Speculation on Mythic (and other origins)

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I know it doesn't come out till mid november, but I was looking at the origin list for Famine in Far-Go. While most of the origins make sense I'm still not sure what Mythic means? I'm not worried about the specifics but rather the concept behind it. Is it magic, or something else entirely?


For that matter what makes a nightmare in a world of mutants?

What other origins are a little unspecific with their names, or random ideas do you have for what these origins might entail?
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Mythic could be 'You claim the power of the gods - whether it is real or not" - a Hercules type, for example. Doesn't quite mesh with the feel, though.

Maybe a Psi origin where you make everyone think you're way awesome, or you have a natural tendency through a subconscious form of probability manipulation to get into heroic situations.

It could be "I'm the paragon of whatever my other origin is", or everyone SEES you as some kind of exemplar - of what, I don't know.

Hell, it could be you just happen to be some legendary hero from a worldline where that legend was real.

As for nightmare, that's easy. Psi - you project nightmares into other's minds. Fear-based origin. Think Scarecrow from batman, but psionic instead of with chemicals. Or the id fiend from Dark Sun. 


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Mythic could be 'You claim the power of the gods - whether it is real or not" - a Hercules type, for example. Doesn't quite mesh with the feel, though.

Maybe a Psi origin where you make everyone think you're way awesome, or you have a natural tendency through a subconscious form of probability manipulation to get into heroic situations.

It could be "I'm the paragon of whatever my other origin is", or everyone SEES you as some kind of exemplar - of what, I don't know.

Hell, it could be you just happen to be some legendary hero from a worldline where that legend was real.

As for nightmare, that's easy. Psi - you project nightmares into other's minds. Fear-based origin. Think Scarecrow from batman, but psionic instead of with chemicals. Or the id fiend from Dark Sun. 





Those are good takes on the Mythic.

Nightmare seems more to me like a race (plat, yeti, android, hawkoid, etc.) than a power set (the kinetics), some horrifc creature of nightmares (still fear based powers and what not, but more because you yourself look horific than because of illusion).

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I know it doesn't come out till mid november, but I was looking at the origin list for Famine in Far-Go. While most of the origins make sense I'm still not sure what Mythic means? I'm not worried about the specifics but rather the concept behind it. Is it magic, or something else entirely?


For that matter what makes a nightmare in a world of mutants?

What other origins are a little unspecific with their names, or random ideas do you have for what these origins might entail?


Where did you get the list of origins for FIF-G?
I know it doesn't come out till mid november, but I was looking at the origin list for Famine in Far-Go. While most of the origins make sense I'm still not sure what Mythic means? I'm not worried about the specifics but rather the concept behind it. Is it magic, or something else entirely?


For that matter what makes a nightmare in a world of mutants?

What other origins are a little unspecific with their names, or random ideas do you have for what these origins might entail?


Where did you get the list of origins for FIF-G?



It's avaiable in the october and beyond preview: www.wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4...
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This blog has some a little note that might be the mythic origin.

"The group was later joined by Josh (D&D customer service overlord), playing a plastic manikin possessed by the spirit of a dead barbarian chieftain (using some Famine and Fargo origins—SPOILERS!)"

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This blog has some a little note that might be the mythic origin.

"The group was later joined by Josh (D&D customer service overlord), playing a plastic manikin possessed by the spirit of a dead barbarian chieftain (using some Famine and Fargo origins—SPOILERS!)"



Hmm...it's possible. However plastic is an origin in Famine, as is ectoplasmic (For people who don't know this usually maens ghost), so that seems to be one or the other, or both of those possible origins.
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The barbarian seems to have been an ectoplasmic plastic. One of them was a Mythic Entropic, and one of those apparently means he's from the future (I'm thinking Mythic).
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Mythic doesn't mean you're from the future, nor does entropic.

Mythic is something from the past, a myth or legend.

Entropic is of entropy which means it breaks things down.

Unless the backstory for said character is that he's from the future...
This blog has some a little note that might be the mythic origin.

"The group was later joined by Josh (D&D customer service overlord), playing a plastic manikin possessed by the spirit of a dead barbarian chieftain (using some Famine and Fargo origins—SPOILERS!)"


Plastic, sure.
But the second one could be Reanimated.
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Ragnarok, a Mythic Entropic.

“A what?” I asked.


“From Famine in Far-Go,” Chuck said with pride. “He’s from the future.”



Well then...

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Mythic doesn't mean you're from the future, nor does entropic.

Mythic is something from the past, a myth or legend.

Entropic is of entropy which means it breaks things down.

Unless the backstory for said character is that he's from the future...



It could be mythic in the sense that it is legends told about future.

It's also possible that the "from the future" could instead be about famine not being released yet.

I didn't think it was entropic (cause entropy has no claim to time), which is why I said mythic, but didn't want to exclude it in case they see something in entropic I don't.
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Mythic doesn't mean you're from the future, nor does entropic.

Mythic is something from the past, a myth or legend.

Entropic is of entropy which means it breaks things down.

Unless the backstory for said character is that he's from the future...



It could be mythic in the sense that it is legends told about future.

It's also possible that the "from the future" could instead be about famine not being released yet.

I didn't think it was entropic (cause entropy has no claim to time), which is why I said mythic, but didn't want to exclude it in case they see something in entropic I don't.


I think you're reading too much into that. Future != Myth.




Noun1.mythmyth - a traditional story accepted as history; serves to explain the world view of a people
story - a piece of fiction that narrates a chain of related events; "he writes stories for the magazines"

Gotterdammerung, Ragnarok, Twilight of the Gods - myth about the ultimate destruction of the gods in a battle with evil

mythology - myths collectively; the body of stories associated with a culture or institution or person


While a myth may include elements of future events, when it comes to describing myth as it pertains to a person or thing, it's generally well known to deal with history and legend. A legendary being is not something that people speculate about, but rather something that has grown from an historical account.

I don' t know of many myths concerning jambajamba the future king who will succeed at killing woogiewoogie the furry monster.

I do know of myths concerning Heracles and his feats of strength from ancient greece. Or of John Henry, the man who beat a machine in a race to excavate a railroad tunnel.

Contextually and syntactically (a problem I see a lot of people have when it comes to reading anything) myths speak of historical things, not of things that will happen. If a story is written down that details future events, it is not a myth but a prophecy.
Maybe it is a charisma kind of thing. Mythic as in Heroic?

Gives bouses to party members.
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Mythic doesn't mean you're from the future, nor does entropic.

Mythic is something from the past, a myth or legend.

Entropic is of entropy which means it breaks things down.

Unless the backstory for said character is that he's from the future...



It could be mythic in the sense that it is legends told about future.

It's also possible that the "from the future" could instead be about famine not being released yet.

I didn't think it was entropic (cause entropy has no claim to time), which is why I said mythic, but didn't want to exclude it in case they see something in entropic I don't.


I think you're reading too much into that. Future != Myth.




Noun1.myth - a traditional story accepted as history; serves to explain the world view of a people
story - a piece of fiction that narrates a chain of related events; "he writes stories for the magazines"

Gotterdammerung, Ragnarok, Twilight of the Gods - myth about the ultimate destruction of the gods in a battle with evil

mythology - myths collectively; the body of stories associated with a culture or institution or person


While a myth may include elements of future events, when it comes to describing myth as it pertains to a person or thing, it's generally well known to deal with history and legend. A legendary being is not something that people speculate about, but rather something that has grown from an historical account.

I don' t know of many myths concerning jambajamba the future king who will succeed at killing woogiewoogie the furry monster.

I do know of myths concerning Heracles and his feats of strength from ancient greece. Or of John Henry, the man who beat a machine in a race to excavate a railroad tunnel.

Contextually and syntactically (a problem I see a lot of people have when it comes to reading anything) myths speak of historical things, not of things that will happen. If a story is written down that details future events, it is not a myth but a prophecy.



I never said future=myth. I was going off it's use as fantasitic (unrealisticc) story, witch is more commonly used (bigfoot, flying cars). Did you considered that maybe prophecised didn't feel right so they re named it to something more catchy(very unlikely, but feel is often more important here than actual terms).

THe problem is I didn't look into it enough. I was happy to get something that may be a hint I didn't look at it more. I think Temporal is the real hit to this idea. As temporal is either a time manipulator or a time traveler, either one  would make this idea of mythic less original.
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It's also possible that the "from the future" could instead be about famine not being released yet.


Others described in the party was using Famine origins, like the Plastic doll that was Reanimated by the ghost of a barbarian. So that's certainly not it.
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It's also possible that the "from the future" could instead be about famine not being released yet.


Others described in the party was using Famine origins, like the Plastic doll that was Reanimated by the ghost of a barbarian. So that's certainly not it.



Fair enough. Although I find it odd they show off plastic and reanimated/ectoplasmic*, and yet not let us know more about the mythic entropic.

*(I think either is possible, but I think zombie when I think reanimated, not ghost. But ghost might have been how they rectified the two origins, or reanimated could just not be that specific)
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It's also possible that the "from the future" could instead be about famine not being released yet.


Others described in the party was using Famine origins, like the Plastic doll that was Reanimated by the ghost of a barbarian. So that's certainly not it.



Fair enough. Although I find it odd they show off plastic and reanimated/ectoplasmic*, and yet not let us know more about the mythic entropic.

*(I think either is possible, but I think zombie when I think reanimated, not ghost. But ghost might have been how they rectified the two origins, or reanimated could just not be that specific)


Ghost = Ectoplasmic (watch Ghostbusters for a more "pop culture" science-y explanation of what ectoplasm is). You can also watch Chucky and Bride of Chucky where a Plastic doll was possessed by a killer's soul.

Reanimated as an origin *could* mean a corpse. That screams zombie to me as well but not the traditional "Brraaaaaaainszzzzz" kind of zombie. More like the witchdoctor/voodoo kind of zombie.

Mythic: Think of Hercules, Persius, Zeus, Achilles, Thor, Beowulf, King Arthur, Mulan, Paul Bunyan, John Henry, William Wallace, etc. Any one of them are Mythic (it isn't a hard concept to wrap your mind around). So, I think Mythic will be a demi-god or fantastic hero kind of origin.
I'm thinking more fey or elven than anything else.

Ghost = Ectoplasmic (watch Ghostbusters for a more "pop culture" science-y explanation of what ectoplasm is). You can also watch Chucky and Bride of Chucky where a Plastic doll was possessed by a killer's soul.

Reanimated as an origin *could* mean a corpse. That screams zombie to me as well but not the traditional "Brraaaaaaainszzzzz" kind of zombie. More like the witchdoctor/voodoo kind of zombie.

Mythic: Think of Hercules, Persius, Zeus, Achilles, Thor, Beowulf, King Arthur, Mulan, Paul Bunyan, John Henry, William Wallace, etc. Any one of them are Mythic (it isn't a hard concept to wrap your mind around). So, I think Mythic will be a demi-god or fantastic hero kind of origin.




Definantly agree on the first two. My problem with mythic is "demi-god" doesn't fit to gamma world to me I guess. Fantastic hero on the other hand is possible. Although Von-Ether had the same idea I originally thought, they are a traditional fantasy race from some alternate worldline. It is likely I will have to wait till it releases to see for sure.
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Fair enough. Although I find it odd they show off plastic and reanimated/ectoplasmic*, and yet not let us know more about the mythic entropic.


They weren't "showing off" anything. It was an internal game, and that's what the characters were.
Shelly was Gelatinous and Cockroach, which crosses both books. Victor's other half was never mentioned.
They didn't provide ANY details on ANY of the origins mentioned. "From the future" was the closest they came.

Either way, it'll be out in Permier stores in 2 weeks... just in time for payday!
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I will bet you a shiny American quarter that when the player said his character was "from the future," he was joking about his character being from a supplement that wasn't published yet, and that it had nothing to do with the origin.
Fair enough. Although I find it odd they show off plastic and reanimated/ectoplasmic*, and yet not let us know more about the mythic entropic.


They weren't "showing off" anything. It was an internal game, and that's what the characters were.
Shelly was Gelatinous and Cockroach, which crosses both books. Victor's other half was never mentioned.
They didn't provide ANY details on ANY of the origins mentioned. "From the future" was the closest they came.

Either way, it'll be out in Permier stores in 2 weeks... just in time for payday!



We didn't get any powers but we got flavor, mostly for obivious stuff. Gelatinous is jell-o like, yeah we could figure that out but it's confirmed. The barbarian is obviously plastic, and I'd say ectoplasmic but maybe it's reanimated. Not really shown off, and sincce we don't get a nmae for either origing it's open to some interpretation, but we know origins and those three are most likely. Then we get Mythic Entropic and nothing else on it.

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Think how those two origins could be connected. Mythic could be a being that is not thought to truly exist, or other options previously stated. Entropic is most likely associated with the break down of structure. So a mythic/entropic could have something to do with an impending second "Big Mistake". I don't know though, just my two cents.
Well we have some new info about two of the new origins in Famine in Far-go, the gelatinous and temporal origins to be specific. here is link! wizards.com/dnd/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/2...
Now that FiF is out, at least to premier stores, and I have actually gotten a copy, yes Mythic = demi-god. Or, offspring of a deific entity.