9/24/2010 LD: "Prerelease Preparations"

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This thread is for discussion of this week's Latest Developments, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
inflect creatures and normal creatures work out pretty well together on defense, it's just that on offense, they kinda want to do different ways :P.

still, if you have a high power infect creature, it can win on its own really easily.

Just as planned, eh, MaRo :p.
I think that the only reason to add an Infect creature to a deck is when it has some other attribute useful to your deck.  In my U Artifact deck idea I have Ichorclaw Myr.  It is in there because it is a cheap artifact creature.  A side effect of having it in there is that if I get the opportunity I can poison my opponent since I have a fair number of proliferate cards in my deck.
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I'd dearly love to go to a Prerelease this weekend - either the regional London one or one of the local Cambridge ones - but sadly a family wedding clashes. We'll probably be having a SoM draft at home in a couple of weeks instead, getting some friends over.
Since Tom didn't deliver any meat with his article again, I'd like to take the opportunity and pose a question that I haven't seen answered anywhere on the mothership:

Why is the whole set spoiled before the prerelease?

Or to put it another way:

What's the difference between release and prerelease when the whole set is officially spoiled beforehand?
Where's the poll option for "Would have gone, but you scheduled it the weekend after Civ 5 came out"?
Why is the whole set spoiled before the prerelease?

Or to put it another way:

What's the difference between release and prerelease when the whole set is officially spoiled beforehand?

You don't have to look at the spoilers if you don't want to. It makes sense for them to put up the whole set a few days before the prerelease to cut down on people going to you-know-where to look at it. This weekend can still be called a "prerelease" because the cards won't be available for unlimited purchase until next weekend.
Since Tom didn't deliver any meat with his article again, I'd like to take the opportunity and pose a question that I haven't seen answered anywhere on the mothership:

Why is the whole set spoiled before the prerelease?

Or to put it another way:

What's the difference between release and prerelease when the whole set is officially spoiled beforehand?



I think you're asking the wrong question. Many of us always felt it was silly to withhold the set information until right before the pre-release. Many other games would release their complete sets a few weeks before they became available to allow players to begin learning them.

I think at this point now having the two events is just another way to keep folks coming in with promo items and such. Like I can't make this weekend's but I'll probably try to make the next one.  
Proud member of C.A.R.D. - Campaign Against Rare Duals "...but the time has come when lands just need to be better. Creatures have gotten stronger, spells have always been insane, and lands just sat in this awkward place of necessity." Jacob Van Lunen on the refuge duals, 16 Sep 2009. "While it made thematic sense to separate enemy and allied color fixing in the past, we have come around to the definite conclusion that it is just plain incorrect from a game-play perspective. This is one of these situations where game play should just trump flavor." - Sam Stoddard on ending the separation of allied/enemy dual lands. 05 July 2013
I'd dearly love to go to a Prerelease this weekend - either the regional London one or one of the local Cambridge ones - but sadly a family wedding clashes. We'll probably be having a SoM draft at home in a couple of weeks instead, getting some friends over.


I am going to the Cambridge Pre-release tomorrow - I have never been there before. I normally play in Peterborough, but we just have Launch Parties, not Pre-releases (I am going there next weekend). Last time I went to a Pre-re was WWK @ Nottingham (had a great day but unfortunately they have switched to Sundays now due to parking considerations, and I cant get there then because of the trains...).

I am really excited about the next couple of weeks of Magic - I even have my last pre-rotation Standard tournament this Sunday (where I will be going retro with a Master Transmuter deck while I still can).

Cheers

~ Tim
I am Blue/White Reached DCI Rating 1800 on 28/10/11. :D
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56287226 wrote:
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Not bad. But what happens flavor wise when one kamahl kills the other one?
Zis iz a sign uf deep psychological troma, buried in zer subconscious mind. By keelink himzelf, Kamahl iz physically expressink hiz feelinks uf self-disgust ova hiz desire for hiz muzzer. [/GermanPsychologistVoice]
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57799958 wrote:
That makes no sense to me. If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed? ~ Tim
Yup, just like you can have Birds of paradise in a mono green deck but not Noble Hierarch. YAY COLOR IDENTITY
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56888618 wrote:
Is algebra really that difficult?
Survey says yes.
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57799958 wrote:
You want to make a milky drink. You squeeze a cow.
I love this description. Like the cows are sponges filled with milk. I can see it all Nick Parks claymation-style with the cow's eyes bugging out momentarily as a giant farmer squeezes it like a squeaky dog toy, and milk shoots out of it.
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And no judge will ever give you a game loss for playing snow covered lands.
I now have a new goal in life. ;)
Since Tom didn't deliver any meat with his article again, I'd like to take the opportunity and pose a question that I haven't seen answered anywhere on the mothership:

Why is the whole set spoiled before the prerelease?

Or to put it another way:

What's the difference between release and prerelease when the whole set is officially spoiled beforehand?



I think you're asking the wrong question. Many of us always felt it was silly to withhold the set information until right before the pre-release. Many other games would release their complete sets a few weeks before they became available to allow players to begin learning them.

I think at this point now having the two events is just another way to keep folks coming in with promo items and such. Like I can't make this weekend's but I'll probably try to make the next one.  



Oooh, maybe they'll add a pre-pre-release with a different promo card the weekend before they release the full spoiler XD
Since Tom didn't deliver any meat with his article again, I'd like to take the opportunity and pose a question that I haven't seen answered anywhere on the mothership:

Why is the whole set spoiled before the prerelease?

Or to put it another way:

What's the difference between release and prerelease when the whole set is officially spoiled beforehand?



If they want to have prereleases for free, maybe then people will happily be surprised by everything. Otherwise, for $30, which is far too much for the product they give, I want to give myself a chance to win more product. It is extremely fair that someone would want a chance to get as much information as possible as opposed to paying $30 for a pig in a poke. There are obviously far more people who want this information as soon as possible than people who like to wait, which is why WOTC is getting ahead of the unauthorized leaks.

The difference between release and prerelease is that when you are done playing you can't get a box of new product on the way out. That is still pretty significant. It is less significiant only having a week to wait, and it is less special when held in card shops, but those are other matters. The simple truth is if you don't want the information, don't come to the place where they give you the information.
If they want to have prereleases for free, maybe then people will happily be surprised by everything. Otherwise, for $30, which is far too much for the product they give, I want to give myself a chance to win more product. It is extremely fair that someone would want a chance to get as much information as possible as opposed to paying $30 for a pig in a poke. There are obviously far more people who want this information as soon as possible than people who like to wait, which is why WOTC is getting ahead of the unauthorized leaks. 

The difference between release and prerelease is that when you are done playing you can't get a box of new product on the way out. That is still pretty significant. It is less significiant only having a week to wait, and it is less special when held in card shops, but those are other matters. The simple truth is if you don't want the information, don't come to the place where they give you the information.

I'm not trying to contradict your point, but where are you paying $30 for a prerelease?  It's $25 (or less) pretty much everywhere I've been to, which includes stores in North Carolina, Maryland, Oregon, and California.

I haven't been able to attend a big prerelease since they eliminated most of them, however, which makes me sad.


Speaking of sad, it looks like people just voted for the high dollar Mythics again.  Quicksilver Gargantuan is awesome and needs more love.  It's a great card for Johnny-Timmy-Spikes!  (Combo creature with a splashy effect and a high enough power/cost ratio to be dangerous, at least in less cutthroat environments.)

Thanks to everyone who helped with the design of the plane of Golamo in the Great Designer Search 2!
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Its $30 at my local store.  Its a tiny thing, probably gets hardly anyone showing up.  I cant go because these things are almost always on off pay-weeks.  Stupid bills.
I'm not trying to contradict your point, but where are you paying $30 for a prerelease?  It's $25 (or less) pretty much everywhere I've been to, which includes stores in North Carolina, Maryland, Oregon, and California.



Seattle. I can;t remember the last time they were less than $30 to be honest. Possibly Future Sight.
I really hated the prerelease today. I love 2HG and poison has totally ruined it. Every game was decided by poison, usually in one turn and in a way that made the rest of the game redundant. It seems okay in Sealed but there's nothing beyond super expensive planeswalkers that is fun about this set. When I say fun, planeswalkers are only fun if they're on your side :/

It's been a long time since I disliked a set but every one I talked to today had a similar feeling of disappointment. 
Once again, I would like to comment that I attend a prerelase that's neither a regional prerelease nor a local STORE prerelase.  I attend a prerelease at a WPN location that's not a store, and I would appreciate being repreasented in the polls instead of sumbitting false poll information.  Thanks.

Also, more on topic, I only pay $15 for my prerelease, and that's for at minimum 7 packs, with a minimum total of 6 boxes of prize product.  We do have a pretty good deal with a local magic retailer who is donating a good portion of the product.  If anyone else prereleases at a non-profit location (as I do), talk to local retailers to get your prerelease price down, if it's $25 or more.  It's not impossible to find relatively inexpensive prereleases.

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Just to point it out, the guy who paid $30 may have been from a different country to you guys.  I'm in Australia, and they are $35 here.  Exchange rate and all that.
Before the change to store and regional prereleases, the state prereleases I attended costed $30 (although there were special multi event price packages that lowered the cost of a single prerelease).  The store prerelease I usually attend costs $25.  I am from Indiana by the way.  I know that there are other prerelease locations in my area, but I have been just fine paying $25 every three months that I haven't bothered to find any place cheaper.
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Since Tom didn't deliver any meat with his article again, I'd like to take the opportunity and pose a question that I haven't seen answered anywhere on the mothership:

Why is the whole set spoiled before the prerelease?

Or to put it another way:

What's the difference between release and prerelease when the whole set is officially spoiled beforehand?



If they want to have prereleases for free, maybe then people will happily be surprised by everything. Otherwise, for $30, which is far too much for the product they give, I want to give myself a chance to win more product. It is extremely fair that someone would want a chance to get as much information as possible as opposed to paying $30 for a pig in a poke. There are obviously far more people who want this information as soon as possible than people who like to wait, which is why WOTC is getting ahead of the unauthorized leaks.





I think this may have played a bigger part in the change of procedure than most realize. WOTC may have gotten tired of coughcoughcough getting all the attention in pre-release week. I still go there for the different POV's, but it's nice that the mothership has really stepped up for the past several sets. 




Also, $27 USD for my pre-release. I couldn't make it this past weekend, will try for this weekend.  
Proud member of C.A.R.D. - Campaign Against Rare Duals "...but the time has come when lands just need to be better. Creatures have gotten stronger, spells have always been insane, and lands just sat in this awkward place of necessity." Jacob Van Lunen on the refuge duals, 16 Sep 2009. "While it made thematic sense to separate enemy and allied color fixing in the past, we have come around to the definite conclusion that it is just plain incorrect from a game-play perspective. This is one of these situations where game play should just trump flavor." - Sam Stoddard on ending the separation of allied/enemy dual lands. 05 July 2013
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