Jedi Master Qui-Gon Quin VS Captain Jean-Luc Picard

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My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
Agreed. Totally rigged. 
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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
Yup.  The fix was in.  All I knows is that there was only one knight on that stage an' he weren't no talk show host or Jedi poser.  But damn, Sir Patrick Stewart has certainly gotten old.
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Yup.  The fix was in.  All I knows is that there was only one knight on that stage an' he weren't no talk show host or Jedi poser.  But damn, Sir Patrick Stewart has certainly gotten old.

Yup, yup, and yup.

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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
I mean, he was always old.  He just never looked it before.  Now he looks old.  It's sad.
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Sure he looked old, he just never looked old, ya know?
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fascinating
a mask everyone has at least two of, one they wear in public and another they wear in private.....
a phaser's just no match for a lightsaber!
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Well yeah.  Er ... except for that whole range thing.  Umm ... and the adjustability deal.  And ... that a phaser can also be a bomb of sorts.  Oh, and you don't have to have some sort of algae or whatever in your blood to operate one.  So yeah, ignoring those four minor advantages, light sabers are certainly better.  ;)
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Qui-Gon every time. There is a 0% chance of him losing.
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Qui-Gon every time. There is a 0% chance of him losing.


Tell that to Darth Maul ;)
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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
I was on topic, my reply was directed at Qui v Picard.

Darth Maul was a [Edited], before he gets a spin off as a cyborg But as far as Picard is concerned he may want to mind his tone.
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Many have tried to kill Picard ... and failed.
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The answer is simple, they are not Qui-gon. Slayer of the hairless (with the minor exception of Mr. Maul)
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Umm ... when Picard got stabbed through the heart, he just got a new heart and went on with his life.  Qui Gon?  He was removed from existence.  Winner: Picard.
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The answer is simple, they are not Qui-gon. Slayer of the hairless (with the minor exception of Mr. Maul)


Of course the ones who tried to kill Picard aren't Qui-gon. Qui-gon is dead. He can't try, much less actually, kill anyone.
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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
I was on topic, my reply was directed at Qui v Picard.

Darth Maul was a [Edited], before he gets a spin off as a cyborg But as far as Picard is concerned he may want to mind his tone.



LOL
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LOL

Looks like you've made friends with our friendly1 neighborhood reporter.

You know who woud really curb-stomp Qui-gon? Dr. Beverly Crusher. She'd just administer some antibiotics to get rid of the bacteria infection Qui-gon has and get rid of his force powers.

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He doesn'tlike the rest of us either.
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This is not a trapp
My temple name is Elohim. What is your super-secret temple name?
Riddle me this
How can two people with physical bodies make spirit babies?
*Two points about this gag. Firstly, every writer of anything makes typos and I’m no different. It’s “there but for the grace of God go I” rather than schadenfreude here. The second is something called Muphry’s Law (no, it is Muphry’s, not Murphy’s) which states that any piece correcting or laughing at a typo, spelling or grammatical mistake will contain at least one worse than the original being complained of.
Yup.  One Hypo Spray and Qui Gon is Qui Gone.
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Maybe, but if I were a jedi and some lady spraid something at me I'd cut her in half and throw her down one of the many endless holes in the SW galaxy for some reason.

No force powers, but he still has a sword made of pure refined awesomeanium. 
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And don't you need the bacterovirallameness or whatever they call it to power a light saber anyway?  Qui Gon is so lame.
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And don't you need the bacterovirallameness or whatever they call it to power a light saber anyway?  Qui Gon is so lame.



You shut your mouth! He is the animus of Liam Neeson, and he has a very special set of skills for dealinh with the likes of OTTers. As to activating his saber, I'm not sure if he needs them or not.


@Res_Man, he could totally deflect it with his lightsaber.

 
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You shut your mouth! He is the animus of Liam Neeson, and he has a very special set of skills for dealinh with the likes of OTTers. As to activating his saber, I'm not sure if he needs them or not. 



You know why Liam Neeson took the role?  Cuz he couldn't get a Star Trek gig.  Not cool enough.

@ZB: So Jedis are people with magical AIDS?



Yeah.  That's why I kinda feel sorry for 'em.  Their 'powers' are manifestations of a disgusting infection.  I imagine it's tough to get laid as a Jedi.  Every chick around knows you're full of bacteria.  And it really, really negatively impacts your fashion sense and hair style choice.  Like, epically.  Poor Jedi.  So sick.  And the worst part?  The wretched infecting agent controls their minds.  Makes 'em think that living as a Jedi is good for them when, in reality, it's just a mechanism to keep the virus or whatever alive.  Kind of like those fungi and bugs an' stuff that can zombify ants.  Jedi's brains are totally taken over by the disease and they ... they aren't people anymore.  And then the powers that be in the galaxy abuse this insane devotion by pretending to respect the Jedi in order to get them to do their bidding.  It's really sad. 
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I'd make the trade every time. I'd love the abilities it grants...no way I could adhere to the Jedi way, but I'd try and get them to believe I would.
 
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I'd make the trade every time. I'd love the abilities it grants...no way I could adhere to the Jedi way, but I'd try and get them to believe I would.
 



That's the problem.  It's a disease, man.  You can't control it.  Once infected you have no choice but to follow the Jedi way.  And the worst part?  It'll make you think you like it.
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Whatever though, as long as my body can do backflips and jump high enough to not need jetpacks it's all worth it. Don't even care if my choices aren't my own ;)
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You will be a happy slave to the sickness. 
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Exactly. I'd be like an illithid's thrall...perfectly content to obey.
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And they will, too.  Cuz they're so, so ... lame.
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I find your lack of faith (in the bacteria) disturbing.
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Now, now.  I have total faith ... that they're incredibly lame. 
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There is bacteria in yogurt.
If the replicator on the Enterprise "makes" things, how can it "make" yogurt without also "making"  life, aka bacteria? And if the replicator can make life, why not replicate a clone army of Klingons?
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Interesting.  It also means that they could - if they were stupid enough - likely replicate midichlorians so that they could create their own Jedi.  But, like I said, they're too smart to subject their people to slavery to a microorganism.  That's just lame and Star Trek is anything but.
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no you dont need force powers to activate a lightsaber, unless Han has force powers!?
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no you dont need force powers to activate a lightsaber, unless Han has force powers!?

In th novels it is later revealed Hans has some force within him.

What do you expect? He did pick up Luke and Obi-Wan in a bar, after all...
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no you dont need force powers to activate a lightsaber, unless Han has force powers!?

In th novels it is later revealed Hans has some force within him.

What do you expect? He did pick up Luke and Obi-Wan in a bar, after all...



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