What's in the Helvault?

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So with the announcement of mini Helvault at pre-release events, do we have any idea what they would put in them?

Since it is a treasure that all players will share, it would have to be something in multiples.
Story wise, I think it would be awesome to have promo Avacyn and Griselbrand cards as the treasure (since they will be released from the vault). Or a mix of promo angels and demons. I'm not sure how likely that would be to have multiple promo cards.

My other though would be dice or life counters, they seem to be easy to distribute evenly among players.
Other thoughts:
Promo token cards.
Temporary Tattoos (like they had with the mana symbols, etc)
M&Ms again (but doubtful)
Packs (again maybe doubtful since packs aren't something too special).

Either way, it should be exciting to see what they do with it!
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Seriously though it's probably tokens. 
Probably niche tokens, like demons, angels, vampires. Maybe 1x Avacyn and griselbrand to be given to winners.
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It's obviously a real lady dressed as avacyn, and a bunch of dudes dressed as demons.  It would just be very cramped in there.
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Looking at that link about the price of winning legacy decks makes me wonder. There is no frakkin way Counterspell costs $1.50. It's a common, printed as an uncommon until Fifth, a common from Fifth to Seventh, and a common in every large set from Ice Age to Mercadian Masques.
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Mint ones are $1 at the cheapest, Magic was printed in smaller quantities then.
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I got a playset for 5 cents a piece, slightly used condition.
Overheard FNM speculation was it contains leftover Halloween candy.
Mint ones are $1 at the cheapest, Magic was printed in smaller quantities then.



Okay, so why don't I feel so much better about having hundreds of mint-condition counterspells?

That, and Mana Drain is strictly better.
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My guess is a slightly smaller Helvault. And inside that one, an even smaller Helvault. And so on.

You know, as a joke. 
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My guess is a slightly smaller Helvault. And inside that one, an even smaller Helvault. And so on.


And in the very smallest one is a copy of the card Helvault.
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My guess is a slightly smaller Helvault. And inside that one, an even smaller Helvault. And so on.


And in the very smallest one is a copy of the card Helvault.


And if you rub the helvault part of the card with a coin, you'll find a small picture of the card helvault
Anyone got the idea of the dimension of the helvault? I'm thinking it will be something along 40 cm * 40 cm * 80 cm. (around 1.2 * 1.2 * 2.4 feets for you weirdo americans)

Good job to WoTC for the mystery, but I sure as hell hope it's not a letdown, I'd be overly angry if it was a silly prize like the M&M that someone mentionned, during each pre-release, around the world, I'm pretty sure they make several millions of sales...


Unless M&M means Mazda&Mercedes
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Honestly, I expect it'll be promo cards, booster packs, sleeves, deck boxes, that sort of thing.
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That would be amazing and I would love Wizards forever for doing it.

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Cheese. The Helvault should be full of cheese. Preferably a giant fondue.
Because, let's face it, who doesn't love cheese?
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Overheard FNM speculation was it contains leftover Halloween candy.



Cuz its actually a pinata.
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Cheese. The Helvault should be full of cheese. Preferably a giant fondue.
Because, let's face it, who doesn't love cheese?


Well, the Helvault is a piece of the moon.


But I second Mown's idea.

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A cheese fondue pinata? Kind of messy...
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A cheese fondue pinata? Kind of messy...



... but fun!

*Imagines the tournament director announcing "Okay, it's time to open the Helvault! Please move all your decks away from the vicinity, especially the unsleeved mythics."*
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Flourishing Blowflies ( -1/-1 Counters)
When will the stores know if they are getting a helvault kit for their prerelease event? I've asked my main store, he applied but doesn't know if he'll get one yet...

Will canadian stores even get some?
Why wouldnt they? The only exception might be Quebec, laws and language barrier.

There's a lot of ridiculous combination of laws present in Quebec that makes it hard for certain contest to get through. Althrough those laws have a valid reason to exist (protecting french, preventing gambling, etc) If you combine them, it's a bureaucratic nightmare and compagnies simply say "available everywhere in Canada, except Quebec". It happen with several contest/rewards I could get from various things, not just magic, but including magic. I had to ask a friend in the US to go to his store with my voucher to get the duel of the planeswalker game promo card and mail it to me. I still owe him a beer
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pffffffft it's obviously going to be the worst card in the entire Innistrad block reprinted as mythic rare foil! God if they did that I would laugh so hard at all the people that went.

I thi nk it's actually going to be Avacyn though. Avacyn or the demon she is trapped with. 50/50 of getting either one would be pretty freakin epic.
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Avacyn probably. Maybe Griselbrand too. Avacyn's card isn't too great for her not to be a promo.
Did the Mayan calendar take into account the simultaneous opening of hundreds of Helvaults across the world?

I'm also betting on Wizards Play Network to send an e-mail to tournament organizers that apologizes for forgetting to include "Hope" in the Helvault as per the enclosed packing list and that it will be delivered with the next FNM promo shipment... 
Did the Mayan calendar take into account the simultaneous opening of hundreds of Helvaults across the world?



Alara's already going through an apocalypse.

(An aside: The Mayan calendar doesn't actually say that. The whole "end of the world part" was invented by some New Age guru in the 80s.)

I'm also betting on Wizards Play Network to send an e-mail to tournament organizers that apologizes for forgetting to include "Hope" in the Helvault as per the enclosed packing list and that it will be delivered with the next FNM promo shipment... 



But it does include an overcosted card.
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I spoke to the owner of one of my Local Comic Shops who runs the Magic events there and is a long-time fan. 
He said he was told that everyone on in attendence of the Pre-Release gets:

"1 of A, 2 of B, and 1 of C"

or something to that effect.

Probably niche tokens, like demons, angels, vampires. Maybe 1x Avacyn and griselbrand to be given to winners.



This is probably most likely. It's the easiest way to depict the demons flying out of the Helvault flavor. 

That would be pretty amazing for A and C to be Avacyn and Griselbrand, if for no other reason than that's two less Mythics to obtain. But I dunno, how often do they give Mythics as promo cards..?

At first I thought the Moonsilver Spear promo card was in the Helvault, and players didn't get it until the Helvault was opened, but that would be in conflict with the Magic Arcana article about the AR Promo Cards being separate from the Helvault goodies.



If the only cards in there are tokens, I hope the other stuff are fun things like Deck Boxes or Sleeves at least.

Life counters are a good guess, buy maybe they would make the Helvault too heavy...? I dunno, guess we will see...!

If there is some card in AR that features a shard of the moon/Helvault, I would bet it would be included in the Pre-Release Helvault too for the obvious flavor reasons. 

So if it's all cards, I'd venture a flavorful guess:
A = [moon shard cards] (x1)
B = demon tokens (x2)
C = special demon/angel card (x1)

Oh, and meat pies, to go with all that cheese. :P
Did anyone see the video sent to shops about the Helvault?
It looks to be about 3 feet tall and has prize support for 53 players.

With that much, it probably is some promos, tokens, hopefully temporary tattoos!
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No I didnt see it, mind posting a link? I hope it's just cards and nothing else, no tokens, no tattoos (OMG the horror if it was tattoos).... or maybe a cheese fondue pinata
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Apparently some German guys opened it early and posted it on Youtube.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=m83JcNoNQ-4&feat...

Dangerous stuff there, WotC!   
  

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Apparently some German guys opened it early and posted it on Youtube.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=m83JcNoNQ-4&feat...

Dangerous stuff there, WotC!   
  



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