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dam this is just crazy hit to everyone...glad i decided not to get into extended last year
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Hopefully, it'll make it more accessable.  However I feel like it'll become a combination of past year's standard formats and not something entirely unique.  Oh well...

Torance829 (12:44:33 AM): atleast extended will be like 5 cents



Torance829 (12:44:38 AM): cause no one will play it

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Hopefully, it'll make it more accessable.  However I feel like it'll become a combination of past year's standard formats and not something entirely unique.  Oh well...




If you don't think extended is perhaps the most accesible format right now you need to GTFO.
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Suddenly 10,000 baddies sang in rejoice as goyf, gifts, thopter combo and every interesting card in extended was eliminated. Well, at least we will still have Lorwyn! Because that set had so many interesting, complex cards like... Well, at least we will still have goats.
Of course I'm sure I've gone mad. The little man who crawled out of my eye was quite clear on this.
Hopefully, it'll make it more accessable.  However I feel like it'll become a combination of past year's standard formats and not something entirely unique.  Oh well...





If you don't think extended is perhaps the most accesible format right now you need to GTFO.


Let me rephrase that.  More accessable to new players.  While it had a large card pool, I found the cost of having to buy shock lands, as well as other format staples, really made it feel restrictive as a format.  Having the smaller pool makes it more open to new players, who are only familiar with the most recent sets.
Faeries will be a bit of an issue...will just have to pack teh hatezorz.

Let me rephrase that.  More accessable to new players.  While it had a large card pool, I found the cost of having to buy shock lands, as well as other format staples, really made it feel restrictive as a format.  Having the smaller pool makes it more open to new players, who are only familiar with the most recent sets.



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So now I can't play with Gifts Ungiven anymore...

Hopefully, it'll make it more accessable.  However I feel like it'll become a combination of past year's standard formats and not something entirely unique.  Oh well...






If you don't think extended is perhaps the most accesible format right now you need to GTFO.



Let me rephrase that.  More accessable to new players.  While it had a large card pool, I found the cost of having to buy shock lands, as well as other format staples, really made it feel restrictive as a format.  Having the smaller pool makes it more open to new players, who are only familiar with the most recent sets.



Almost as if theres a format called standard for that.

Also shocklands are less then the current fetchlands
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Well atleast I can try to put together old 5cc control.
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Just heard about this.

The amount of wow-ing and facepalming I'm doing is unbelievable. Um.

Um. Like.

Wow.

Really? WotC?

omegadwhywhywhyscooooooooooooooooooop

On the bright side, I will just play Faeries...
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Wow... I never saw this coming.  I was just getting into Extended too.  I really wish that they would have left Time Spiral in when Scars of Mirrodin entered in, at least.
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I was really looking forward to extended without mirrodin, I though it could be interesting.... Guess we'll never know....

Shocklands are kind of what I consider at the heart of the extended format, losing the whole fetch-shock manabase will just turn it into standard really.  Also, this makes shocklands pretty much worthless now, and legacy even less accessible......

I guess if they don't make the new format they were planning to, they will be losing a lot of extended players. Time Spiral, Ravnica and Kami blocks are where all the interesting cards are in extended really(obviously mirrodin, but that was leaving anyway).

I'm in the "this is a bad idea" camp for sure.
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This is pretty sudden, and also pretty horrifyingly bad. So basically... its extendastandard.

Ok, so WotC took Shock/Fetch interactions, 2 different combos, the best green creature ever printed, and the entirety of Ravnica Block and threw them out the window?

Great. Neo extended DTB- Fae. With Jace 2.0. Awesome.

This is such a bad idea.
Sooo if I remember right till october its going to be RbDW, fae, WW, kithkin, 5CC control. Cause that was what standard was when lor block was legal. Heck I cant even use my $100 MGA since they nuked rav block.  Boo wizards BOOOOOOOO
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Shocklands are kind of what I consider at the heart of the extended format, losing the whole fetch-shock manabase will just turn it into standard really.  Also, this makes shocklands pretty much worthless now, and legacy even less accessible......



Exactly my thoughts as well.

I sold all my beta-revised duals back when the recession started cuz I needed some serious cash. Under the impression that all was not lost, atleast I could play with shocks for several years to come in extended (1 beta dual almost got me a comlete playset of shocks). Guess Im an idiot. Now the price of duals will probably go up even more if people start fleeing to legacy. Which equates to a double loss on my part.

Also I would like to personally thank Wizards for prematurely obseleting 3 tournament viable extended decks that I just built.

Almost as if theres a format called standard for that.

Also shocklands are less then the current fetchlands


Or for players who want to expand beyond standard?

And my lgs sells shocklands and Zendikar fetchlands for around the same cost.  In a few cases, shocklands were a little more expensive.
I like the change...I do think cutting Ravnica is a big mistake though.  I honestly think that if they kept that in, even for another year, people would be much happier.
I like the change...I do think cutting Ravnica is a big mistake though.  I honestly think that if they kept that in, even for another year, people would be much happier.



Agreed.  Granted, I only have the smallest smattering of shock lands (and wasn't planning on using them when I got into Extended), but they'd probably have a lot less backlash to deal with.
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well there goes my Gifts rock deck XD

also there goes zoo, and dredge, hypergenesis, thepths, thopter sword, and the return of faeries being good and jund not ever actually staying dead XD
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for a moment i was like "yay, i can play scapeshift!"... then i went "ah ****, no rav duals...."

guess i'll be migrating to legacy.... 
possible decks for superstandard(calling it extended is mean and untrue.)

RDW/Rg


Jund/jund mannequin/jund hastey beats


UGB mannequin?


4 color mannequin?


WG/BW tokens


5cc?


Fae


WW


Scapeshift?


Some sort of bant deck with goyfs finks with some sort of NLB port?


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I have T2 Jund and may just port it.  I'm going to pick up 4 bitterblossoms tomorrow, though, since they'll be $30 each again soon.
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// Deck file for Magic Workstation (www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
    3 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
    3 [DDE] Swamp (2)
    4 [LRW] Secluded Glen
    4 [IN] Island (2)
    4 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
    2 [RAV] Forest (2)
    4 [M10] Drowned Catacomb

// Creatures
    4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
    2 [LRW] Mistbind Clique
    3 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
    4 [LRW] Spellstutter Sprite

// Spells
    4 [MOR] Bitterblossom
    3 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    4 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
    4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
    4 [M10] Ponder

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
SB: 3 [DDD] Faerie Macabre



Pre-Scars Fae?  It seems fine.  The format will most likely be tight as hell for a while, thus the Pierce.
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So when UR Delver came out to win a GP, did Christian Calcano email/call you and thank you personally, or was there just a mutual understanding?
Legitimately laughed at this...haha
No kidding. +1 internets for a hidden gem in the standard deck help.
Anyone think Mystical Teachings will be better then Fae?

It trumped it during Timesprial/lor pretty well. 
// Deck file for Magic Workstation (www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
    3 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
    3 [DDE] Swamp (2)
    4 [LRW] Secluded Glen
    4 [IN] Island (2)
    4 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
    2 [RAV] Forest (2)
    4 [M10] Drowned Catacomb

// Creatures
    4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
    2 [LRW] Mistbind Clique
    3 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
    4 [LRW] Spellstutter Sprite

// Spells
    4 [MOR] Bitterblossom
    3 [LRW] Cryptic Command
    4 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
    4 [LRW] Thoughtseize
    4 [M10] Ponder

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
SB: 3 [DDD] Faerie Macabre



Pre-Scars Fae?  It seems fine.  The format will most likely be tight as hell for a while, thus the Pierce.



ancestral visions?

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Oh yeah.  That list is 56 cards, btw.  That's probably where the 3-4 should go.
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Legitimately laughed at this...haha
No kidding. +1 internets for a hidden gem in the standard deck help.
I, for one, am not too dissattisfied with the idea. Sure, my collection of schock-lands will become worthless, but I think that the new format sounds like a lot of fun.

Extended was kind of a no-man's land. If you wanted truly broken combo decks fighting each other, you'd play Vintage. If you wanted the most powerful 'regular' decks in a more open format, you'd play Legacy. If you wanted a more dynamic format, you'd play Standard. Extended was kinda in-between, which showed on the tournament-participations.

It will still be kind of in-between, of course, but at least it's much more dynamic that Legacy, and more powered than Standard. I'll miss playing with shock-lands for sure, though.
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so much for my idea of getting into ext next season....

hell, this probably makes it easier... but wtf?  no rav duals is just... just stupid

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Damn, damn!

I hope this new format exist! 
I literally cannot believe this is happening, all of a sudden it's just saying good bye to extended...and hello standard.

I don't even care about the duals as much as I care about losing all the fun combos like Dark Depths, Hypergensis, Thopter Combo, Scapeshift, Dredge, Sunny Side Eggs (if people even played that freaking deck), Affinity, D-Storm (once again barely viable), and the list would keep going on
so much for my idea of getting into ext next season....

hell, this probably makes it easier... but wtf?  no rav duals is just... just stupid



I really like how people were constantly speculating the reprinting of the Ravnica Duals in something like a Core Set, constantly wishing for it and now...now that the are rotating out everyone is pissed at not being able to use their Duals...despite the chances of them being printed in say, 2012 or in a Return to Rav Block just shot up dramatically.


so much for my idea of getting into ext next season....

hell, this probably makes it easier... but wtf?  no rav duals is just... just stupid




I really like how people were constantly speculating the reprinting of the Ravnica Duals in something like a Core Set, constantly wishing for it and now...now that the are rotating out everyone is pissed at not being able to use their Duals...despite the chances of them being printed in say, 2012 or in a Return to Rav Block just shot up dramatically.






I love how the rotation of the fetchlands was also the rotation that they were reprinted. Almost as if they could of done that for shocklands


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This has got to be the stupidest idea WoTC ever came up with.  I've literally been waiting YEARS for Mirrodin/Kamigawa to rotate out so we could have Ravnica/TSP be the oldest sets.  Now they are skipping Ravnica and sending TSP out in a few months?

Final straw WoTC.  It was bad enough to have to buy $50 Mythics just to stay competitve.  It was bad enough that you've dumbed down magic to make it more accessible for newbies.  Well good luck with your newbies, this player has had enough.  The best cards in Extended are the ones you took out.  Your enlarged extended doesn't interest me, I'm one of those "new" players you've spent the last few years trying to lure.  I was finally going to GET to play extended when you hosed it.  Going back to the days of Fae?  No freaking thank you.

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Poor move WotC... I have been with this game off and on since 95. Finally getting back into the scene and lookin forward to some extended and it sux. You're gonna push those of us who have been in the game for a while to Legacy/Vintage which is a greater cash sink. Let ppl enjoy this game, you have standard for you $$ making, leave extended alone.. Great way to reward your long term players.

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