[DKA-ICD] Hellrider

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Ghost rider.
Just what my red deck needed.
Seems like good competition for the 4-drop slot in RDW.
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The art a lone make me like this. Over all should be good in the aggressive red decks. Still, in standard this he is fighting against a lot of good 4 drops. 
Scary. That is a heck of a lot of damage coming out of nowhere. In limited, I'm going to live in fear of this card. In constructed, I think it is actually quite playable.
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Is this guy better than Hero of Oxid Ridge?  Actually, yeah, I think he is.  Notice he doesn't exclude himself, so if he doesn't get blocked, he's hitting for 4 himself.  You can also redirect any number of single "pings" to an opposing PW, directing all the "combat damage" to the opponent.  Man, this guy makes up for a lot of really bad rares in this set.
Better than Hero of Oxid Ridge in RDW....and that's a scary notion.
It's like a better battle cry!
Awesome card.  For some reason I misread the flavor text and thought it said demon's chin lol.

Not entirely convinced this is better than Hero of Oxid Ridge.

This card is better in almost every way. Higher toughness, does the same damage, swings in the turn hes played, and his "battle cry" is unblockable.

Hero evasion ability is pretty relevant in the meta at the moment though, mana dorks, delver, moorland haunt, timely, midnight haunting, and the plethora of human token generation DKA seems to have.

Definitely worth testing though, looking forward to picking up a playset of these.
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Good in Limited and in Constructed.  Nice card.

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Literally the same total damage as Hero of Oxid Ridge.  (Hero doesn't trigger +1/+0 on himself).
3 toughness instead of 2.  With Galvanic Blast and Arc Trail this is important.
As others have noted, more control over where your damage goes (can redirect the exact right amount to a planeswalker).

I agree that it's not necessarily better because 1/1 tokens are all the rage right now.  But very impressive regardless.

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Wow, I'm in love with that artwork! <3 Amazing card
Just a really good red card, should be fun.
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Can you really direct the damage to a planeswalker like metroidcomposite said? That's Brilliant!
good with tokens decks. I was just thinking the other day that standard needs a Goblin Bushwhacker. This is more expensive but could do the trick. I'll be testing it with Shrine of Loyal Legions.
Good card is good!
this guy seems like he'll eat up removal really quickly like a red elvish piper.  and the damage comes straight from hellrider, so you can have some fun with infect if you have a train to catch.
This guy is going to be a finisher in the red aggro limited decks.  As for whether he might make it in constructed I am not sure as he is best off in a big token deck like white but I can't see red/white aggro working at the moment.
I'm really looking forward to using this guy with Chandra's Spitfire in casual. That would make for one pretty scary fourth turn.
this is a sweet card, really looking forward to playing with it.

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Lordie! If you could set that up in limited it would be a game winner.
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I think this guy is due the underrated card of the set out of the gate. For some reason he's got a few pages and Grafdigger's Cage has like 160+ or so comments.

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this is the 4 drop that replaces Koth in K-red. Wonder if its gonna come back....
This is the card that I always wanted Hero of Oxid Ridge to be - the card that doesn't die to either Arc Trail or Galvanic Blast, and doesn't just trade with a bear. It also threatens Planeswalkers much more - if you go T3 Phoenix, they go T3 Liliana -2, you follow with this and bash them for three on top of killing the 'Walker. Very smooth design. Incinerate will probably see a rise in play as this guy does.

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Seems good.  The toughness is huge and killing walkers is nice.
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Just some comparison of this guy with Hero of Oxid Ridge.

Vs 1-power blockers: Advantage goes to Hero. He skips by them altogether, while this guy gets chumped and pings for 1.
Vs 2-power blockers: Advantage Hellrider. He doesn't die, and STILL pings for 1. Simple.
Vs 3 or more power blockers: Ceases to matter.

Vs 1,2, or 3-toughness blockers: Advantage Hellrider. He still gets the ping damage.
Vs 4-toughness blockers: Hero trades, while Hellrider gets stopped cold, but pings. I'd say advantage Hero for a typical game, but that's debatable.
Vs 5 or more toughness blockers: Advantage Hellrider, for pinging.

Other things to consider:
Hellrider is generally going to punch through more damage, while Hero will be much "Tradier" in multi-creature combat.
Hero is a Human, which could conceivably matter (positively or negatively) sometimes.
Hellrider can plink planeswalkers and divide damage better.
Hero interacts better with "power matters" cards, such as Spikeshot Elder.

I wouldn't say it's a clear call for who's better. It depends on what creatures are in the meta. But one GREAT thing about this card? His competition with Hero means the prices for both of them might get driven down. Yay for budget-friendly Red!
I just want to point out that the comparison could change if we get a better modular spell for taking out the Hellrider.

I think this is exactly what I wanted Raid Bombardment to be, and I look forward to plunking both creatures into a deck as finishers.
Think I'm going to build a fun casual deck around this guy and Feed the Pack and Tree of Redemption
I see boros on the horizon.
I love red creatures, but seriously, the amount of cubable 4 mana red dudes is getting ridiculous.  We need more awesome red 2 drops.  The red 4 drop slot is now officially completely filled.  You don't need to make any good ones for at least 5 years.

I'll probably play this guy because he's awesome, but in all honesty he doesn't really add much interesting that Keldon Champion and Hero of Oxid Ridge don't already do.  I know red is the most aggro color in the cube, but do we need to completely invalidate everything above 4 that isn't Siege Gang Commander and Crater Hellion?  I guess Inferno Titan is ok, if you're into that sort of thing, but seriously, just stop it, its frustrating having to not play so many awesome cards!
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Ghost rider.

This. XD


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I think this guy is due the underrated card of the set out of the gate. For some reason he's got a few pages and Grafdigger's Cage has like 160+ or so comments.

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You can thank all the people protesting "Occupy Wizards" over that card.....it's insane in that thread.

But on topic, this guy is the new finisher for RDW I bet....
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I want to build a "4-drop red" deck. ;)

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This won't see play in standard in the current metagame too many tokens can chump block it.

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This won't see play in standard in the current metagame too many tokens can chump block it.

Tokens are a great reason to use this card.   It gives attackers damage that goes right to the dome, chump blocking cant stop it all.  this is a great curve topper, though its fighting with Hero of oxid ridge in the spot, so it might not shine until rotation
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