Sengir Vampire vamp reprint do you think it mean Innistrad might bring back the sengir storyline

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do you think baron sengir might be back in the Innistrad block
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I've been thinkign the good Baron woudl return for a while now:  Kar Sengir, the Dark Barony, Barony Vampire and now proper Sengir...

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I'm begining to think its more likely with the Sengir vampire reprint.
do you think baron sengir might be back in the Innistrad block



Why would Baron Sengir be on Innistrad... he should be in Ulgrotha.

Magic has a rich history, and they like to tap into that. There's no reason why he'd show up on Innistrad.

* Innistrad may have a vampire-centric theme, which might be why he was reprinted.
… and then, the squirrels came.
for all we know he could've took over Ulgrotha and moved on to Innistrad
the last time he was used was before cold snap so he could've taken other planes
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Sengir would be on Innistrad because he had a planar portal and Homelands was wildly unpopular and thus the last thing Wizards would want to raise nostalgia for in a major release, thus forcing him to ditch Ulgrotha if he wants to appear.

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I'm begining to think its more likely with the Sengir vampire reprint.

What Sengir Vampire reprint?
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Rule that I would change: 204.1b
204.1b Some effects change an object’s card type, supertype, or subtype but specify that the object retains a prior card type, supertype, or subtype. In such cases, all the object’s prior card types, supertypes, and subtypes are retained. This rule applies to effects that use the phrase “in addition to its types” or that state that something is “still a [card type].” Some effects state that an object becomes an “artifact creature”; these effects also allow the object to retain all of its prior card types and subtypes.
"Eight Edition Rules Update" We eventually decided not to change this template, because players are used to “becomes an artifact creature,” and like it much better.
Players were used to Combat on the Stack, but you got rid of that because it was unintuitive. The only phrase needed is "in addition to its types"; the others are misleading and unintuitive.
here is where reprint is confirmed
forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t...
just because baron sengir 1.0 is reserved doesn't mean they couldn't do a new version
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I'm begining to think its more likely with the Sengir vampire reprint.

What Sengir Vampire reprint?


The one that doesn't appear in that list of reserved cards.  Baron, Grandmother, and Veldrane -- not Basic Sengir Vampire

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Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

Last Edited by Ralph on blank, 1920

I'm begining to think its more likely with the Sengir vampire reprint.

What Sengir Vampire reprint?


The one that doesn't appear in that list of reserved cards.  Baron, Grandmother, and Veldrane -- not Basic Sengir Vampire



and from what i heard granny might have been a walker and still be one so she could get a walker card
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I'm begining to think its more likely with the Sengir vampire reprint.

What Sengir Vampire reprint?


The one that doesn't appear in that list of reserved cards.  Baron, Grandmother, and Veldrane -- not Basic Sengir Vampire



and from what i heard granny might have been a walker and still be one so she could get a walker card


Nothing stopping any of those characters (and not-reserver Irini Sengir) from getting new cards...  Okay, Veldrane's probably ages dead, not being a vampire and all, but the Baron might have reanimated a favorite servant somehow.

And Grandmother Sengir is, indeed, one of those creature-planeswalkers along with Blind Seer (Urza) and Nicol Bolas.  Sort of like poor, confusing-then-nerfed Non-legendary Gerrard.  and Oracle en-Vec -- what's up with her lacking Legend status?  So, if the Sengir clan is back in business, I wouldn't be surprised to see "Ravi Sengir // Planeswakler - Ravi", or for that matter "(firstname) Sengir, The Dark Baron"

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Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

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I want to be back on Ulgrotha!
I want to be back on Ulgrotha!

Heartily Seconded.
Do you think they'll man up and NOT retcon elves and goblins into the setting? A long shot, I know, but it could happen.
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Goblins were there
Goblins were there
Goblins were there


Orcs, perhaps, but I recall no Urglothan goblins in card, art, or flavor text.

I could be wrong, of course...

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Round 2: (16-8-2, 4 kills)
Round 3: (18-9-2, 1 kill)
Round 4: (22-10-0, 2 kills)
Round 5: (56-16-3, 9 kills)
Round 6: (8-7-1)

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Goblins were ruled under by Eron the Relentless, but oddly this bit of fact doesn't appear on any cards.
When the Plains cultures came  together under Serra, the Goblins also organized to confront the threat  of the organized nomads.  The first Goblin King was chosen from all the  families, and Crank led his people until a desperate planeswalker  summoned Crank and the rest of the "high court" of the Goblin society to  fight in one of her duels.  They never returned.   

The Goblins,  however dismayed at the elitehood of the Goblin race being disintigrated  before their very eyes, quickly got over it and chose a new leader, a  Goblin Wizard named Aliban, the only survivor of the "mass  disintigration" that destroyed the elite core of their society. 
There  was little change until just over a hundred years ago, when a human by  the name of Eron marched into Koskun Keep and proclaimed himself King of  the Goblins.  Eron was quickly put to death, but his miraculous  recovery caused the Goblins to eventually put him on the throne. (He is  an immortal of sorts, courtesy of a wizards spell some years  beforehand.  See Eron the Relentless.)  Since then, Eron has managed to  build a strong culture out of the clans, families and bickering, and has  even negotiated a treaty with the Citizenship of Aysen - they supply  the Goblins food and goods in return for fair prices and bartering, and  he won't have his Goblins destroy all of the towns and cities of Aysen,  and lay siege to the capitol city of Onella.  To show his goodwill, Eron  had one of his Goblin Wizards teach the Northerners a spell that would  supply all the cobblestones they would ever need for building their  infernal roads.



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I'm begining to think its more likely with the Sengir vampire reprint.

What Sengir Vampire reprint?


The one that doesn't appear in that list of reserved cards.  Baron, Grandmother, and Veldrane -- not Basic Sengir Vampire


 Ah, my bad.  forgot there even was a non-legendary version.
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Rule that I would change: 204.1b
204.1b Some effects change an object’s card type, supertype, or subtype but specify that the object retains a prior card type, supertype, or subtype. In such cases, all the object’s prior card types, supertypes, and subtypes are retained. This rule applies to effects that use the phrase “in addition to its types” or that state that something is “still a [card type].” Some effects state that an object becomes an “artifact creature”; these effects also allow the object to retain all of its prior card types and subtypes.
"Eight Edition Rules Update" We eventually decided not to change this template, because players are used to “becomes an artifact creature,” and like it much better.
Players were used to Combat on the Stack, but you got rid of that because it was unintuitive. The only phrase needed is "in addition to its types"; the others are misleading and unintuitive.
Hopefully we will meet more of the Sengir clan.

Also think goblins could be rested for a set. 
"Could be" as in "could stand to be" or "might be"?

If it's the first, I agree wholeheartedly.

If it's the second... eh, I wouldn't get your hopes up. :P Too many people love the little buggers and heaven forbid we prevent Goblin Tribal for being built for one block.
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goblin tribal will be a deck with goblin grenade coming back
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I was so delighted to see more throwbacks to the Homeland's beings/races/stuffs that I too joined the cause of wanting to see it more in a set.

However, after what has transpired with the Quest for Karn and with disarray seemingly rampant in Creative right now... I'd rather have them be throwbacked than used again with this Creative Management in place. Undecided Ulgrotha AND Kamigawa.

Worst, they're going to make a familiar character return for marketing purposes and then be disposed off to serve their own purposes....
Question:

Perhaps I'm missing something, but do we actually have any reason to think that Sengir has anything whatsoever to do with Innistrad?
If Innistrad is supposed to be its own plane (and I'm pretty sure it is), then it is emphatically impossible for it to have anything to do with anything in the Homelands, because that is a different plane. Unless the Sengir family got transplanted somehow to Innistrad, it doesn't make any sense.
If Innistrad is supposed to be its own plane (and I'm pretty sure it is), then it is emphatically impossible for it to have anything to do with anything in the Homelands, because that is a different plane. Unless the Sengir family got transplanted somehow to Innistrad, it doesn't make any sense.



For all we know, the Baron has already discovered what is in store beneath Castle Sengir and has started to branch out.

Or.... Innistrad is where Sorin was from. :P
If this is the case I do hope they reprint the original image for the Sengir Vampire because the current artwork for that card is atrocious.
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