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Has the set list been published (or spoiled) yet?  It's probably a safe bet that Mustangs will be here, but will we have slower planes like the Ju-87 Stuka and Dauntless?
No official set list yet.  There have been many hints from WOTC with info from blogs, game demos, the catalog, box art, Axis & Allies ForumMini site conjecture and the opening salvos.

No Stuka, all aircraft have retractable landing gears.  No Dauntless, as all aircraft are fighters.  Although the Bf-110 was not much of a fighter.

US - P-40, P-51, F4F
UK - Hurricane, Spitfire, Typhoon
Germany - FW-190A, Bf-109E, Bf-110  Rumors are that there will be a Bf-109F and a Bf-109G
Japan - Zero, Tony
France - MS 406
Italy - C.202 Folgore and supposedly another aircraft
Soviet Union - Yak-1, I-16, Tomahawk II, and ?
China - P-40 Flying Tiger, I-16
Finland - MS 406?

Hopefully we will have something official before the release date. 
Any rumors about the F4U or the Me262?
All quiet on those two.  There is a rumor that the next set theme will be the battle in the Pacific, so maybe the F4U will be in set II.
The next set is Pacific themed. Lots of cool American & Japanese planes. Of course there will also be numerous European theatre planes.
Any Chance of sneaking an Aussie aircraft in there? may be Kittyhawks of 75 Squadron Milne bay? Or even Clive Cauldwells Spitty in Darwin 43.

Dare i say IAR81?
M2AO,

We are speculating on the Underground about the AAM cards that will be in the starter set and are wondering a few things.

In A20 there are levels of pilot skill. Will these skill levels translate into the AAM Cards?

Will the existing cards require revisions?

As far as we know so far we have, Bf 109 e's, f's and G's. Will these be one generic AAM card or three slightly different cards?


Cheers
Ober
The potentcy of the 88 was that it was present, in reasonable numbers, when it was needed, They had them. We did not. And anything an enemy has which makes life unpleasant for you tends to earn a larger-than-life reputation. Ian Hogg IMAGE(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/obermasterfuhrer/Axis%20and%20Allies/Resignationsig2.jpg)A&A Underground AAM Database
M2AO,

We are speculating on the Underground about the AAM cards that will be in the starter set and are wondering a few things.

In A20 there are levels of pilot skill. Will these skill levels translate into the AAM Cards?

Will the existing cards require revisions?

As far as we know so far we have, Bf 109 e's, f's and G's. Will these be one generic AAM card or three slightly different cards?


Cheers
Ober



Yes and no. If the plane already existed in AAM, I didn't make any changes to the stats. With that said if there was a normal version of a plane and an Ace version of the plane there are differences. There are different stat lines for each unit in the set. So regarding the 109 there is a 109E Ace, 109E Wingman, 109F, and a 109G Ace

Here is a good example: The Bf 109E:

Bf 109E Wingman     GE     1939     Cost:14     Def: 4
AI 8/6/-     AV 4/3/-     Aircraft; Antiair

Bf109E Ace               GE     1939     Cost: 17     Def: 4
AI 9/7/-     AV 4/3/-     Aircraft; Ace; Steely Resolve 2

There might be a few planes here or there that differ slightly from the orginial AAM version. Any difference is minor though.

The AAM stats are on page 37 of the rulebook. There were a few typos that made it into the book. Of course you can play the units as printed. Here is a list of corrections I would make if you want to play the planes as I intended them to be statted out.

A6M2 Zero Ace - reduce Defense to 3

P-40C Flying Tiger - change nation to China

Typhoon Interceptor - reduce cost to 16, remove Rockets 8 (this is an early version of the Typhoon, the Typhoon in set 2 will have Rockets 8)
Any Chance of sneaking an Aussie aircraft in there? may be Kittyhawks of 75 Squadron Milne bay? Or even Clive Cauldwells Spitty in Darwin 43.

Dare i say IAR81?



There is very good chance that you will be pleased with set II.
M2AO,

We are speculating on the Underground about the AAM cards that will be in the starter set and are wondering a few things.

In A20 there are levels of pilot skill. Will these skill levels translate into the AAM Cards?

Will the existing cards require revisions?

As far as we know so far we have, Bf 109 e's, f's and G's. Will these be one generic AAM card or three slightly different cards?


Cheers
Ober



Yes and no. If the plane already existed in AAM, I didn't make any changes to the stats. With that said if there was a normal version of a plane and an Ace version of the plane there are differences. There are different stat lines for each unit in the set. So regarding the 109 there is a 109E Ace, 109E Wingman, 109F, and a 109G Ace

Here is a good example: The Bf 109E:

Bf 109E Wingman     GE     1939     Cost:14     Def: 4
AI 8/6/-     AV 4/3/-     Aircraft; Antiair

Bf109E Ace               GE     1939     Cost: 17     Def: 4
AI 9/7/-     AV 4/3/-     Aircraft; Ace; Steely Resolve 2

There might be a few planes here or there that differ slightly from the orginial AAM version. Any difference is minor though.

The AAM stats are on page 37 of the rulebook. There were a few typos that made it into the book. Of course you can play the units as printed. Here is a list of corrections I would make if you want to play the planes as I intended them to be statted out.

A6M2 Zero Ace - reduce Defense to 3

P-40C Flying Tiger - change nation to China

Typhoon Interceptor - reduce cost to 16, remove Rockets 8 (this is an early version of the Typhoon, the Typhoon in set 2 will have Rockets 8)


Thank you. Thats very interesting and I must say I am looking forward to the release for both AAM and the stand alone game A20.

I assume you will be able to release the full set list on the eve of the release?

Cheers
Ober

The potentcy of the 88 was that it was present, in reasonable numbers, when it was needed, They had them. We did not. And anything an enemy has which makes life unpleasant for you tends to earn a larger-than-life reputation. Ian Hogg IMAGE(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/obermasterfuhrer/Axis%20and%20Allies/Resignationsig2.jpg)A&A Underground AAM Database


Yes and no. If the plane already existed in AAM, I didn't make any changes to the stats. With that said if there was a normal version of a plane and an Ace version of the plane there are differences. There are different stat lines for each unit in the set. So regarding the 109 there is a 109E Ace, 109E Wingman, 109F, and a 109G Ace

Here is a good example: The Bf 109E:

Bf 109E Wingman     GE     1939     Cost:14     Def: 4
AI 8/6/-     AV 4/3/-     Aircraft; Antiair

Bf109E Ace               GE     1939     Cost: 17     Def: 4
AI 9/7/-     AV 4/3/-     Aircraft; Ace; Steely Resolve 2

There might be a few planes here or there that differ slightly from the orginial AAM version. Any difference is minor though.

The AAM stats are on page 37 of the rulebook. There were a few typos that made it into the book. Of course you can play the units as printed. Here is a list of corrections I would make if you want to play the planes as I intended them to be statted out.

A6M2 Zero Ace - reduce Defense to 3

P-40C Flying Tiger - change nation to China

Typhoon Interceptor - reduce cost to 16, remove Rockets 8 (this is an early version of the Typhoon, the Typhoon in set 2 will have Rockets 8)



Thanks for this information!  I am getting really excited for this game. 

I know you probably can't confirm anything either way, but is there any hope of seeing a P-38 in future sets?  Like maybe in a Starter like the Bf-110 is currently?

The next set is Pacific themed. Lots of cool American & Japanese planes. Of course there will also be numerous European theatre planes.



Great news that Set II is Pacific based.  As a kid, it was the Time-Life book - Carrier War that got me into naval aviation and history.  And Avalon Hill's Midway was one of my first board games.

The rules in the opening salvos look great so far.  Can't wait to see the complete rules.  Hope there are some diagrams so that when I teach my sons the game mechanics, I don't have to pull up the maneuver diagrams on google. 

The F4u was lsited one place I saw Dawghouse I believe.  What is the accual release date??
Any Chance of sneaking an Aussie aircraft in there? may be Kittyhawks of 75 Squadron Milne bay? Or even Clive Cauldwells Spitty in Darwin 43.

Dare i say IAR81?



There is very good chance that you will be pleased with set II.


On all accounts? or just 1?
The F4u was lsited one place I saw Dawghouse I believe.  What is the accual release date??




Release date of 2/21/12 - 10 days to go! 

Saw on (German) amazon an announcement for Angels 20 Set II - seems there will be another starter + the standard booster format...

Release date Oct 16th! - so push that back 6-12 Months to get actual release date ;)
...,... and Rock'n Roll - but Minis are fun too...
Saw on (German) amazon an announcement for Angels 20 Set II - seems there will be another starter + the standard booster format...

Release date Oct 16th! - so push that back 6-12 Months to get actual release date ;)


That would make sense if the cards don't come in the booster in set II also.
The potentcy of the 88 was that it was present, in reasonable numbers, when it was needed, They had them. We did not. And anything an enemy has which makes life unpleasant for you tends to earn a larger-than-life reputation. Ian Hogg IMAGE(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/obermasterfuhrer/Axis%20and%20Allies/Resignationsig2.jpg)A&A Underground AAM Database
Looks like we will have the set list on Tuesday when the last Opening Salvo comes out

My order should be in my hands by next Friday or Saturday.  Can't wait!!!
Set list, in no apparent order:
A6M2 'Zeke' 
A6M2 Zero Ace 
Bf 109E Ace 
Bf 109E Wingman 
Bf 109 F 'Friedrich' 
Bf 109 G 'Gustav' Ace
Bf 110 C 
C. 200 Saetta Rookie
C.202 Folgore 
C.202 Folgore Ace 
Channel Front Fw 190A 
Expeditionary C.200 Saetta 
Fw 190A Wurger 
Guards Yak-1 
Hurricane Mk I 
I-16 "Abu" 
I-16 "Ishak" 
Ki-61 "Tony" 
Kosciuszko Hurricane Mk I
Lend-Lease Tomahawk II 
MS. 406 "Matimaha"
MS. 406 Rookie
Navy F4F-3 Wildcat 
P-40B Rookie 
P-40C Flying Tiger 
P-51B Mustang Ace 
P-51C Escort 
Spitfire Mk I Ace 
Typhoon Interceptor 
USMC F4F-4 Wildcat 
Yak-1 Rookie

So far so good!  
Thanks Rebel!!! 

Interesting that only the pilot status of either Rookie or Ace is mentioned in the plane name.  The Veteran and Average pilots are not explicitly mentioned.

Hope the Opening Salvo will list the pilot status.

Wondering if Ace planes will be considered very rare for case distibution, Veteran planes rare, etc.  That would add a collectible element to the game that seems to be missing so far.  Will each booster have either one Ace or Veteran and two Average or Rookies?

         
No apparent order ? - seems to be ordered alphabethically ...
...,... and Rock'n Roll - but Minis are fun too...
The exact list with pilot levels and costs:

aaminis.myfastforum.org/sutra744270.php#...
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Chinese I-16 "Abu" AAM stats - add Antiair (otherwise, what's the point?)
Chinese I-16 "Abu" AAM stats - add Antiair (otherwise, what's the point?)


That makes sense! :D Thanks!

(Any other little changes to make them more fair?)