[Metagame Discussion] 2011 Nationals Breakdown

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So we have 2 top 8's from France and Australia, and we're seeing a fairly Rock Paper Scissors meta with not nearly as much Valakut as red

AUSTRALIA
2 TwinPod
2 Tempered Steel
BR Vampires
Goblins
Shrine Red
UW Control

FRANCE
2 Shrine Red
2 Caw Blade
UW Control
BR Vampires
Bant Pod
Elves 

If we combine this with Japan Nats from last weekend

JAPAN
3 Valakut
2 Tempered Steel
UB Tezz
UB Control
GW Pod Aggro 

That gives us the following

4 Tempered Steel
3 Valakut
3 Shrine Red
2 Twin Pod 
2 UW Control
2 Vampires
2 Caw Blade

6 other decks (2 pod variants, 2 Aggro variants, 2 UB Control variants)
 
Seems to be a fairly wide open meta

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I just realized how large a pain in the ass it's going to be to break down regionals like this
but look on the bright side, [b]Ding Dong jund is dead[b], it's not the boogyman anymore XD

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Steel is a good nice deck. I'm just surprised about some build using Skites in the MD. You're an aggro deck, crying out loud. Why would you ever, EVER MD a control card?

Interesting to see so little Caw/Blade as opposed to SCG meta.
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Steel is a good nice deck. I'm just surprised about some build using Skites in the MD. You're an aggro deck, crying out loud. Why would you ever, EVER MD a control card?

Interesting to see so little Caw/Blade as opposed to SCG meta.



Not so much a control card as much as it is a solid card for any aggro mirror, as well as a dismember-proof dude once TS hits the field. I honestly think spellskite is undercosted for it's impact on the board.

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Steel is a good nice deck. I'm just surprised about some build using Skites in the MD. You're an aggro deck, crying out loud. Why would you ever, EVER MD a control card?

Interesting to see so little Caw/Blade as opposed to SCG meta.



Not so much a control card as much as it is a solid card for any aggro mirror, as well as a dismember-proof dude once TS hits the field. I honestly think spellskite is undercosted for it's impact on the board.



It's a 0 power, 2 CMC dude, in an aggro deck. AGGRO DECK. Honestly.
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Evasion
Mirror Tech
Naturalize effects tech
Goblin Tech 
Oh and it's a 3/6 with a steel and a signal pest

why DON'T you run it?

besides, two mana is almost the top of the curve XD 
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75932913 wrote:
57689138 wrote:
I just realized how large a pain in the ass it's going to be to break down regionals like this
but look on the bright side, [b]Ding Dong jund is dead[b], it's not the boogyman anymore XD

Razorgore
61325265 wrote:
57689138 wrote:
Near Death Experience?
Gideon is not impressed by your triple white, incredibly difficult-to-manlipulate jank card.
Poor Niche
57860688 wrote:
MaRo keeps stabbing me in the face with cards like Phyrexian Rebirth. It's a black card.. with black art... in a white layer with white costs. Up yours, design team.
Cryptic Command can go munch on a bowl of my nuts
Steel is a good nice deck. I'm just surprised about some build using Skites in the MD. You're an aggro deck, crying out loud. Why would you ever, EVER MD a control card?

Interesting to see so little Caw/Blade as opposed to SCG meta.



Australian metagame is always a bit out there when it comes to Nationals, so it's never that representative.

I noticed that Antoine Ruel and Olivier are in contact with Australian friends for their deckbuilding; and O is using my secret power deck! I knew I shouldn't have told my LGS friends to play it. :P

Spellskite is a funny MD card. I totally support it in the SB, but I'm not sure it's really necessary in the maindeck of Tempered Steel. 
Evasion
Mirror Tech
Naturalize effects tech
Goblin Tech 
Oh and it's a 3/6 with a steel and a signal pest

why DON'T you run it?

besides, two mana is almost the top of the curve XD 



You draw this:

Skite, Skite, Vault Skirge, Mox, Land, Land, Dispatch

And suddenly your deck is awful.

How is it a mirror tech when Legionnaire deals with everything on board even with a Steel out for example? Eating dispatches?

Yeah, when it eats removal, you think you're so awesome and clever, until when you realize HEY, YOU COULD BE A REAL THREAT THAT WOULD EAT REMOVAL OR WIN THE GAME OTHERWISE BRO.

I'm not against it in the side. It's a nice tech vs Twin decks and those who wanna Naturalize your steel, right. But how a 0 power creature finds a place in an aggro deck I will never understand.

Also, Steel already has a good MU vs goblins (which as a deck doesn't even exist to begin with, but w/e S1AL will come here). Why would you play a WALL in an AGGRO DECK in an AGGRO MIRROR? So you can hold their early dudes while you fly over them with... Vault Skirge, before they overwhelm you with Bushwhacker shenenigans?

Coincidentally, J@ps nats winning list didn't run a single Skite in MD. That's the way you roll in an aggro deck and sweep an ultra-competitive nats (maybe second only to american nats) with an AGGRO DECK.

Edit: J@ps is censored wtf?

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'j@ps' is fairly derogatory, historically. I know you were just using abrv.s and weren't racist ranting but it's the sort of thing that might crop up in a authentic-internet-grown-racist-rant (TM). ANYWAYS. Isn't it nice how many different decks there are right now. Makes me wish they banned Jace and Mystic earlier.
Not gonna lie, I was wondering about Spellskite in the main of Steel myself.  I second the aforementioned thought that a 0/4 wall is terrible in the main of an aggro deck.
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Not gonna lie, I was wondering about Spellskite in the main of Steel myself.  I second the aforementioned thought that a 0/4 wall is terrible in the main of an aggro deck.



this.  completely and utterly this.

terrible idea is terrible.  you don't play a 0/4 wall MD for any reason ever in an aggro deck.
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Not gonna lie, I was wondering about Spellskite in the main of Steel myself.  I second the aforementioned thought that a 0/4 wall is terrible in the main of an aggro deck.


It actually makes life as Valakut pretty rough. You can't Slagstorm it away, it absorbs Valakut triggers, etc. Good card.

That said, my recent experience with Steel has been watching it just get hated out of the tournament environment.
First off, Skite isn't a wall.

I think it is mainly there to protect your Overseers, as they are really important for the deck too. Not saying it is right, but there is a reason it is there.
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Steel is a good nice deck. I'm just surprised about some build using Skites in the MD. You're an aggro deck, crying out loud. Why would you ever, EVER MD a control card?



It beats when you have steel, and most importantly protects your steel and overseer.

I second the aforementioned thought that a 0/4 wall is terrible in the main of an aggro deck.



IT IS NOT A WALL
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Steel is a good nice deck. I'm just surprised about some build using Skites in the MD. You're an aggro deck, crying out loud. Why would you ever, EVER MD a control card?



It beats when you have steel, and most importantly protects your steel and overseer.

I second the aforementioned thought that a 0/4 wall is terrible in the main of an aggro deck.



IT IS NOT A WALL


It is quite the wall in my eyes. It's useless when you don't have Steel and sits pretty lame. Again: Any other threat like Legionnaire would demand an answer and therefore protect your steel or overseer indirectly, anyway.
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The deck itself is pretty useless without steel, tbh. This is why I would personally want to run the UW version with preordains.
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UW version with Trinket Mage also seems powerful.
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Spellskite is very strong. I think that people who don't like it haven't seen it in action enough times. It really messes with your opponent's game plan and forces them into making bad decisions. It's much better than a wall. It's colorless, stops early attacks, eats burn spells, and and can save more important creatures from dismemberment. Not to mention with a temepered steel out it it becomes an even more annoying 2/6 that can now eat dismembers. Plus it's capable of attacking once you get a tempered steel out (attacking usefully), making it better than a wall right there.

Play against the deck a few times and you will find out why spellskite is in there.
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