9/09/2010 FtL: "Metal Mania"

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This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
...And there's another card for my Arcum Dagsson EDH deck. Yes sir, I can definitely make use of this. The fact that it's got a 3/5 body is also pretty nice for the format. Not amazing, but it can at least block something.
For anyone that's read the article, I'd just like to point out that saccing Darksteel Colossus won't untap a Thornbite Staff equipped creature or a Summoning Station as its replacement effect prevents it from hitting the graveyard at all (unlike something like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn whose triggered ability triggers from the graveyard before sending it to the library).

Edit: if you want a card that works for an infinite combo, a pair of Arcbound Reclaimer will do the trick by using the new one to put the previously sacrificed one back into your library. You'll even get a +1/+1 counter each cycle to boot.
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Speculation time! The cards in the last deck that appear to be combo pieces are Dross Scorpion, Junktroller, 
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Kuldotha Forgemaster, the mystery card, and possibly Everflowing Chalice.

The mystery card has to make creature tokens, or else the combo couldn't go infinite (and this is obviously an infinite combo). Junktroller causes me to suspect that each iteration involves something (almost certainly the mystery card) being searched up, sacrificed, then returned to the library. Assuming that the card is sacrificed to Kuldotha Forgemaster, it has to make two creature tokens every time it enters and leaves the battlefield. If it makes three tokens, though, it's an infinite token combo--which I believe it is, thanks to Akroma's Memorial. On every iteration, Dross Scorpion untaps three artifacts--two of which are Junktroller and Kuldotha Forgemaster. (If the combo needs a continuous supply of mana, Everflowing Chalice can be number three.)

Hence, I think we can assume that the card is an artifact that creates at least artifact three creature tokens every time it either enters or leaves the battlefield. It could possibly charge mana to do this. It could even need to be tapped; Akroma's Memorial can give it haste if it's a creature. (It probably doesn't require its own sacrifice to make the tokens, though; then we'd need four tokens, and that's more than are likely.)
Speculation time! The cards in the last deck that appear to be combo pieces are Dross Scorpion, Junktroller,  html_removed Kuldotha Forgemaster, the mystery card, and possibly Everflowing Chalice.

The mystery card has to make creature tokens, or else the combo couldn't go infinite (and this is obviously an infinite combo). Junktroller causes me to suspect that each iteration involves something (almost certainly the mystery card) being searched up, sacrificed, then returned to the library. Assuming that the card is sacrificed to Kuldotha Forgemaster, it has to make two creature tokens every time it enters and leaves the battlefield. If it makes three tokens, though, it's an infinite token combo--which I believe it is, thanks to Akroma's Memorial. On every iteration, Dross Scorpion untaps three artifacts--two of which are Junktroller and Kuldotha Forgemaster. (If the combo needs a continuous supply of mana, Everflowing Chalice can be number three.)

Hence, I think we can assume that the card is an artifact that creates at least artifact three creature tokens every time it either enters or leaves the battlefield. It could possibly charge mana to do this. It could even need to be tapped; Akroma's Memorial can give it haste if it's a creature. (It probably doesn't require its own sacrifice to make the tokens, though; then we'd need four tokens, and that's more than are likely.)



That would be incredible with all the metal craft.

the block needs a lotus too. How 'bout a little speculation

Living Lotus   0

Legendary  Artifact

T: Pay 3 Life: put three Artifact Petal Creatures into play. These creatures are 0/1.


To paraphrase Lloyd Bentson:
Sir, I served with Tinker, I knew Tinker, Tinker was a friend of mine. Sir, you're no Tinker.
Would I call this Tinker? Well, it doesn't appear to be made by a small drunk child, so I would not say so. It has a very strong effect at 5 mana though. I would have thought it would have been graveyard based, but what's the deck but the new old graveyard anyway?

This card may find a home in combo decks. I'm still waiting in hope to see if Myr Servator or Myr Incubator are being reprinted after the Mana Myr showed up. If any sort of small recurring artifacts appear, then this could figure in prominently  (I'm also expecting the metagame to slow down some in this Mirrodin block).

From the casual side, this fits in perfectly with a certain artifact deck I have from the old Mirrodin. I'm glad they didn't try to sell this off as Mythic (which outside of the Mox seems reasonable this block).  
Comparing that to tinker is like comparing OWN to LED.
Comparing that to tinker is like comparing OWN to LED.


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The art in this card is really, really bad.
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57817638 wrote:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
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56747598 wrote:
57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
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76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
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57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
99812049 wrote:
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
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56854588 wrote:
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
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WOAH wait wait wait
56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
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Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
56957928 wrote:
OH MY GOD
109874309 wrote:
The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
82032421 wrote:
The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
56874518 wrote:
Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
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58280208 wrote:
You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
57817638 wrote:
57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
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58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
56965458 wrote:
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
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57309598 wrote:
I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
58325628 wrote:
Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.
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But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
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Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :
57927608 wrote:
to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
58347268 wrote:
when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
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I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Dymecoar:
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
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Zigeif777:
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
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58258708 wrote:
It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
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94618431 wrote:
I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
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My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days. We named it Grixis, but it died.
Unearth it!
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Comparing that to tinker is like comparing OWN to LED.



Sorry, Kuldotha Forgemaster is way better than One With Nothing.  OWN only allows you to activate Hellbent or Threshold quicker than normal.  The Forgemaster allows you to get expensive artifacts (such as Darksteel Forge) on the field without worrying about counterspells.

One With Nothing is all cost for no good effect while Kuldotha Forgemaster is high cost for a good effect.

Of course this card doesn't compare well with Tinker.  However, the end result is the same.  You can sac three low cost artifacts (maybe Memnite or Ornithopter) to bring out a strong artifact you need.

(I am assuming that OWN and LED refer to One With Nothing and Lion's Eye Diamond respectively.  If not, what do they mean?)  
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Now that the mystery card has been revealed in today's Latest Developments,  return to this week's From the Lab and see how it combos up!
this card makes shatter a 4-1.....icky.
It's a new version of Lifespinner. Although this one is more combo-licious, it feels a bit strange, that this is a creature. In a flavor-centric development, this would/should have been a non-creature artifact similar to a Forge, Station or Portal.
Now that the mystery card has been revealed in today's Latest Developments,  return to this week's From the Lab and see how it combos up!


You actually don't need the Junktroller on the battlefield to start the combo, unless you've drawn the Akroma's Memorial or at least two Battlespheres.  By the time you get the third Battlesphere out, you will have six extra Myr tokens, which is enough to fetch a Junktroller and an Akroma's Memorial.