6/10/2010 FtL: "Aura Heights"

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This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.

The Umbra Mystic deck looks okay, but I think having it enchanted with Followed Footsteps would be more fun.
Hellkite Charger + Bear Umbra = Charge and charge and charge and charge...
Kinda neglected to finish your thought, didn't you Noel?

Also, while the Fetterball is worth mentioning, it would have been cooler if you'd actually put it in this deck.  No Simic Guildmage, Aura Finesse, or suchlike = no Fetterball (or, um, Disrepairball).
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Destroying the first Quiet Disrepair will be replaced by destroying the second one will be replaced by destroying the first one again—and then you'll stop, because each replacement effect has been "used up."



Actually no, the second aura is not enchanted so if it would be destroyed, there will be no replacment effect at all (there's a difference between to beeing entchanting and beeing enchanted, same goes for beeing attached to something and by something).

By the way how did the Keyword "totem armor" managed to get two different reminder texts:
On the normal auras it says: "If enchanted creature would be destroyed, instead remove all damage from it and destroy this Aura."
On Umbra Mystic: "If an enchanted permanent you control would be destroyed, instead remove all damage from it and destroy an Aura attached to it."

The later one seems to be rather confusing to some players.
no Spirit Loop with Evershrike? boo...
I would have killed, literally ended someones life, to NOT have Arrogant Bloodlord riding a giant ant... Good times:
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but where DID the other fork come from?
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Lord_Zed: I was at my friends house when this happened. He's married and his wife was an excellent baker. She had baked a homemade apple pie the night before. I was hungry, and my friend convinced me to try those low carb monster drinks. Before this day, I had never triend energy drinks before. Boy was I in for a treat. When I tried that first monster, I really enjoyed the flavor, but the taste that it left in my mouth wasn't so good. What was my solution? Drink another! before I could finish drinking that 2nd monster, I felt it already kicking in(these drinks were not very far apart, we're talking minutes here) my friend decided that it was a good idea to whip out that fresh pie his wife made the night before. I didn't know what to do, since I felt incredibly invigorated, and at the same time, freaked out by the rush I was feeling, but I was also hungry, and my friend have me an entire plate with a fork and said "help yourself." He extended his saucer to me, and I cut him a piece of the pie and handed it to him, then I looked at the pie, noticed that the pie was in an aluminum holder, and dumped the entire pie onto my plate and started eating it with 2 forks. I don't know where I found that other fork, it probably came from my friend. Anyhow, his wife wasn't happy, and I was already in magical christmas land. 2 days later, I was in my friends bed and I slept for 14 hours. His wife outlawed my from having any of her baked goods for a while(which sucked because I could just show up at there house, steal some sweets, and leave) and said I couldn't have any energy drinks at her house, unless under close watch. My friend, on the other hand, had to take me out to a steak dinner, because apparently I won a bet where I climbed a tree and didn't die.
The great land debate:
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97563441 wrote:
Zendikar had fetchlands, and Worldwake had manlands. What are the new Scars duals called?
61325265 wrote:
Explosive Peanut Lightning lands. Well, that's just what I call them.
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58232598 wrote:
i'm just trying to figure out what the point of saying this is. it's just really random.
And so the pot met the kettle.
Umbra Mystic and Faith's Fetters may not work so well together. if the opponent can manage to "destroy" its own creature, he will destroy the fetters, which coould be used for a nasty surprise.

I liked the irony in using Quiet Disrepair to save enchantments, rather than destroy them.
Opponent could save his creature by sacrificing Faith's Fetters only if he would control an Umbra Mystic of his own.

it works the other way arround thought - you can choose to destroy an opponent's pacifism instead your creature or one of your auras enchanting it

I was expecting a Featherball deck.
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57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
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76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
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57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
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I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
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Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
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56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
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"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
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Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
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The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
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Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
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Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
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You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
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57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
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58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
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Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
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I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
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to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
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when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
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Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
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It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
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I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
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By the way how did the Keyword "totem armor" managed to get two different reminder texts:
On the normal auras it says: "If enchanted creature would be destroyed, instead remove all damage from it and destroy this Aura."
On Umbra Mystic: "If an enchanted permanent you control would be destroyed, instead remove all damage from it and destroy an Aura attached to it."

The later one seems to be rather confusing to some players.



It's because the Totem auras only enchant creatures, while the Mystic gives ALL of your Auras the Totem ability, regardless of what type of permanent they enchant. So her reminder text has to be different by necessity, because you can have a land, an enchantment, and an artifact all enchanted with different Auras when the Mystic hits play. I can see how it can be a little confusing, but there is a logic to it.

Destroying the first Quiet Disrepair will be replaced by destroying the second one will be replaced by destroying the first one again—and then you'll stop, because each replacement effect has been "used up."



Actually no, the second aura is not enchanted so if it would be destroyed, there will be no replacment effect at all (there's a difference between to beeing entchanting and beeing enchanted, same goes for beeing attached to something and by something).




I believe he stated specifically that they were enchanting each other; via Simic Guildmage or the like, you move the first Disrepair onto the new one, so that they enchant each other. I think he understands the rules well enough to understand the difference between enchanting and being enchanted...

Destroying the first Quiet Disrepair will be replaced by destroying the second one will be replaced by destroying the first one again—and then you'll stop, because each replacement effect has been "used up."




Actually no, the second aura is not enchanted so if it would be destroyed, there will be no replacment effect at all (there's a difference between to beeing entchanting and beeing enchanted, same goes for beeing attached to something and by something).





I believe he stated specifically that they were enchanting each other; via Simic Guildmage or the like, you move the first Disrepair onto the new one, so that they enchant each other. I think he understands the rules well enough to understand the difference between enchanting and being enchanted...



oh rhight they where attached via simic, thought, then what he said is still wrong:

702.86a Totem armor is a static ability that appears on some Auras. "Totem armor" means "If enchanted permanent would be destroyed, instead remove all damage marked on it and destroy this Aura."


(they should have just used this as the reminder on both cards)

604.2. Static abilities create continuous effects, some of which are prevention effects or replacement effects. These effects are active as long as the permanent with the ability remains on the battlefield and has the ability, or as long as the object with the ability remains in the appropriate zone, as described in rule 112.6.


614.1a Effects that use the word "instead" are replacement effects. Most replacement effects use the word "instead" to indicate what events will be replaced with other events.


or in other words: totem aura is not an effect that can be "used up" in a loop situation, causing them to replace each other in an infinity loop wich will end the game in an draw and not just stop.
That has the same reason which allows totem armor chain reaction - each totem armor replaces the old destruction event on the enchanted permanent with a totaly new one destroying itslef, allowing totem armor abillities of permanents enchanting it to repalce it.

he probblably got cunfused by this rule:
614.5. A replacement effect doesn't invoke itself repeatedly and gets only one opportunity for each event.


<- end of quote but somehow the tag gets ignored....->
but this means nothing more as one event can only be replaced once - if the permanent that is going to be destroyed has several replacment effects for this you can choose whitch one will be used, the others will do nothing. The resulting event could then be replaced again.

A continuous replacment effect can still replace other events.
Unquestioned Authority is not extended legal like the deck tag says...
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