KOTH = King of the Hill...on a planeswalker that deals with mountains.Your pun has been decoded by Inspector Owl. `|:>
-5: An ultimate that is basically a super-efficient Comet Storm
He's really underwhelming.
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I think Koth is easily the most powerful of the new planeswalkers, I hope since he´s kind of restricted to mono-red that his price will stay in a reasonable range.
He's really underwhelming. Like Sarkhan, he'll do great as long as your deck has multiples. But if you only have one, he's not going to work too well. Also, as it's been stated, he really needs to be in a mono-red/artifact deck to work extremely well... but I bet there will be exceptions to this, because, well, someone will have to prove themselves of being able to do so.
This guy is kinda lackluster with ball lightning and hell's thunder variants out when alara rotates.
This guy is kinda lackluster with ball lightning and hell's thunder variants out when alara rotates. I guess wizards wants to push big red instead of red burn.
I dunno, I've been testing Venser in UW control (the only current new cards I've put in being 3x Venser and 2x Contagion Engine), and Venser is totally game breaking (primarily using his +2 ability with Wall of Omens, Mnemonic Wall and Contagion Engine). His ultimate isn't hard to get off coupled with proliferate (x2 on Contagion Engine, and the mana isn't hard to spare with an Everflowing Chalice on the field), and with 8 permission spells in the deck being recylced with Mnemonic Wall bounces they basically become "counter target spell AND exile target permanent". Great way to shut someone down.
The ultimate sounds like an interesting fit for Quest for Pure Flame - although at that point it might just be a "win more" condition. It could be awesome with proliferate to set up the ultimate on turn 5, if there's a good enough red proliferate card.
Does anyone know what the ebay price is currently and would anyone, particularly those whose response to the Jace 2.0 problem was a rather dismissive "I bought mine on ebay at $30 before they went up" what price you think is the right to buy at?
Unlike the Jace situation, this is the first set of a 3-card block. So supply will keep coming for the entire year, and likely push prices down more and more until next time this fall. (Obviously swinging up and down as whatever red deck this favors goes in and out of popularity.) So we don't have the makings of an $80 card.
But what to really watch for is the evenness of the Mythics. The problem with Jace was that it was so far and away the best card. Then much further down was Abyssal Persecutor, then just crap. If we're looking at Koth and a bunch of Quicksilver Gargantuans, $40-50 will be the norm. Here's the Mythics known so far:
Elspeth TirelQuicksilver GargantuanGeth, Lord of the VaultSkithiryx, the Blight DragonKoth of the HammerLiege of the TangleVenser, the SojournerMindslaverMox OpalPlatinum EmperionSword of Body and MindWurmcoil Engine
Two of those are reprints and therefore won't be soaking up too much value. Too soon to tell, perhaps, on Elspeth and Venser. Maybe there's hope for Skithiryx, Emperion, or one of the 3 unspoiled cards, but I'm not holding my breath.
It looks to me like Mox Opal will be the #1 chase card for the set and Koth will be #2. I think probably he'll be in the $20-$30 range, assuming the loss of Alara brings back mono-color and that red does well in that environment. At the least, it might be a good idea to pick up Kargan Dragonlord now in case Koth raises the demand for them.
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I really disagree with the author on one point. Sarkhan Vol is really not a bad card. I kinda like it. (his -2 with Bazaar Trader is just hilarious!)
He's really underwhelming. Like Sarkhan, he'll do great as long as your deck has multiples. But if you only have one, he's not going to work too well. Also, as it's been stated, he really needs to be in a mono-red/artifact deck to work extremely well... but I bet there will be exceptions to this, because, well, someone will have to prove themselves of being able to do so.Huh? This guy is ridiculous. If you want to complain about him, complain about how much he is going to cost on the secondary market. The only upside in that respect is that he needs to be played in near monored so he won't be as ubiquitous as Jace or Elspeth. It's really hard to evaluate planeswalkers in the abstract, but my guess is that he is somewhere around Ajani Vengeant and Garruk Wildspeaker in power level (ie a notch below Jace and Elspeth).I'm with Highwayman in lamenting the sudden price spike of the optimal monored burn deck in Standard. Monored's had it pretty good in recent years, but I haven't forgotten those Ravnica era days when red burn decks needed to be two colors and run $10+ cards like Char, Stomping Ground, Blood Crypt, and Dark Confidant.
He's really underwhelming.
Possibly, but this guy needs to boot Chandra out of M12.
+1 "Hey, more mana!" or "How do you feel about me playing a planeswalker, and hitting you in the face?"-2 "Hey, a lot more mana!" or "Hey, I just played a planeswalker, and I'm still going to hit you in the face."-5 "Hey, look what my mana can do!" or "Hey, watch this potential game changer get annhilated by Leyline of Sanctity because red has nothing to get rid of it."Yeah, that's right. I went there.