a regular. My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck? Or are there special rules? Are some cards forbidden or restricted? Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol.
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Oh I have a standing rule. If someone plays a Planeswalker I concede the game. I refuse to play with or against people who play Planeswalkers. They really did ruin the game.
A turn two Tibalt win?! Wicked... Betcha don't see that everyday.

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And that's why you should never, ever call RP Jesus on being a troll, because then everyone else playing along gets outed, too, and the thread goes back to being boring.
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See, this is why RPJesus should be in charge of the storyline. The novel line would never have been cancelled if he had been running the show. Specifically the Slobad and Geth's Head talkshow he just described.
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Not only was that an obligatory joke, it was an on-topic post that still managed to be off-topic due to thread derailment. RP Jesus does it again folks.
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I think I'm gonna' start praying to Jesus... That's right, RPJesus, I'm gonna' be praying to you, right now. O' Jesus Please continue to make my time here on the forums fun and cause me to chuckle. Amen.
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It was wonderful. Us Johnnies had a field day. That Timmy with the Grizzly bears would actually have to think about swinging into your Mogg Fanatic, giving you time to set up your silly combo. Nowadays it's all DERPSWING! with thier blue jeans and their MP3 players and their EM EM OH AR PEE JEES and their "Dewmocracy" and their children's card games and their Jersey Shores and their Tattooed Tenaged Vampire Hunters from Beverly Hills
Seriously, that was amazing. I laughed my *ss off. Made my day, and I just woke up.
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.....would it be a bit blasphemous if I said, "PRAYSE RPJAYSUS!" like an Evangelical preacher?
Perhaps, but who doesn't like to blaspheme every now and again? Especially when Mr. RPJesus is completely right.
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I don't say this often, but ... LOL
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You... You... Evil something... I actualy made the damn char once I saw the poster... Now you made me see it again and I gained resolve to put it into my campaign. Shell be high standing oficial of Cyrix order. Uterly mad and only slightly evil. And it'll be bad. Evil even. And ill blame you and Lizard for it :P.
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I'm trying to work out if you're being sarcastic here. ...
Am going to stop you right there... it's RPJesus... he's always sarcastic
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we can only hope it gets the jace treatment...it could have at least been legendary
So that even the decks that don't run it run it to deal with it? Isn't that like the definition of format warping?
I lol'd.
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Uktabi Orangutan What the heck's going on with those monkeys?
The most common answer is that they are what RPJesus would call "[Debutantes avert your eyes]ing."
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...Am I the only one that thinks this is reaching the point of downright Kafkaesque insanity?
I condone the use of the word Kafkaesque. However, I'm presentely ambivalent. I mean, that can't be serious, right? We're April 1st, right? They didn't mod RPJesus for off-topic discussion when the WHOLE THREAD IS OFF-TOPIC, right? Right.
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Save or die. If you disagree with this, you're wrong (Not because of any points or arguements that have been made, but I just rolled a d20 for you and got a 1, so you lose).
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This just won the argument, AFAIC.
That's just awesome.
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HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE BEAR PRODUCING WORDS OF WILDING?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?!
That's what RPJesus tends to do. That's why I don't think he's a real person, but some Magic Card Archive Server sort of machine, that is programmed to react to other posters' comments with obscure cards that do in fact exist, but somehow missed by even the most experienced Magic players. And then come up with strange combos with said cards. All of that is impossible for a normal human to do given the amount of time he does it and how often he does it. He/It got me with Light of Sanction, which prompted me to go to RQ&A to try and find if it was even possible to do combat damage to a creature I control (in light that Mark of Asylum exists).
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heaven or hell.
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Blue players get all the overpowerered cards like JTMS. I think it's time that wizards gave something to people who remember what magic is really about: creatures.
Initially yes, Wizards was married to blue. However, about a decade ago they had a nasty divorce, and a few years after that they began courting the attention of Green. Then in Worldwake they had a nasty affair with their ex, but as of Innistrad, things seem to have gotten back on track, and Wizards has even proposed.
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Surely RPJesus gets Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius?
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First: I STILL can't take you seriously with that avatar. And I can take RPJesus seriously, so that's saying something.
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I'd offer you a cookie for making me laugh but it has an Upkeep Cost that has been known to cause people to quit eating.
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10/10. Amazing.
Just saw this on Starcity.  I am happy.
Nice!
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Good card is good, it just seems like all these miracle cards aren't worth it without Brainstorm effects.
Good card is good, it just seems like all these miracle cards aren't worth it without Brainstorm effects.



or at least a noxious revival
So this was the card Zac Hill was talking about in his article about Tibalt...

Screw Tibalt! Who needs him when you have cards like this? Refueling the hand in the late game seems awesome, too bad it can be countered, but I'll be trying it at least.

Still, I shudder to think what the Modern UR Storm decks are going to do with this
If Limited gets in the way of printing good Constructed cards... Screw limited
Definitely a good card to draw when you're topdecking - it even leaves you enough mana to play all your new cards.

The art's nice, but doesn't feel right for the card.
This is the first miracle card so far that I would happily pay the full cost for sometimes, and I have at least one deck that would use the Miracle any time I get it.
Competition for Bonfire of the Damned and the Time Walk for best Constructed Miracle. I'd pay 5 for a draw7/draw6/draw5/draw4 in red anyway.

This is pretty intense! 
Suffers the same drawback as Bonfire...it's a card where you want to pick your spot.

I will never say BOO A TIME WALK, but Wheel is a card where you will want to be carefull about when you play it to maximize your profits (on an empty hand) and maximize your opponent's pain (full hand). It will probably be fairly common where your hand is good enough to keep and you will draw this and it will be dead.

Although the fact that it only costs 5 hardcasted is good. You will still feasibly want to play it even if you pass on the miracle.
Constructed playable methinks.

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UR Delver is going to be one sick deck when this set is released.

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did somebody say broken in older formats? just like memory jar was all those years ago, sure it's no jar but in the right deck.... i could see this getting banned in legacy. Otherwise i plan on abusing the pants off of this i mean....c'mon past in flames. edit, who cares about the miracle cost when you play a bunch of rituals and then just recast these untill you draw your whole deck.
Commander will freaking love this.

R/B can put it on top of the deck.

Combine with the Blue new Planeswalker after her Ultimate ability.
I like this very much.
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this is saucy.
Reforge the Soul into Temporal Mastery.

Calling it right now. Top deck in standard.
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What's wrong with my formating?
you make paragraphs shorter than the page width
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Names that sam said were "the evil ones":
iamajellydonut glwiley kreewlin and every WizO
Another insanely powerful Miracle card if a deck can be made to take full advantage of it.  I know people are already saying about UR Delver but I am not sure that is the optimum deck to take full advantage of this.
Reforge the Soul into Temporal Mastery.

Calling it right now. Top deck in standard.



And how are you planning to do this when both are sorceries and you can only draw one first card each turn?
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Reforge the Soul into Temporal Mastery.

Calling it right now. Top deck in standard.

 

And how are you planning to do this when both are sorceries and you can only draw one first card each turn?


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YOU HAVE FOILED MY PLAN, GOOD SIR.

 
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What's wrong with my formating?
you make paragraphs shorter than the page width
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Names that sam said were "the evil ones":
iamajellydonut glwiley kreewlin and every WizO
Wow, I was actually so off. I forgot that Miracle was only the first card each turn.
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What's wrong with my formating?
you make paragraphs shorter than the page width
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Names that sam said were "the evil ones":
iamajellydonut glwiley kreewlin and every WizO
A way to refill your opponent's hand? Is this a joke? Where did you get that silly idea, my sir?

1-of in RDW.
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This is fancy.  I love mechanics like Miracle and Metalcraft that lets them print broken cards as non-broken cards.
Wow !

newer version of wheel of fortune...
This certainly looks good.

If this is the card they were hinting would work together with Tibalt though... really?  You reprint Wheel of Fortune and you think people are going to use it to fuel a suspended Sudden Impact?

It seems more likely that this will replace Tibalt in some of the decks that might have run him otherwise.

Current decks
Comments or suggestions are always welcome

Modern
nothing at the moment

Oh hey, remember that card in M11/M12 that was bad and that nobody played?

Time Reversal

Yeah, now it has miracle and dumps stuff in the graveyard.  Also, it's in a better colour for the effect.  (Red would potentially be ok with paying 5 for Time Reversal, just because red decks empty their hand quickly so you can get decent card advantage out of it).

EDIT: also, I'm amused that Time Reversal is mythic and this is rare.  A clear indication that mythic =/= higher power.  (Or not all the time, anyhow).

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looks like Miracle is an excuse to "reprint" some very crazy cards

I like it for that.
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Islands was right.

Good card, especially for red. Does work nicely with tibalt, and in the deck you'd play him in in general. Doesn't make the deck ridiculous, but does make it stronger. Also fun with Tamiyo.


I like the card. I can think of a few deck to put it in. 
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EDIT: also, I'm amused that Time Reversal is mythic and this is rare.  A clear indication that mythic =/= higher power.  (Or not all the time, anyhow).




Either that, or the economics of time walk vs wheel of fortune suggested they would create demand this way round
This card could help balance out the card loss when using miracles.  With Noxious Revival, Ponder and Reclaim, you could run a game with Temporal Mastery, Thunderous Wrath and Revenge of the Hunted.  Throw in a few evading one drops and one more element from being a fun (but not neccesarily good) standard deck.  Can't wait to see these other miracles.  I hope black won't be something stupid like a kill spell which will get pushed out of view by doom blade.  They already have draw, pump and life damage.
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Looks like tibalt's a RDW combo card now.
Maybe We will be getting a dark ritual type card black hasn't had one for a while.
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This card is actually decent. I agree with one-of in RDW, but potentially it's a more-than-one-of in other decks somewhere. Five on the front end is not too brutal, and miracle-ing this with an empty hand is just sweet.
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Tibalt just keeps getting better.
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wheel and deal and megrim would be cool to.
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delver usually has 3 or 4 cards in hand the whole game, but giving them 7 might be a disaster.  they could feed the discarded cards to moorland haunt as well.
and with a control deck, if they like their hand they'll counter this, if not then they're likely to draw answers.

in RDW this could definitely go places (especially with chandra's phoenix), so i guess we'll have to wait and see.
wolf run might be good too.  get all the titans you want Wink 

What if you could Soul Forge and Mystic Retrieval in the same turn? It might be bonkers but could Wizards print a card that lets you cast miracles FOR the miracle cost? Granted the cost of said card and the miracle cost would inch you up closer to the hardcasting cost but it would still be cheaper? Or is the mage dueling card whatever it's called that lets you play spells cheaper as close as well get?

Ok, I'll take the idea one step further. Any possibility of a enchantment that lets you cast the miracle cost for free when you draw it?

I don't think it's particularly likely -- the density of Miracles in the set can't be too high, or they stop being miraculous, and a card that specifically boosts a few cards in a single set seems unlikely.

They might do a 'Instant and sorcery cards in your library have Miracle.  The Miracle cost is equal to less than their mana cost.' or something.  There's been a trend of '[class of cards] have [block mechanic]' enchantments. (see: Maelstrom Nexus, Cast Through Time

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i don't think this will be good in anything other than mono-red burn or combo, decks that don't really care that your opponent just drew 7. Other than that it shouldn't see play, not to say that it won't but, it shouldn't. Anyway im hoping the price stays under $5 so i can load up all my legacy decks with this.