First Annual OTTer Pigskin Picks

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    This is a fun little game that anybody here on these boards can play, but is mainly made because many of us regulars here on the Off Topic Tavern love the sport of Football.

    Rules:

    Rules
    Your score is calculated as Wins to Losses. Or basically the more wins you have the better you're doing and the person with the most wins is the one leading this friendly competition. No point spreads will factor into this game of ours. It is simply Wins to Losses.

    If you miss or forget to list picks for the week you'll receive a loss for each game played that week. Basically you'd have effectively guessed wrong for each game by default. Same goes for if you want to jump into the game mid season. You will receive a loss for every game played. (total games played isn't too important since it is wins that calculate out the leaders of this competition, but I like to keep a nice equal total for everyone's score.

    Picks must be sent in before the games have started. As of right now the only game exempt will be the first game of the season (saints vs packers) of which if you can link me to a post of you supporting either team before their game started it will count for your pick for that team. This is all due to us being a bit slow with setting this thingy up.

    All picks must be posted here for public record. This way there can be no claims of cheating with private submissions and whatnot. Basically the person receiving the submissions helping a brotha' out. I will try and take a photo of all picks before games are started so as to make sure nobody cheats since these boards do not seem to have a notification of when a post was edited or any notice of editing period.

    57224698 wrote:

    OK new rule amendment thingy. All picks are considered final at 10pm PST Saturday. The only exception will be for those rare Thursday night games in which those games will final at Noon PST Thursday.

    I'm not always going to be waking up super early on Sundays so Saturday nights should be good.



    If you are caught cheating you will auto lose the season.

    Please keep all talk out of this thread. It is not meant for socializing. Just listing picks and current scores. Please keep all talk about NFL here.

    As of right now I cannot think of anything else. More rules may be added (but hopefully wont mess with scoring that has already been done. I will also likely try and clean up these rules so they sound/read better.


    Prize:

    Bragging rights!

    Week 1

    Week 1 Games
    NO vs GB*
    PIT vs BAL
    ATL vs CHI
    CIN vs CLE
    IND vs HOU
    TEN vs JAC
    BUF vs KC
    PHI vs STL
    DET vs TB
    CAR vs ARI
    MIND vs SD
    SEA vs SF
    NYG vs WAS
    DAL vs NYJ
    NE vs MIA
    OAK vs DEN
    ___________
    *Game was played before this was set up. Please link me to the thread that you placed your support for one team or the other. Please do this in the post where you list your picks to help reduce clutter.
    Week 1 Results

    KillerGM: 12 - 4
    bone_naga: 9 - 7
    Jetshield: 9 - 7
    dirtyfrank: 8 - 8
    grehnhewe: 8 - 8
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8
    draco1119: 7 - 9
    Cpt_Micha: 5 - 11
    Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 11
    Zombie_Babies*: 3 - 13
    _________________
    * ZB wanted his name asterisked so that he doesn't look like the browns. Read thread for further info on his score.

    Week 2
    Week 2 Games
    Kansas City @ Detroit
    Oakland @ Buffalo
    Tampa Bay @ Minnesota
    Chicago @ New Orleans
    Baltimore @ Tennessee
    Cleveland @ Indianapolis
    Jacksonville @ NY Jets
    Seattle @ Pittsburgh
    Arizona @ Washington
    Green Bay @ Carolina
    Dallas @ San Francisco
    San Diego @ New England
    Houston @ Miami
    Cincinnati @ Denver
    Philadelphia @ Atlanta
    St. Louis @ NY Giants
    Week 2 Results

    Jetshield:
    13 - 3
    Zombie_Babies: 13 - 3
    dirtyfrank: 11 - 5
    bone_naga: 10 - 6
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 9 - 7
    Cpt_Micha: 8 - 8
    draco1119: 8 - 8
    grehnhewe: 7 - 9
    KillerGM: 3 - 13
    Robin_Hoodlum: 0 - 16

    Week 3
    Week 3 Games
    Houston at New Orleans
    NY Giants at Philadelphia
    Jacksonville at Carolina
    New England at Buffalo
    Miami at Cleveland
    San Francisco at Cincinnati
    Denver at Tennessee
    Detroit at Minnesota
    Baltimore at St. Louis
    NY Jets at Oakland
    Kansas City at San Diego
    Arizona at Seattle
    Atlanta at Tampa Bay
    Green Bay at Chicago
    Pittsburgh at Indianapolis
    Washington at Dallas
    Week 3 Results

    draco1119:
    13 - 3

    dirtyfrank: 11 - 5
    Jetshield: 11 - 5
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 11 - 5
    Cpt_Micha: 10 - 6
    grehnhewe: 10 - 6
    Zombie_Babies: 10 - 6
    bone_naga: 9 - 7
    KillerGM: 7 - 9
    Robin_Hoodlum: 0 - 16

    Week 4
    Week 4 Games
    Detroit at Dallas
    Carolina at Chicago
    Buffalo at Cincinnati
    Tennessee at Cleveland
    Minnesota at Kansas City
    Washington at St. Louis
    New Orleans at Jacksonville
    Pittsburgh at Houston
    San Francisco at Philadelphia
    NY Giants at Arizona
    Atlanta at Seattle
    Miami at San Diego
    New England at Oakland
    Denver at Green Bay
    NY Jets at Baltimore
    Indianapolis at Tampa Bay
    Week 4 Results
    Jetshield: 13 - 3
    dirtyfrank: 13 - 3
    draco1119:
    12 - 4
    Zombie_Babies: 12 - 4
    Cpt_Micha: 11 - 5
    grehnhewe: 11 - 5
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8
    KillerGM: 0 - 16
    bone_naga: 0 - 16

    Week 5
    Week 5 games
    Tennessee at Pittsburgh
    Cincinnati at Jacksonville
    New Orleans at Carolina
    Oakland at Houston
    Philadelphia at Buffalo
    Arizona at Minnesota
    Kansas City at Indianapolis
    Seattle at Giants
    Tampa Bay at San Francisco
    San Diego at Denver
    Jets at New England
    Green Bay at Atlanta
    Chicago at Detroit
    Week 5 Results
    draco1119: 9 - 4
    Jetshield: 9 - 4
    grehnhewe: 9 - 4
    KillerGM: 9 - 4
    dirtyfrank: 8 - 5
    Zombie_Babies: 7 - 6
    Cpt_Micha: 7 - 6
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 5 - 8
    bone_naga: 0 - 16

    Week 6
    Week 6 games
    San Francisco at Detroit
    St. Louis at Green Bay
    Carolina at Atlanta
    Indianapolis at Cincinnati
    Buffalo at NY Giants
    Jacksonville at Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia at Washington
    Houston at Baltimore
    Cleveland at Oakland
    Dallas at New England
    New Orleans at Tampa Bay
    Minnesota at Chicago
    Miami at NY Jets
    Week 6 Results
    Jetshield: 10 - 3
    dirtyfrank: 10 - 3
    Zombie_Babies: 10 - 3
    Cpt_Micha: 8 - 5
    grehnhewe: 7 - 6
    draco1119: 5 - 8
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 5 - 8
    KillerGM: 3 - 10
    bone_naga: 0 - 13

    Week 7
    Week 7 games
    San Diego at NY Jets
    Chicago at Tampa Bay
    Washington at Carolina
    Atlanta at Detroit
    Seattle at Cleveland
    Denver at Miami
    Houston at Tennessee
    Kansas City at Oakland
    Pittsburgh at Arizona
    Green Bay at Minnesota
    St. Louis at Dallas
    Indianapolis at New Orleans
    Baltimore at Jacksonville
    Week 7 Results
    Cpt_Micha: 10 - 3
    draco1119: 10 - 3
    Zombie_Babies: 9 - 4
    Tunder_Dragonbane: 9 - 4
    grehnhewe: 8 - 5
    Jetshield: 8 - 5
    dirtyfrank: 7 - 6
    KillerGM: 5 - 8
    bone_naga: 0 - 13

    Week 8
    Week 8 games
    Arizona at Baltimore
    Minnesota at Carolina
    Jacksonville at Houston
    Miami at NY Giants
    New Orleans at St. Louis
    Indianapolis at Tennessee
    Detroit at Denver
    Washington at Buffalo
    Cincinnati at Seattle
    Cleveland at San Francisco
    New England at Pittsburgh
    Dallas at Philadelphia
    San Diego at Kansas City
    Week 8 Results
    Thunder_Dragonbane: 11 - 2
    Cpt_Micha:
    9 - 4

    Zombie_Babies: 9 - 4
    grehnhewe: 9 - 4
    Jetshield: 9 - 4
    dirtyfrank: 9 - 4
    draco1119: 7 - 6

    KillerGM: 5 - 8

    Week 9
    Week 9 games
    Miami at Kansas City
    Atlanta at Indianapolis
    Tampa Bay at New Orleans
    NY Jets at Buffalo
    Seattle at Dallas
    Cleveland at Houston
    San Francisco at Washington
    Cincinnati at Tennessee
    Denver at Oakland
    NY Giants at New England
    St. Louis at Arizona
    Green Bay at San Diego
    Baltimore at Pittsburgh
    Chicago at Philadelphia
    Week 9 Results
    KillerGM: 8 - 6
    Zombie_Babies:
    8 - 6
    draco1119:
    8 - 6
    dirtyfrank:
    7 - 7
    Thunder_Dragonbne:
    6 - 8

    grehnhewe: 6 - 8
    Jetshield: 0 - 14
    Cpt_Micha: 0 - 14

    Week 10
    Week 10 games
    Oakland at San Diego
    Arizona at Philadelphia
    Tennessee at Carolina     
    Houston at Tampa Bay     
    Washington at Miami
    Jacksonville at Indianapolis     
    Denver at Kansas City     
    Buffalo at Dallas     
    New Orleans at Atlanta     
    St. Louis at Cleveland
    Pittsburgh at Cincinnati
    Baltimore at Seattle
    NY Giants at San Francisco
    Detroit at Chicago     
    New England at NY Jets
    Minnesota at Green Bay
    Week 10 Results
    KillerGM: 10 - 6
    draco1119: 8 - 8
    Jetshield: 8 - 8
    Zombie_Babies: 8 - 8
    dirtyfrank: 7 - 9
    Cpt_Micha: 7 - 9
    grehnhewe: 6 - 10
    Thunder_Dragonbane: 6 - 10 

    Week 11
    Week 11 games
    NY Jets at Denver 
    Tampa Bay at Green Bay 
    Carolina at Detroit
    Jacksonville at Cleveland
    Oakland at Minnesota 
    Buffalo at Miami 
    Dallas at Washington
    Cincinnati at Baltimore
    Arizona at San Francisco
    Seattle at St. Louis 
    Tennessee at Atlanta 
    San Diego at Chicago 
    Philadelphia at NY Giants 
    Kansas City at New England
    Week 11 Results
    dirtyfrank: 12 - 1
    Jetshield:
    11 - 2
    Zombie_Babies:
    11 - 2
    grehnhewe:
    9 - 4
    draco1119:
    8 - 5
    Thunder_Dragonbane:
    8 - 5
    Cpt_Micha:
    5 - 8
    KillerGM:
    4 - 9

    Week 12
    Week 12 games
    Green Bay at Detroit
    Miami at Dallas
    San Francisco at Baltimore
    Houston at Jacksonville
    Buffalo at NY Jets
    Cleveland at Cincinnati
    Minnesota at Atlanta
    Arizona at St. Louis
    Carolina at Indianapolis
    Tampa Bay at Tennessee
    Chicago at Oakland
    Washington at Seattle
    Denver at San Diego
    New England at Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh at Kansas City      
    NY Giants at New Orleans
    Week 12 Results
    dirtyfrank: 14 - 2
    Cpt_Micha: 14 - 2
    Jetshield: 12 - 4
    Zombie_Babies:
    12 - 4
    draco1119:
    11 - 5
    grehnhewe:
    10 - 6
    Thunder_Dragonbane:
    9 - 7
    KillerGM:
    8 - 8

    Week 13
    Week 13 games
    Philadelphia at Seattle     
    Carolina at Tampa Bay
    Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
    Atlanta at Houston
    NY Jets at Washington
    Indianapolis at New England
    Oakland at Miami
    Denver at Minnesota
    Tennessee at Buffalo
    Kansas City at Chicago
    Baltimore at Cleveland
    Dallas at Arizona
    Green Bay at NY Giants
    St. Louis at San Francisco
    Detroit at New Orleans
    San Diego at Jacksonville
    Week 13 Results
    dirtyfrank: 10 - 6
    Cpt_Micha: 10 - 6
    draco1119: 10 - 6
    grehnhewe: 9 - 7
    Jetshield: 9 - 7
    Zombie_Babies: 8 - 8
    Thunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8
    KillerGM: 8 - 8

    Week 14
    Week 14 games
    Cleveland at Pittsburgh
    Kansas City at NY Jets
    Tampa Bay at Jacksonville
    New England at Washington
    Atlanta at Carolina
    Indianapolis at Baltimore
    Philadelphia at Miami
    Minnesota at Detroit
    New Orleans at Tennessee
    Houston at Cincinnati
    Chicago at Denver
    San Francisco at Arizona
    Buffalo at San Diego
    Oakland at Green Bay
    NY Giants at Dallas
    St. Louis at Seattle
    Week 14 Results
    draco1119: 13 - 3
    dirtyfrank: 12 - 4
    Zombie_Babies: 12 - 4
    Cpt_Micha: 11 - 5
    grehnhewe:
    11 - 5
    Jetshield: 11- 5
    Thunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8
    KillerGM:
    6 - 10

    Week 15
    Week 15 games
    Jacksonville at Atlanta
    Dallas at Tampa Bay
    Carolina at Houston
    Washington at NY Giants
    Miami at Buffalo
    Seattle at Chicago
    New Orleans at Minnesota
    Cincinnati at St. Louis
    Tennessee at Indianapolis
    Green Bay at Kansas City
    Detroit at Oakland
    New England at Denver
    NY Jets at Philadelphia
    Cleveland at Arizona
    Baltimore at San Diego
    Pittsburgh at San Francisco

    Week 16
    Week 16 games
    Houston at Indianapolis
    Oakland at Kansas City
    Jacksonville at Tennessee
    Miami at New England
    Arizona at Cincinnati
    Denver at Buffalo
    St. Louis at Pittsburgh
    NY Giants at NY Jets
    Minnesota at Washington
    Tampa Bay at Carolina
    Cleveland at Baltimore
    San Diego at Detroit
    Philadelphia at Dallas
    San Francisco at Seattle
    Chicago at Green Bay
    Atlanta at New Orleans

    Week 17
    Week 17 games
    Carolina at New Orleans
    Buffalo at New England
    Chicago at Minnesota
    NY Jets at Miami
    San Francisco at St. Louis
    Detroit at Green Bay
    Washington at Philadelphia
    Indianapolis at Jacksonville
    Tennessee at Houston
    Seattle at Arizona
    Kansas City at Denver
    Tampa Bay at Atlanta
    Baltimore at Cincinnati
    Pittsburgh at Cleveland
    San Diego at Oakland
    Dallas at NY Giants


    Season Results
    dirtyfrank: 139 - 68
    Jetshield: 133 - 74
    Zombie_Babies: 132 - 75
    draco1119: 129 - 78
    grehnhewe: 120 - 87
    Cpt_Micha: 115 - 92
    Thunder_Dragonbane: 111 - 96
    KillerGM: 88 - 119





        Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

        Week 1

        NO vs GB* Uh... I totally picked Green Bay, but tha intrawebz ate my posts... 
        PIT
        CHI
        CLE
        HOU
        JAC
        KC
        PHI
        DET
        CAR
        MIN
        SF
        NYG
        DAL
        NE
        DEN

        My picks.  And I hate the fact that I had to NOT choose Oakland.  *sigh*

        EDIT: As of 8:55am Central Time Saturday, I have changed my pick from the Rams to the Eagles.  That is all.
        "Today's headlines and history's judgment are rarely the same. If you are too attentive to the former, you will most certainly not do the hard work of securing the latter." -Condoleezza Rice "My fellow Americans... I've just signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. Bombing begins in five minutes." - Ronald Reagan This user has been banned from you by the letters "O-R-C" and the numbers "2, 3, 4, and 6"
        User Quotes
        56788208 wrote:
        I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
        Tempest_Stormwind on Character Optimization
        So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
        When she meets CJ's mom?
        Resident Pithed-Off Dragon Poon Slayer of the House of Trolls
        GB
        PIT
        ATL
        CLE
        HOU
        TEN
        KC
        PHI
        TB
        ARI
        SD
        SF
        NYG
        NYJ
        NE
        DEN

        These shall be my picks for this weekend.

        Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

        Week 1

        NO vs GB
        PIT vs BAL
        ATL vs CHI
        CIN vs CLE
        IND vs HOU
        TEN vs JAC
        BUF vs KC
        PHI vs STL
        DET vs TB
        CAR vs ARI
        MIN vs SD
        SEA vs SF
        NYG vs WAS
        DAL vs NYJ
        NE vs MIA
        OAK vs DEN
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            Pit
            Atl
            Cin
            Ind
            Ten
            KC
            STL
            TB
            Arz
            Min
            SF
            Was
            Dal
            NE
            Den


            ...
            This reminds me, I gotta go draft for fantasy!!
            "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
            Week 1

            NO vs GB*
            PIT vs BAL
            ATL vs CHI
            CIN vs CLE
            IND vs HOU
            TEN vs JAC
            BUF vs KC
            PHI vs STL
            DET vs TB
            CAR vs ARI
            MIN vs SD
            SEA vs SF
            NYG vs WAS
            DAL vs NYJ
            NE vs MIA
            OAK vs DEN


            Benevolent God of Death "No one told you when to run."
            These be my picks:

            Week 1


            NO vs GB*
             

            PIT
            ATL
            CIN
            HOU
            TEN
            KC
            PHI
            TB
            ARI
            SD
            SF
            NYG
            NYJ
            NE
            DEN

            (Good show setting this up df!)
            Chelsea FC - winner of 2012 FA Cup and Champions League Champions of Europe! Three Lions Resident Footie

            What's with all the Baltimore picks?!


            Pittsburgh WILL win, let there be no doubt!

            Edit: After paying more attention, I discovered more people are voting for the 'Burgh...
            It's gonna be a good game! We don't like B-more, and B-more don't like us. And I wouldn't want it any other way.
            "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
            See edit for post #2, please.

            "Today's headlines and history's judgment are rarely the same. If you are too attentive to the former, you will most certainly not do the hard work of securing the latter." -Condoleezza Rice "My fellow Americans... I've just signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. Bombing begins in five minutes." - Ronald Reagan This user has been banned from you by the letters "O-R-C" and the numbers "2, 3, 4, and 6"
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            56788208 wrote:
            I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
            Tempest_Stormwind on Character Optimization
            So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
            When she meets CJ's mom?
            Resident Pithed-Off Dragon Poon Slayer of the House of Trolls
            To be honest GB is the only one I actually care about, but here it goes.

            NO vs GB* - GB of course, that's my team, I even have their flag flying in front of my house
            PIT vs BAL - BAL
            ATL vs CHI - ATL
            CIN vs CLE - CIN
            IND vs HOU - HOU
            TEN vs JAC - TEN
            BUF vs KC - KC
            PHI vs STL - PHI
            DET vs TB - DET
            CAR vs ARI - ARI
            MIND vs SD - MIN
            SEA vs SF - SF
            NYG vs WAS - NYG
            DAL vs NYJ - NYJ
            NE vs MIA - NE
            OAK vs DEN - DEN
            Owner and Proprietor of the House of Trolls. God of ownership and possession.

            PIT vs BAL - BAL




            "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse."- John Stuart Mill “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”― William F. Buckley "The straw in your man is amazing."- Maxperson Original Hipster of the House of Trolls: I was hipster before hipster was cool Resident Hater Mini Hate Machine
            Steelers are getting more love than SD.  Everyone should know how well the Chargers start out their seasons.Sealed

            Edit: now up to 3 out of 9!
            Chelsea FC - winner of 2012 FA Cup and Champions League Champions of Europe! Three Lions Resident Footie
            PIT vs BALThis is a tough call.  On the principle that I'm supposed to hate Modell more than the Steelers.  Steelers.
            ATL vs CHI Bears look good.  But I'm an NFC South man. Falcons
            CIN vs CLE   Cincincatti
            IND vs HOU  Houstan
            TEN vs JAC  Ten
            BUF vs KC  Buffalo.
            PHI vs STL  Eagles
            DET vs TB   Tampa Bay.
            CAR vs ARI  Go go Cardiac Cats.
            MIND vs SD SD all the way.
            SEA vs SF  Seahawks
            NYG vs WAS   Giants.
            DAL vs NYJ  Dallas
            NE vs MIA  Miami has been getting better every year. MIA
            OAK vs DEN   Denver.
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            community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...! Post 12? May count, may not. Not really sure.


            Sorry, your post was 2 hours after the game start. It will not count.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            *trotts in*

            *puts down soap box*

            *climbs on soap box*

            I'm pig-titioning against this thread! How many of my kinsmen have died for your amusement?! This horror shall be put to an end now!
            Resident Piggles Zombie piggy is eatin' your sigs om nom nom (>*o*)>
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            For football? None. Pig bladders haven't been used to make footballs since the late 1800s.



            edit: My apologies to everyone. I thought I was in the "Are you ready for some football" thread.
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            OKie Dokie I've recorded everyone's picks with snapshots. I'd like to ask for nobody to make changes to their picks at this point, but not like it matters since I'll be going off of the screen shots when I do the scoring.

            Good Luck to everyone.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            OKie Dokie I've recorded everyone's picks with snapshots. I'd like to ask for nobody to make changes to their picks at this point, but not like it matters since I'll be going off of the screen shots when I do the scoring.
            Good Luck to everyone.

            JUst to make sure: You did get a screenshot of my edited post, not the original, correct?  Only change I made was to have Philly over the Rams.

            "Today's headlines and history's judgment are rarely the same. If you are too attentive to the former, you will most certainly not do the hard work of securing the latter." -Condoleezza Rice "My fellow Americans... I've just signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. Bombing begins in five minutes." - Ronald Reagan This user has been banned from you by the letters "O-R-C" and the numbers "2, 3, 4, and 6"
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            56788208 wrote:
            I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
            Tempest_Stormwind on Character Optimization
            So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
            When she meets CJ's mom?
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            OKie Dokie I've recorded everyone's picks with snapshots. I'd like to ask for nobody to make changes to their picks at this point, but not like it matters since I'll be going off of the screen shots when I do the scoring.
            Good Luck to everyone.

            JUst to make sure: You did get a screenshot of my edited post, not the original, correct?  Only change I made was to have Philly over the Rams.



            yes the screen shot was from after you edited your pick the other day. I even have the edit note in the screenshot.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            Dammit.  Sucks I missed the first week!  I'll still play, though.  To be honest, I sucked pretty hard with the picks I would have made anyway. 

            When's week 2 gonna be posted?

            EDIT: Mon, Sept 12: New England is my pick.
            EDIT2: Oakland is my other pick for the Mon night games (if these count).
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            Either on Monday nights or Tuesday mornings I'll tally up the points and then post the games for the next week. I just pulled an all-niter getting some homework done so don't expect any of that to be done until Tuesday mornings since I'll likely be falling asleep once I get home from school.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            Cool.  Does my edited pick count or was that too late, too?
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            Cool.  Does my edited pick count or was that too late, too?


            That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above.

            I'm trying to think of when an official lock on picks should be. I'm thinking sunday morning or saturday night with the exception being thursday morning for thursday games. I'm thinking of doing that for the future. This way most picks don't need to be made until friday or saturday while only a pick or whatnot needs to be rushed in any sense.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            Cool.  Does my edited pick count or was that too late, too?


            That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above.

            I'll vouch for him having backed Green Bay before the game.  Should be early in the "Are you ready for some football" thread and/or in the "Benefits of Playing for UM" thread in the HoT.

            Here's one from the morning of 9/8 (Thursday)

            And here's another from the afternoon of 9/7 (Wednesday)
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            56788208 wrote:
            I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
            Tempest_Stormwind on Character Optimization
            So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
            When she meets CJ's mom?
            Resident Pithed-Off Dragon Poon Slayer of the House of Trolls
            That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above.

            I'm trying to think of when an official lock on picks should be. I'm thinking sunday morning or saturday night with the exception being thursday morning for thursday games. I'm thinking of doing that for the future. This way most picks don't need to be made until friday or saturday while only a pick or whatnot needs to be rushed in any sense.



            First, I edited again adding my pick for the other game (Oakland).  Sorry, I probably shoulda just made a new post.  Second, thanks to draco for finding that stuff!  I pretty much always pick GB because they're my NFC team.  And my favorite team overall, really.  I've had their back since the Majkowski era, too, so I ain't no Favre youknowwhathugger or a frontrunner either! 

            Those locks sound like they'd work fine.  Yep.
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            Week 2 games

            SUN, SEP 18
            Kansas City @ Detroit
            Oakland @ Buffalo
            Tampa Bay @ Minnesota
            Chicago @ New Orleans
            Baltimore @ Tennessee
            Cleveland @ Indianapolis
            Jacksonville @ NY Jets
            Seattle @ Pittsburgh
            Arizona @ Washington
            Green Bay @ Carolina
            Dallas @ San Francisco
            San Diego @ New England
            Houston @ Miami
            Cincinnati @ Denver
            Philadelphia @ Atlanta

            MON, SEP 19
            St. Louis @ NY Giants

            Edited to give game days. I can add start times too, if anyone wants.
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            ZB's week 2 winners:

            Detroit
            Oakland
            Tampa Bay
            New Orleans
            Baltimore
            Cleveland 
            NY Jets
            Pittsburgh
            Washington
            Green Bay
            Dallas
            New England
            Houston
            Denver
            Philadelphia
            NY Giants
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            Detroit
            Oakland
            Minnesota
            New Orleans
            Baltimore
            Cleveland
            NY Jets
            Pittsburgh
            Arizona
            Green Bay
            San Francisco
            New England
            Houston
            Denver
            Philadelphia
            NY Giants

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            Week 2 games

            Kansas City @ Detroit DET
            Oakland @ Buffalo OAK
            Tampa Bay @ Minnesota MIN
            Chicago @ New Orleans CHI
            Baltimore @ Tennessee BLT :-p
            Cleveland @ Indianapolis CLE
            Jacksonville @ NY Jets JAC
            Seattle @ Pittsburgh PIT
            Arizona @ Washington ARI
            Green Bay @ Carolina GB
            Dallas @ San Francisco SF
            San Diego @ New England NE
            Houston @ Miami HOU
            Cincinnati @ Denver DEN
            Philadelphia @ Atlanta PHI
            St. Louis @ NY Giants NYG

            Done

            Edited pick for Browns/Colts
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            56788208 wrote:
            I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
            Tempest_Stormwind on Character Optimization
            So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
            When she meets CJ's mom?
            Resident Pithed-Off Dragon Poon Slayer of the House of Trolls
            Nope. There won't be a Thursday game until week 10.

            St. Louis @ NY Giants is the week 2 Monday night game.
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            That pick is before the Monday game (and you've not made any picks yet) so I'll say it's good. Also there are two games tonight. Um also did you back either green bay or new Orleans before that game Thursday? If yes and you can link to it I will count that since I've already states such up above.

            I'm trying to think of when an official lock on picks should be. I'm thinking sunday morning or saturday night with the exception being thursday morning for thursday games. I'm thinking of doing that for the future. This way most picks don't need to be made until friday or saturday while only a pick or whatnot needs to be rushed in any sense.



            First, I edited again adding my pick for the other game (Oakland).  Sorry, I probably shoulda just made a new post.  Second, thanks to draco for finding that stuff!  I pretty much always pick GB because they're my NFC team.  And my favorite team overall, really.  I've had their back since the Majkowski era, too, so I ain't no Favre youknowwhathugger or a frontrunner either! 

            Those locks sound like they'd work fine.  Yep.

            Since I'm screen shotting all picks once they're finalized and whatnot I find it better if they're all in once place. That way I only need 1 pic file and no editing.

            Thanks for posting the next week games. It's probably good to give everyone an extra day to think about it.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            SUN, SEP 18
            Kansas City @ Detroit
            Oakland @ Buffalo
            Tampa Bay @ Minnesota
            Chicago @ New Orleans
            Baltimore @ Tennessee
            Cleveland @ Indianapolis
            Jacksonville @ NY Jets
            Seattle @ Pittsburgh
            Arizona @ Washington
            Green Bay @ Carolina
            Dallas @ San Francisco
            San Diego @ New England
            Houston @ Miami
            Cincinnati @ Denver
            Philadelphia @ Atlanta

            MON, SEP 19
            St. Louis @ NY Giants

            Hey, df, maybe you can do an edit in the OP with the current scores of people playing?  Something to keep track of what's been going on, who's in the lead, etc.

            EDIT: Also, if I ever miss a week, I will always vote for the Eagles > 49ers > Vikings > Raiders, in that preference (if they play each other, otherwise, vote for them in any of their games).
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            Week 1 Results

            KillerGM: 12 - 4
            bone_naga: 9 - 7
            Jetshield: 9 - 7
            dirtyfrank: 8 - 8
            grehnhewe: 8 - 8
            Tunder_Dragonbane: 8 - 8
            draco1119: 7 - 9
            Cpt_Micha: 5 - 11
            Robin_Hoodlum: 5 - 11
            Zombie_Babies*: 3 - 13

            TD: you need to clearify one of your picks for me since you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state. Everyone please try and list only one of those two things with picks. If it isn't obvious to me in the future as to who you picked I'll just mark it off as a loss.

            I'll update the weekly scores with a post. I'll also put the weekly scores in the OP along with season totals.
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            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            Dood, asteriks my name or somethin'!  That 3-13 makes me look like the Browns! 
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            you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state


            I'm guessing you're referring to his "dogs" pick. That was clearly a pick for Cleveland. The Dawg Pound is the name of the bleacher section behind the east end zone in Cleveland Browns Stadium.
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            you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state


            I'm guessing you're referring to his "dogs" pick. That was clearly a pick for Cleveland. The Dawg Pound is the name of the bleacher section behind the east end zone in Cleveland Browns Stadium.


            OK thanks and that is something I did not know.

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            you gave a pick that wasn't a team name or city/state


            I'm guessing you're referring to his "dogs" pick. That was clearly a pick for Cleveland. The Dawg Pound is the name of the bleacher section behind the east end zone in Cleveland Browns Stadium.

            Hmm... Does that mean that I can express a pick for my beloved Raiders by referencing "that festering, seething, Black Hole of inhumanity"?

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            56788208 wrote:
            I do, however, have one last lesson on this subject. That last one? The only build in this post that can one-shot average opponents[by dealing twice as much damage as they have HP? I would argue that it is not optimized. Why isn't it optimized? Because it's overkill. Overkill is NOT optimizing. This means that there are portions of this build dedicated to damage which can safely be removed and thrown elsewhere. For example, you probably don't need both Leap Attack AND Headlong Rush at the same time. You could pick up Extra Rage feats for stamina, feats to support AoO effects, feats that work towards potential prestige classes, and so on. However, you could also shift our ability scores around somewhat. I mean, if you're getting results like that with 16 starting Strength, maybe you can lower it to 14, and free up four points to spend somewhere else - perhaps back into Charisma, giving you some oomph for Intimidating Rage or Imperious Command if you want. You can continue to tune this until it deals "enough" damage - and that "enough" does not need to be "100%". It could easily be, say, 80% (leaving the rest to the team), if your DM is the sort who would ban one-hit killers.
            Tempest_Stormwind on Character Optimization
            So when do you think Bachmann will be saying she met a mother the previous night that had a son who got a blood transfusion using a gay guy's blood, and now the son is retardedly gay?
            When she meets CJ's mom?
            Resident Pithed-Off Dragon Poon Slayer of the House of Trolls
            You could, but DF has stated that you don't get points if he doesn't know who you meant. Up to you though.
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            My picks!

            Week 2 games

            SUN, SEP 18
            Detroit
            Oakland 
            Minnesota 
            New Orleans
            Baltimore
            Cleveland
            NY Jets
            Pittsburgh
            Arizona
            Green Bay
            San Francisco
            San Diego
            Miami
            Cincinnati
            Philadelphia

            MON, SEP 19
            NY Giants
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            Kansas City @ Detroit
            Oakland @ Buffalo
            Tampa Bay @ Minnesota
            Chicago @ New Orleans
            Baltimore @ Tennessee
            Cleveland @ Indianapolis
            Jacksonville @ NY Jets
            Seattle @ Pittsburgh
            Arizona @ Washington
            Green Bay @ Carolina
            Dallas @ San Francisco
            San Diego @ New England
            Houston @ Miami
            Cincinnati @ Denver
            Philadelphia @ Atlanta
            St. Louis @ NY Giants

            Resident Grouch and Corrupting Influence A Monster Appears I'm Black and Blue how 'bout you?

            KC vs Detroit.  This is a tough one I'm going to lean on Detroit for this one.
            Oakland vs Buffalo.  It's not time for Buffalo to choke yet (That's week 4) Buffalo.
            Tampa vs Minnesota.  Vikings, easily. Tampa's a joke :-p
            Chicago vs New Orleans. Tough game, Chicago's got some great D and special teams. Probably the best of the season so far imo. I'm going to give it to the Saints though in a last minute surprise shift from Brees and Co.
            Baltimore vs Tenn.   Ravens.  
            Cleveland vs Indy. Browns.
            Jacks vs Jets.  Jets.
            Seahawks vs Steelers. Seahawks
            Arizona vs Washington.  After week 1 and seeing that high powered offense with good quick defense. Arizona.
            Green Bay vs Carolina. Screw it, I'm going for the upset.  Carolina.
            Dallas vs San Fran.  If Romo doesn't Choke again.... Dallas
            Chargers vs NE.   Chargers. They don't choke till the post season :-p
            Houston vs Miami.   Forget the Fish. Houston.
            Cinci vs Denver Broncos all the way.
            Dream Team vs Falcons.  The Falcons seemed kind of slow vs Chicago. The defense is going to spend too much time on the field.  Philly.
            Rams v Giants.  Damn Rams all the way. 
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