03/31/2011 FtL: "Proliferation Station"

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This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab article, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
Nice decks.  I particularly like the Myojin decks.  There is just so much you can do with proliferate that it is a great mechanic.
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I love the double pun in Prolife-R/AGE, but I would prefer to play the deck "wrong" by pretending Braid of Fire has an errata that makes its mana still burn you.  I don't like it as an all-upside card, just because the flavor is so wrong.

The myojin deck definitely needs more Footsteps of the Goryo and the like.  I also like things that shuffle large amounts of your graveyard back into your library so that you can keep drawing large piles of cards basically forever.

"Bombs" already has a meaning in Magic so it's a terrible name for 6-mana artifacts.  I believe I was one of those who suggested "Gears", but I still like the idea of "Clanks" as a Girl Genius reference.

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I liked the combo in ProliferAGE. (The specific one of reference is Braid of Fire and Magmatic Core. The addition of Bomb Squad just added to the creature hate.

MaRo: One of the classic R&D stories happened during a Scars of Mirrodin draft. Erik Lauer was sitting to my right (meaning that he passed to me in the first and third packs). At the end of the draft, Erik was upset because I was in his colors (black-green).

He said, "Didn't you see the signals? I went into black-green in pack one."

I replied, "Didn't you see my signals? I started drafting infect six drafts ago." ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************MaRo: During a playtest, I played a Reaper from the Abyss. I attacked each turn, while my opponent would chump block (he had a lot of fliers), and then I killed a second creature. This happened until he had only one creature left. I attack, he blocked, and then the following dialogue occurred:

Him: Kill your demon. Me: What? Him: My guy died so you have to kill a creature.

Me: Yeah, but why would a demon kill himself?

Him: I don't know. He's depressed there's no one left to kill.

Me: That doesn't make any sense. Him: I don't care. It's what the card says. I then take out my pen, and wrote "non-Demon" on it.

Him: You can't do that.

Me: I redesigned him while the effect was on the stack.

I have a deck like prolifeRAGE; and I think one card that should've been included is Torch Song. It's great with proliferate and it's yet another type of counters (verse counters, this time). Having 1 of those in play will make your opponents (I always play multiplayer) wary of making you mad at them. Either that or they'll just all jump right onto you ;)
I combined that deck with Jacob van Lunen's quiet recent proliferate-control deck to a 98 card (I was missing 2 sleeves ^^) deck that is really fun to play with multiple strategies. I might include the braid of fire - magmatic core combo though, it looks like great fun!
I played the Braid of Fire/ Magmatic Core combo back when Coldsnap came out.  One thing that I should note is that you need some sort of regenerator or indestructable creature in order to keep your creatures alive.  If your opponent runs out of creatures, you will start to kill your your own creatures until the field is clear.  Maybe adding Stuffy Doll would be a good idea.
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Since the first deck is running Pridemate, maybe sun droplet would be better than golden urn (especially if you're going multiplayer).
The thallid angle he mentioned at the beginning is one of my favorite uses for Proliferate.  I threw a couple contagion engines into my thallid deck recently, and this past weekend it helped me use a Deathspore Thallid to kill a 19/22 Forgotten Ancient! I lost that (multiplayer) game, but that's a small price to pay for doing something epic.
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How can you tap the Plaguemaw Beast when it's just come into play? What am I missing here?
One thing that I should note is that you need some sort of regenerator or indestructable creature in order to keep your creatures alive.  If your opponent runs out of creatures, you will start to kill your your own creatures until the field is clear.

Aren't you allowed to choose zero targets for Magmatic Core?

One thing that I should note is that you need some sort of regenerator or indestructable creature in order to keep your creatures alive.  If your opponent runs out of creatures, you will start to kill your your own creatures until the field is clear.

Aren't you allowed to choose zero targets for Magmatic Core?




Look at the Gatherer link for Magmatic Core in either my post or your post for the rulings.  If you have at least one age counter on it then you have to target at least one creature, even if you are the only one with creatures.
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Unless of course you figure out how to divide by zero.

I wouldn't try it though, chances are it'll cause the universe to collapse.
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How can you tap the Plaguemaw Beast when it's just come into play? What am I missing here?



No one said you should.  The combo calls for you to have a Plagemaw Beast in play at the start of the turn, and to have a Myojin which may or may not have been in play at the start of the turn.  It's a little confusing where he says "Weird Harvest for those three creatures" - he means Pestermite, Kozilek's Predator, and Dust Elemental.  And you also need to have either another creature in play to sack to the Plaguemaw or have somehow already gotten a second counter on the Myojin.

Combos revolving around nine-mana creatures don't impress me much, I'm afraid.  It's a cute idea but this is not one of the decks from this column I'm terribly interested in building.
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