Echoing another poster, there are alot of cards which essentially works as cantrips when you are behind:4 Spreading Seas3 Prophetic Prism3 Relic of Progenitus1 into the roiland 3 divinationThe effect of this is that you are almost playing a 46-card deck. In that context, I think 26 land might be too much (equivalent to 34 land with no card draw or cantrips). It means that your cantrips and card draw barely work as card advantage (or even card parity) when you are under any pressure; two thirds of the cards you draw are land or cantrips, and do nothing immediate to affect the board or hand. Only 10 cards affect the board at all, and 3 of those cost 6 mana.By contrast, a UW control deck will generally have 26-28 and 8 cantrips (4 wall of omens and 4 spreading seas), which works out as equivalent to 30-32 lands. They also have the advantage that four of those cantrips help you if you are behind and very often generate card advantage. That wouldn't be so bad if all the action cards you did draw were powerful mana-intensive X-for-1s, but most of them are one for one spells, with the notable exceptions of cruel ultimatum and mind shatter. I think more powerful card advantage generating spells like that might be the way to go (earthquake for example, which I don't think is beyond the budget of the column?). Again, the contrast with UW is hugely unfavourable (their action cards are card advantage generators like the planeswalkers, day of judgment, martial coup and mind spring).I understand that the column is building on a budget and UW is a very powerful and very expensive deck, but I think removal counts are low enough right now that an approach based on card advantage generators like sedraxis specter, siege-gang commander, gatekeeper of malakir, earthquake and sea gate oracle would have just been a better, if more expensive, deck. It would still easily have been budget for standard right now, thus meeting your own criterion for 'budget'. Essentially a budgetised (read: jaceless and perhaps rare-land-less) version of the grixis decks currently running around tier 1.5/tier 2, like mike flores in mentioned a few weeks back in his column. As it is, your list looks somehat similar to those, but with gas stripped out for cantrips.
it isn't original.
I agree. What is wrong w/ Jacob not coming up with an original deck every week using cards that are cheaper than one copy of Jace 2.0 and still beat all the best decks refined over months by the best players in the world? Who does he think he is not delivering something original every single week.
I agree. What is wrong w/ Jacob not coming up with an original deck every week using cards that are cheaper than one copy of Jace 2.0 and still beat all the best decks refined over months by the best players in the world? Who does he think he is not delivering something original every single week.I think the bug of it is if the article going to feature decks you can find on the standard deck help forum then do you really need to have someone writing the article? I didn't have a problem with it, but I know lack of innovation/using common decklists has been brought up for his articles before, so I can fully understand people getting frustrated with seeing it.As for the article itself, sad to see so little testing against vengevine with the build up at the top and the echo at the end that he wanted more relics to stop vengevine decks :/
How many people in those forums are as good at Magic as Jacob? Probably the same number that are as good at Magic as Jacob writing for this website-zero. I've seen tons of people want to talk shop with pro players at big events, yet here one does every week and it gets tons of complaints about originality. They have from the lab for that. Do people really need two columns a week of "Hey guys, here's an original deck that went 3-7 in the casual room on modo. Yay!"?
A great player explains how to play the game at high levels each week and people are upset someone's used cruel ultimatum before? The guy is good, but he can't make the banewasp afflictions of the game suddenly competitive.
57070368 wrote:58280208 wrote:Even metallix is gone now.
I'm right here.
58280208 wrote:Even metallix is gone now.
Come on guys, there has been articles about more casual ideas like Level up, Johnny forays like the Surreal ascencion deck and budget stuff like Beastmaster ascension, and as soon as he tries a standard approximation of a control list you start complaining about not being original. JVL has to keep a lot of different people happy and he won't satisfy all of them with a single article. Just wait for another article when the current one wasn't directed at you.About Grixis, I think Nicol Bolas would be a better fit than Cruel Ultimatum now. Cruel Ultimatum won't achieve a lot when the opponent already controls two or more planeswalkers and is quite more difficult to cast when lands are spread. Nicol Bolas can start stealing beaters or destroying walkers as soon as he comes into play without forcing you to go aggro. Is the additional mana a big difference?I agree that Divination feels subpar. Even Sea gate oracle can achieve some filtering while offering a body to chump block or beat.
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