in the last game, how exactly did your opponent have only one blue mana? didn't you say he played a prismatic omen? even with the land you blew up, he should have had four lands to play the cryptic still in play.
Once upon a time this column was intended to encourage creativity, but now it provides relatively inexpensive but powerful decks that help to further stifle creativity.
The irony of this column is that it is supposed to teach people how to build on a budget, when in fact what it does is provide another source for pre-made decks for the lazy masses who are uninterested in building their own decks. I can't tell you how many times I've played against copies of the "building on a budget" deck in the casual rooms. Once upon a time this column was intended to encourage creativity, but now it provides relatively inexpensive but powerful decks that help to further stifle creativity.
People learning to build creative individual budget decks is not in WotC’s interests. WotC’s profits are maximised when a maximum number of players are chasing the same few cards, as this requires more sets to be opened (one way or another) to meet the demand.
If the agenda of WotC was to encourage creativity and a broad range of different decks, they would not publish any deck lists. Unfortunately there will always be others who make a living selling singles willing to publish the winning decks as a form of advertising.
As soon as any good list is published it results in people who like the deck, can afford the deck and don’t have the desire to play something more expensive duplicating the deck. If sufficient numbers of people are chasing the same archetype, the key mythic (or rare) components will naturally rise in price.
The shamans deck looks particularly uncreative to me. Nine different 4-ofs + sparkmage. 33 shamans + 4 bloodbraids which will cascade into shamans. Not really a lot of room for customisation. Any change will either reduce the number of shamans (and the kinship the deck runs on) or put less optimal shamans in place. Even the bloodbraids are effectively 3/2 hastey body + random As to those complaining this deck isn't budget, all things are relative, aside from the fauna shamans, no card costs over £2.5, in an era where decks are running playsets of jace and/or primeval titan + fetches, that seems pretty budget to me.I actually like the deck it's certainly a deviation from the norm, but I feel it could get stale very quickly due to it's linear nature.
Once upon a time this column was intended to encourage creativity, but now it provides relatively inexpensive but powerful decks that help to further stifle creativity.Was it really? No matter which author did the column, dating back to Nate Heiss it always featured one decklist to "sleeve up" and play. The only exception I can remember were Ben Bleiweiss's lists of staple cards, which didn't happen all that often.But you're right, the typical BoaB decks of yore didn't carry that much punch as Jake van Lunen strives to deliver.
Jay Moldenhauer-Salazar would also give lists of staple cards, decklists that were not the norm, and highlighted users who took a similar theme into a different direction. His style was more about showing what could be done, but noting his idea was not the only idea that could be persued. He repeatedly showed his ideas and the ideas of others. His House of Secrets deck was so evil, but so good, and highlighted how a color pair could be explored.
Jakes decks are a little more expensive, but, as Jayem74 mentioned, they are more budget than some decks. Not much can be done about the secondary market. My only gripe about this installment of Building on a Budget is the opponent who missed the fact Prismatic Omen made all lands all types. If the game was played on MODO, each land would show it was each basic land type, wouldn't it? Could this fact be missed so easily? It is a bad example of how the Shaman deck performs when played against an opponent who misses something so blatant.
I think I like the Elemental Mimic Vat deck better, but I love creatures with comes into play...er, enters the battlefield effects.
I think a great deck has tons of alternative triggers and other mini-combos and win conditions. There's seldom a fail-safe I've noticed with the BoaB decks. They kind have been sounding like really advanced pre-constructed decks. They work, and function, but you have to edit them to your own personality.
Average pricing in tix for MTGO as of the article's publishing date, rares and uncommons:Copperline Gorge 00.70 x4 = 02.80Bloodbraid Elf 01.75 x4 = 07.00 *Cunning Sparkmage 00.15 x1 = 00.15Fauna Shaman 02.75 x4 = 11.00Flamekin Harbinger 00.08 x4 = 00.32 **Goblin Ruinblaster 00.08 x4 = 00.32Leaf-Crowned Elder 03.50 x4 = 14.00 **Rage Forger 00.04 x4 = 00.16 **Sensation Gorger 00.12 x4 = 00.48Wolf-Skull Shaman 00.04 x4 = 00.16 **Total: 36.39 tix, roughly equivalent to $34-35.* promo version available, increased card supply** cards that were not released in the latest set, but have been suggested by author in previous articles/decks
97563441 wrote:Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands. What are the new Scars duals called?
61325265 wrote:Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.
61325265 wrote:58232598 wrote:i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is. it's just really random.
And so the pot met the kettle.
58232598 wrote:i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is. it's just really random.
Citing the minimum prices available in MTGO always gets on my nerves a bit, for a few reasons. First, it will take time to find cards at the minimum available prices, and time = money.
Second, the idea of a tournament winning budget deck is contradictory. You can't reliably win at a tournament if you play with less than the best. The idea of a casual-dominating budgetized version of a tournament deck isn't contradictory - and that's what these decks are.
so LEAF-CROWNED ELDER is the least budget friendly card on MTGO? and he STILL only went over the previous writers price cieling by 5 BUCKS!?
I'm guessing the Ruinblasters are used instead of Fulminators since they're more budget. Otherwise, being able to tutor up a Mage with the Harbingers make them more appealing, and it's something I do fairly regularly with this setup.Running shamans back in Lorwyn block season, I used Countryside Crusher instead of Sensation Gorger with a good amount of success. Guaranteed kinship with Elder or Wolf-Skull out, and counters that will trigger Forger. I found them helpful since you really don't need mana after 4.Also, wouldn't Vexing Shusher be better than Guttural Response in the board? I'm not sure how budget they are, but I wouldn't imagine much since they were promo cards, and you might not need a full four with Fauna Shaman...
Based on the results presented here, the shaman deck beats faeries and wargate. For some reason, the budget decks described here always beat the tournament staples. Looks like misleading results to me; either the opponents have little skill, or the results shown are not representative. Also, take a look at Mike Flores article today on extended decks. See a shaman deck? See any decks that don't cost a fortune? 'Nuf said on that.
Eldrazi green typically includes multiple copies of Vengevine - a single copy of which pushes a deck out of budget range, as they go for about $30 each online.
Based on the results presented here, the shaman deck beats faeries and wargate. For some reason, the budget decks described here always beat the tournament staples. Looks like misleading results to me; either the opponents have little skill, or the results shown are not representative. Also, take a look at Mike Flores article today on extended decks. See a shaman deck? See any decks that don't cost a fortune? 'Nuf said on that.Eldrazi green typically includes multiple copies of Vengevine - a single copy of which pushes a deck out of budget range, as they go for about $30 each online.
@Absird: Summoning Trap IMO is weaker in extended, and if you do summoning trap, you're going to have a tough choice of deciding which of 7 creatures you're going to play. I don't think Summoning Trap is worth it in this deck, but I am also testing this deck with Great Sable Stag and Cloudthresher. I might also see about sideboarding Wall of Tanglecord since it has the ability to reach. And I agree, testing Vexing Shusher was way better than Guttural Response.