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Melvin vs. Vorthos.
"What it is" versus "What it should be"

It's all just a game of cardboard rectangles.  Or, is it a tale of summoning an army and weaving arcane magicks?

That is the true issue. Those of us who wish to leverage the rules, and those who wish to tell a story.  There will be some overlap, but much like everything ever, it's a simple "Us vs. them".
Melvins are not automaticly Mr. Drearypants.

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3CB #1 (1/30/11): Won by silasw, with Mishra's Factory, Orzhov Basilica, Vindicate. 3CB #2 (2/13/11): Won by Vektor480, with Mishra's Workshop, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs 3CB #3(2/20/11): Joint win between defuse, with Saprazzan Skerry, Scalding Tongs, Energy Field; and Mown, with The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Inkmoth Nexus, Sheltered Valley 3CB #4(3/13/11): Won by Mown, with Keldon Megaliths, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Boros Garrison 3CB #5(3/20/11): Won by silasw, with Black Lotus, Channel, Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
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5CB 1 (3/6/11): Won by Maraxus-of-Keld, with Tropical Island, Thallid, Nether Spirit, Daze, Foil
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56819178 wrote:
So, how would I use a card that has a large in the top half and "sui?l? -- pu?? ?is?q" across the middle?
57031358 wrote:
99113151 wrote:
Winning is not important if: 1. You win by a blowout. 2. You pay billions of dollars in cards to win. If you like wasting money just to win one game, while you could have saved it to lose a few and end up winning more in the future, then it is fine by me.
what? do you ceremonially light your deck on fire after a win?
57169958 wrote:
Or did no one notice Transmogrifying Licid before. (And by not notice, I mean covered their ears and shouted LA LA LA LA )
57193048 wrote:
57169958 wrote:
Hmmm... I think the most awkward situation at the moment is simply the Myr Welder / Equipment / Licid / Aura craziness, but I'm pretty sure he's aware of it.
If the most awkward thing going on right now involves Licids, I declare victory.
56287226 wrote:
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[02:47:46] It doesn't merely "come out of suspend" - you take the last time counter off, and then suspend triggers and say "now cast that! CAST IT NOOOOOW!" [02:47:49] Because suspend has no indoors voice
[10:11:33] !opalescence [10:11:33] Opalescence {2WW} |Enchantment| Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature with power and toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. It's still an enchantment. · Reserved,UD-R,Vin,Leg,Cla,USBC [10:11:51] *sigh* [10:12:10] Otecko: Do you have a question about Opalescence? [10:12:17] sure [10:12:23] $10 on humility interaction [10:12:25] :P [10:12:29] :D [10:12:47] humility + opalescence put into play by replenish
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58325628 wrote:
Mage is awesome, BTW.
56967858 wrote:
Dear Mage24365, You are totally awesome. Thank you so much. I hope you are able to dine in Paradise without kicking the bucket to actually get there, and that every dollar you ever make magically becomes two more.
58158398 wrote:
56761258 wrote:
I don't think there are any cards like that. There are things that prevent you from activating activated abilities, things that increase their cost, and things that counter them, but I don't think anything triggers from them specifically. There are things that trigger from targeting, so that might be relevant, but I can't think of anything that triggers from targeting a player. I'm almost positive there's nothing that triggers from damage being prevented.
Rings of Brighthearth; Dormant Gomazoa; Samite Ministration.
56761258 wrote:
Well played.

 

Not really, no.

The game can be, and is, both. It's a tale of summoning an army and weaving arcane magicks as told through cardboard rectangles. Melvin isn't somebody who can't see or enjoy flavor, they're somebody who happens to appreciate mechanical complexity and interplay. Similarly, Vorthos isn't somebody who can't see or enjoy the mechanical aspects of the game, they're somebody who happens to appreciate worldbuilding, art, and storytelling.

Melvin vs. Vorthos isn't a competition, it's a graph.


Most players will be somewhere in a broad arc through the upper-right quadrant; while there are some in the upper-left and lower-right quadrants, they're relatively rare.

Come join me at No Goblins Allowed


Because frankly, being here depresses me these days.

I have to agree with zammm. He's got graphs. Where's your graphs?
I said graphs, not giraffes!
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57817638 wrote:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
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56747598 wrote:
57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
56747598 wrote:
76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
76672808 wrote:
57864098 wrote:
57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
99812049 wrote:
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
56816728 wrote:
56854588 wrote:
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
70246459 wrote:
WOAH wait wait wait
56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
56957928 wrote:
OH MY GOD
109874309 wrote:
The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
82032421 wrote:
The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
56874518 wrote:
Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
70246459 wrote:
58280208 wrote:
You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
57817638 wrote:
57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
70246459 wrote:
58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
56965458 wrote:
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
57864098 wrote:
57309598 wrote:
I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
58325628 wrote:
Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.
Doug Beyer:
But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
141434757 wrote:
Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :
57927608 wrote:
to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
58347268 wrote:
when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
143229641 wrote:
I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Dymecoar:
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
Omega137:
Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right." Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"
Zigeif777:
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
57471038 wrote:
58258708 wrote:
It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
91893448 wrote:
94618431 wrote:
I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
57129358 wrote:
97980259 wrote:
My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days. We named it Grixis, but it died.
Unearth it!
70246459 wrote:
[/spoiler] And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you? Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now. Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
Ah, Spongebob.

But yeah, I'm totally a Melvin and a Vorthos.
I'm not sure what either Melvin or Vorthos are.  So I'm probably a Broseph.
this thread compels me to mention drugs

please post cards in my threads they are special places to me

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I'm not sure what either Melvin or Vorthos are.  So I'm probably a Broseph.

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57817638 wrote:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
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56747598 wrote:
57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
56747598 wrote:
76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
76672808 wrote:
57864098 wrote:
57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
99812049 wrote:
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
56816728 wrote:
56854588 wrote:
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
70246459 wrote:
WOAH wait wait wait
56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
56957928 wrote:
OH MY GOD
109874309 wrote:
The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
82032421 wrote:
The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
56874518 wrote:
Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
70246459 wrote:
58280208 wrote:
You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
57817638 wrote:
57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
70246459 wrote:
58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
56965458 wrote:
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
57864098 wrote:
57309598 wrote:
I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
58325628 wrote:
Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.
Doug Beyer:
But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
141434757 wrote:
Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :
57927608 wrote:
to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
58347268 wrote:
when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
143229641 wrote:
I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Dymecoar:
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
Omega137:
Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right." Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"
Zigeif777:
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
57471038 wrote:
58258708 wrote:
It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
91893448 wrote:
94618431 wrote:
I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
57129358 wrote:
97980259 wrote:
My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days. We named it Grixis, but it died.
Unearth it!
70246459 wrote:
[/spoiler] And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you? Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now. Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
Haha, this thread made me laugh out loud for the first time in a very long while on this forum.
also i totally want to be an anti-melvin anti-vorthos now 

please post cards in my threads they are special places to me

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Haha, this thread made me laugh out loud for the first time in a very long while on this forum.


was it vektor?

'cause I laughed out loud at that.

 

120.6. Some effects replace card draws.

 

why are you here when NGA exists and is just better

I'm trying to figure out what you would do as an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos. What would that even be? You hate mechanical interactions, and you hate the flavor of the cards, so you play...

Stasis? All Stasis, all the time?
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I'm trying to figure out what you would do as an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos. What would that even be? You hate mechanical interactions, and you hate the flavor of the cards, so you play...

Stasis? All Stasis, all the time?


stasis is pretty flavorful.

anyway I think anyone who falls in the lower left quadrant would prolaby just not enjoy Magic.

 

120.6. Some effects replace card draws.

 

why are you here when NGA exists and is just better

I'm trying to figure out what you would do as an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos. What would that even be? You hate mechanical interactions, and you hate the flavor of the cards, so you play...

Stasis? All Stasis, all the time?

HURR DURR BURN ALL MAGIC CARDS

That's how you'd be like.
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57817638 wrote:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
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Quotes
56747598 wrote:
57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
56747598 wrote:
76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
76672808 wrote:
57864098 wrote:
57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
99812049 wrote:
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
56816728 wrote:
56854588 wrote:
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
70246459 wrote:
WOAH wait wait wait
56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
56957928 wrote:
OH MY GOD
109874309 wrote:
The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
82032421 wrote:
The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
56874518 wrote:
Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
70246459 wrote:
58280208 wrote:
You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
57817638 wrote:
57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
70246459 wrote:
58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
56965458 wrote:
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
57864098 wrote:
57309598 wrote:
I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
58325628 wrote:
Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.
Doug Beyer:
But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
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Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :
57927608 wrote:
to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
58347268 wrote:
when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
143229641 wrote:
I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Dymecoar:
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
Omega137:
Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right." Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"
Zigeif777:
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
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58258708 wrote:
It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
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94618431 wrote:
I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
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97980259 wrote:
My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days. We named it Grixis, but it died.
Unearth it!
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[/spoiler] And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you? Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now. Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
Vektor, answer your mail.
I'm trying to figure out what you would do as an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos. What would that even be? You hate mechanical interactions, and you hate the flavor of the cards, so you play...

Stasis? All Stasis, all the time?


stasis is pretty flavorful.

anyway I think anyone who falls in the lower left quadrant would prolaby just not enjoy Magic.

 

Hardcore Spike-only types could probably be anti-Vorthos and anti-Melvin.  They don't really care about the design, just if something is good enough for them to win.
I'm trying to figure out what you would do as an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos. What would that even be? You hate mechanical interactions, and you hate the flavor of the cards, so you play...

Stasis? All Stasis, all the time?


stasis is pretty flavorful.

anyway I think anyone who falls in the lower left quadrant would prolaby just not enjoy Magic.

 

Hardcore Spike-only types could probably be anti-Vorthos and anti-Melvin.  They don't really care about the design, just if something is good enough for them to win.


In order to see what's good, you really have to have some appreciation of how the abilities of cards interact in a mechanical sense. Thus, hardcore spikes are often Melvins.

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So, how would I use a card that has a large in the top half and "sui?l? -- pu?? ?is?q" across the middle?
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99113151 wrote:
Winning is not important if: 1. You win by a blowout. 2. You pay billions of dollars in cards to win. If you like wasting money just to win one game, while you could have saved it to lose a few and end up winning more in the future, then it is fine by me.
what? do you ceremonially light your deck on fire after a win?
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Or did no one notice Transmogrifying Licid before. (And by not notice, I mean covered their ears and shouted LA LA LA LA )
57193048 wrote:
57169958 wrote:
Hmmm... I think the most awkward situation at the moment is simply the Myr Welder / Equipment / Licid / Aura craziness, but I'm pretty sure he's aware of it.
If the most awkward thing going on right now involves Licids, I declare victory.
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[02:47:46] It doesn't merely "come out of suspend" - you take the last time counter off, and then suspend triggers and say "now cast that! CAST IT NOOOOOW!" [02:47:49] Because suspend has no indoors voice
[10:11:33] !opalescence [10:11:33] Opalescence {2WW} |Enchantment| Each other non-Aura enchantment is a creature with power and toughness each equal to its converted mana cost. It's still an enchantment. · Reserved,UD-R,Vin,Leg,Cla,USBC [10:11:51] *sigh* [10:12:10] Otecko: Do you have a question about Opalescence? [10:12:17] sure [10:12:23] $10 on humility interaction [10:12:25] :P [10:12:29] :D [10:12:47] humility + opalescence put into play by replenish
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58325628 wrote:
Mage is awesome, BTW.
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Dear Mage24365, You are totally awesome. Thank you so much. I hope you are able to dine in Paradise without kicking the bucket to actually get there, and that every dollar you ever make magically becomes two more.
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56761258 wrote:
I don't think there are any cards like that. There are things that prevent you from activating activated abilities, things that increase their cost, and things that counter them, but I don't think anything triggers from them specifically. There are things that trigger from targeting, so that might be relevant, but I can't think of anything that triggers from targeting a player. I'm almost positive there's nothing that triggers from damage being prevented.
Rings of Brighthearth; Dormant Gomazoa; Samite Ministration.
56761258 wrote:
Well played.

 

I'm sure there are some Spikes out there who wouldn't mind a flavorless, inelegant card if it's good.
Tsabo's Web saw competitive play.
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I'm trying to figure out what you would do as an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos. What would that even be? You hate mechanical interactions, and you hate the flavor of the cards, so you play...

Stasis? All Stasis, all the time?


stasis is pretty flavorful.

anyway I think anyone who falls in the lower left quadrant would prolaby just not enjoy Magic.

 

Hardcore Spike-only types could probably be anti-Vorthos and anti-Melvin.  They don't really care about the design, just if something is good enough for them to win.


In order to see what's good, you really have to have some appreciation of how the abilities of cards interact in a mechanical sense. Thus, hardcore spikes are often Melvins.



What if our hypothetical Spike really didn't have any appreciation for mechanical interaction and only played with cards that he "knows" are good because someone else told him they are?
I didn't say he wouldn't care about mechanical interaction, just that he doesn't care about the elegance of design like a Melvin would.
So, a hardcore netdecker could fit the anti-melthos type?

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This forum can't even ****ing self-destruct properly.

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Yep.  That's actually probably the best example of an anti-Melvin, anti-Vorthos.
has to be a hardcore netdecker, though.  there are some vorthos-types who might netdeck just because it's a vampire deck and they love vampires.

The vorthos/melvin thing is intended to be opposite sides of the spectrum... you have to fall between them somewhere.   I forget which side of the brain is the logical one, but this is basically left vs. right brain thinking.  Melvin is the logical type of character, vorthos is the more artisitic one. 

You can't be both anti vorthos and anti melvin. They're just different viewpoints on how you see the world and enjoy things.  You either see magic as more of an artisitic game or a logical one.  Just because a hardcore spike plays a card because it's good doesn't make them one side or the other, although playing a card you don't like because it's effective is more of a melvin characteristic than a vorthos one.


Magicworkstation: melvins
Edh at your local shop: likely vorthos

You can be logically artistic.

Boom, blew your mind.
You can be logically artistic.



Oooh! Oooh! I am! I am!
*waves hand around in air* 
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97543238 wrote:
Everybody knows that having your awesome creatures killed before they can do anything is frustrating, but the Red mage in me doesn't seem to understand why it's so bad when his creatures spontaneously combust into Flame Javelins and make his opponent discard something at the same time.
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The vorthos/melvin thing is intended to be opposite sides of the spectrum... you have to fall between them somewhere.   I forget which side of the brain is the logical one, but this is basically left vs. right brain thinking.  Melvin is the logical type of character, vorthos is the more artisitic one. 

You can't be both anti vorthos and anti melvin. They're just different viewpoints on how you see the world and enjoy things.  You either see magic as more of an artisitic game or a logical one.  Just because a hardcore spike plays a card because it's good doesn't make them one side or the other, although playing a card you don't like because it's effective is more of a melvin characteristic than a vorthos one.


Magicworkstation: melvins
Edh at your local shop: likely vorthos


This is one of the goofiest dichotomies ever promoted by pop psychology. I honestly, straight up do not understand how it continues being so popular.

If this was true, no Renaissance artist would have existed, or the Cubists, or Der Stijl, or Greek architecture, or...
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I'm studying engineering and jazz right now.  Likewise, I'm a Vorthos and a Melvin.  Cuss false dichotomies!

The vorthos/melvin thing is intended to be opposite sides of the spectrum... you have to fall between them somewhere.   I forget which side of the brain is the logical one, but this is basically left vs. right brain thinking.  Melvin is the logical type of character, vorthos is the more artisitic one. 

You can't be both anti vorthos and anti melvin. They're just different viewpoints on how you see the world and enjoy things.  You either see magic as more of an artisitic game or a logical one.  Just because a hardcore spike plays a card because it's good doesn't make them one side or the other, although playing a card you don't like because it's effective is more of a melvin characteristic than a vorthos one.


Magicworkstation: melvins
Edh at your local shop: likely vorthos


This is one of the goofiest dichotomies ever promoted by pop psychology. I honestly, straight up do not understand how it continues being so popular.

If this was true, no Renaissance artist would have existed, or the Cubists, or Der Stijl, or Greek architecture, or...



What dichotomy are you talking about, the left-right brain? I haven't done any research on the subject, so I'm not calling you out or disagreeing necessarily, but I think the idea of a logical aspect of the brain alongside an artistic aspect is a useful idea, if not to be taken literally. Obviously no one uses just one or the other throughout their lives or even at a particular moment, but you can definitely look at them as two different ways of thinking.

The vorthos/melvin thing is intended to be opposite sides of the spectrum... you have to fall between them somewhere.   I forget which side of the brain is the logical one, but this is basically left vs. right brain thinking.  Melvin is the logical type of character, vorthos is the more artisitic one. 

You can't be both anti vorthos and anti melvin. They're just different viewpoints on how you see the world and enjoy things.  You either see magic as more of an artisitic game or a logical one.  Just because a hardcore spike plays a card because it's good doesn't make them one side or the other, although playing a card you don't like because it's effective is more of a melvin characteristic than a vorthos one.


Magicworkstation: melvins
Edh at your local shop: likely vorthos


This is one of the goofiest dichotomies ever promoted by pop psychology. I honestly, straight up do not understand how it continues being so popular.

If this was true, no Renaissance artist would have existed, or the Cubists, or Der Stijl, or Greek architecture, or...



What dichotomy are you talking about, the left-right brain? I haven't done any research on the subject, so I'm not calling you out or disagreeing necessarily, but I think the idea of a logical aspect of the brain alongside an artistic aspect is a useful idea, if not to be taken literally. Obviously no one uses just one or the other throughout their lives or even at a particular moment, but you can definitely look at them as two different ways of thinking.



I'm pretty sure he was referring to the innane notion that artistic/creative and logical are on two opposite sides of the spectrum, and if you're more artistic you're less logical and vice-versa.

It's similar to (and as innaccurate as) the idea that the smart someone is the less emotional they'll be. In fact, they have found the exact opposite to be true. Intellectually gifted people tend to have more intense emotions.
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97543238 wrote:
Everybody knows that having your awesome creatures killed before they can do anything is frustrating, but the Red mage in me doesn't seem to understand why it's so bad when his creatures spontaneously combust into Flame Javelins and make his opponent discard something at the same time.
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I'm studying engineering and jazz right now.  Likewise, I'm a Vorthos and a Melvin.  Cuss false dichotomies!

This is one of the most awesome combinations of fields that I've ever heard.

I'm seeing stuff like this much more often these days. I think science and the (liberal) arts are slowly but surely coming back together. Which is absolutely fantastic, as there's so much we can learn from combining seemingly distant subjects.

@Losenas:

You got it. That's my complaint exactly. Although, I've also read that the left-right dichotomy is, in and of itself, very misleading, oversimplified, and more a product of pop psychology than actual neuroscience. I can't really back that up with any concrete sources, though, so I could be totally wrong on that front.

I'm curious, though, about the findings you mentioned. I feel like kind of a hypocrit asking for sources, here, but do you happen to have anything you could link to? I'm really interested in this kind of thing.
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@Losenas:

I'm curious, though, about the findings you mentioned. I feel like kind of a hypocrit asking for sources, here, but do you happen to have anything you could link to? I'm really interested in this kind of thing.



Of course! Hmm... I don't know if I have any source studies to reference, I read a lot of articles and whatnot from people who study the topic (and a lot of scientific studies require paying a database to view lol). SENG (Supporting Emotional Needs of Gifted), as implied by the name, is concerned with this and has some articles on it, this article talks about how emotional intensity can manifest and how people around gifted individuals chan help deal with it (especially parents raising gifted children... the orgainziation seems to be biased towards children overall).

This article, from Duke University (which claims to be "a global leader in identifying academically gifted students and providing them with opportunities to support their development), explains 'overexcitabilities' in general. Dabrowski originally came up with the theory of overexcitablities and it has become generally accepted by people studying the intellectually gifted.

Are those two enough? Anything else you're curious about? I love sharing the things I have randomly read about when I'm bored. ^_^
Stop using "IMO" in sentences that aren't opinion. If you don't think a deck will ever be tier 1, that's great - but it's not an opinion. It's a prediction of the future. I identify as neither male nor female. You may refer to me with either gender pronoun or the singular they, whichever suits you best. ^_^ Re: Dismember
97543238 wrote:
Everybody knows that having your awesome creatures killed before they can do anything is frustrating, but the Red mage in me doesn't seem to understand why it's so bad when his creatures spontaneously combust into Flame Javelins and make his opponent discard something at the same time.
Currently Working On: Self-Mill (Standard)
I'm studying engineering and jazz right now.  Likewise, I'm a Vorthos and a Melvin.  Cuss false dichotomies!

This is one of the most awesome combinations of fields that I've ever heard.

I'm seeing stuff like this much more often these days. I think science and the (liberal) arts are slowly but surely coming back together. Which is absolutely fantastic, as there's so much we can learn from combining seemingly distant subjects.

@Losenas:

You got it. That's my complaint exactly. Although, I've also read that the left-right dichotomy is, in and of itself, very misleading, oversimplified, and more a product of pop psychology than actual neuroscience. I can't really back that up with any concrete sources, though, so I could be totally wrong on that front.

I'm curious, though, about the findings you mentioned. I feel like kind of a hypocrit asking for sources, here, but do you happen to have anything you could link to? I'm really interested in this kind of thing.

Sadly, they're not actually related.  My engineering is for the medical field and the music is just because I like music and apparently I hate free time.  But still, the point I was trying to contribute to is that logic and creativity are not mutually exclusive.
@SleetFox:

You should totally make them related. Just for the potential awesomeness. Come on, you know using engineering skills to build jazz machines would be incredibly badass.

@Losenas:

Haha, no, this is good for now. Thanks a lot! I'm sure I can do something interesting with this information.

Although, actually, if you do have any kind of random articles about the intersection of the arts and sciences, I would love to see them. I'm always eager for more information on that topic.

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@Losenas:

Although, actually, if you do have any kind of random articles about the intersection of the arts and sciences, I would love to see them. I'm always eager for more information on that topic.



Hmm... I was reading a lot about that a few years ago, I'll see if I can dig up some of them tomorrow. ^_^

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97543238 wrote:
Everybody knows that having your awesome creatures killed before they can do anything is frustrating, but the Red mage in me doesn't seem to understand why it's so bad when his creatures spontaneously combust into Flame Javelins and make his opponent discard something at the same time.
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I gotta agree with Qmark on this one. 
We have all these different names for things, but it does boil down to "Us vs Them".

When a Spike plays a Timmy, it's obvious who's who. But when a Johnny plays a Timmy, Johnny becomes the "Spike" (this is barring absolutely terrible, 36-card combos). When Timmy is sitting across from a Melvin, constantly walking is Big Ass Monster across into his opponents face, while Melvin is bored because all of his opponents' creatures are 'vanilla', and thus uninteresting, then all of a sudden Timmy becomes the "Fun Killer" just like the Spike that steamrolls n00bs at your local FNM.

Same if a Timmy does the aforementioned steamrolling while sitting across from a Vorthos who is trying, for Unbeknownst Reasons, to tell the story of how he and his girlfriend had broken up through a "deck" that he wants to play with.

Same with "Don't Counter My Spells" versus "Learn To Play Around Counterspells". "Don't steamroll me till I have an army" versus "Play faster creatures or efficient answers to mine". Etc, etc.

What am I? Who knows. I like to win, so I guess the "Spike" nomenclature applies, but my favorite two creatures are Kozilek and Craw Wurm, and my favorite enchantment is Dovescape. I could say "Karl is a Timmy/Spike" or I could be honest and say "I (us) am the guy that wants to play Magic (versus) to beat my opponent (them)".

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58335208 wrote:
Disregard women acquire chase rares.
There are a lot of dudes for whom this is not optional.
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How;s a 2 drop 1/2, Flying broken? What am I missing?
You're missing it because *turns Storm Crows sideways* all your base are belong to Chuck Norris and every other overused meme ever.
Someone who just netdecks potentially still cares about the way magic is played, because he's playing magic for a reason. That probably means he cares about mechanical interactions to some degrree. They'd also be more apathetic than "anti-melvin anti-vorthos".

Anti-melvin would probably seek to actively reduce mechanical complexity in the game. They'd support single-function cards. They'd be against work-arounds, solutions, and anything that twists the game around. That'd be an extreme ant-melvin, anyway.

Timmy, Johnny, and Spike are most identifiable by what /they/ care about. Pure Johnny is apparently alright with losing 9 games if on the 10th he gets to see his combo go off. Spike wants to win as many games as possible. Timmy does whatever Timmy does. It's never that straight-forward, but the classification apparently helps with card design.

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