5/13/2010 FtL: "A Lot of EXP Points"

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This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab, which goes live Thursday morning on magicthegathering.com.
The standard echomage deck looks fun, just with all the removal in standard it seems a pipe dream to ever get working.
I like fun, but competitive decks. So I might not play what is optimal but they have normally been tested to have a 2/3 winrate.
When I first saw Renegade Doppelganger, it was almost immediately obvious to me that it exists primarily to give an Eldrazi "haste", which alone made it one of my favorite cards in the set.  Only last night did I also spot the leveler interaction.  But Noel is describing this badly; Transcendant Master is to be used only as the cheapest source of level counters for the Doppelganger in a white-blue deck (Coralhelm Commander fills that role in mono-blue).  Once the Doppler is as full up as it can get, you can ditch the Master rather than waste mana adding more counters to a guy who doesn't fully level until 12; with the Doppler picking up counters with generic mana in the early game,  you just want to drop some hard-to-level brute like Zulaport Enforcer or Kabira General for the game-winning swing.

Speaking of Doubling Season, while it might be crazy with Levelers, it's much crazier with Eldrazi Spawn.  My favorite play is to use Growth Spasm to stick Doubling Season on turn 4, then on turn five drop an Emrakul's Hatcher to gain six Spawn tokens.  If you have one previous Eldrazi Spawn from a Spawning Breath or Brood Birthing, you can then pop all six Spawn and play Skittering Invasion to get ten Spawn, at which point you can either throw out Spawnsire of Ulamog or just have Sarkhan Vol power a massive attack.
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I think the reason he didn't have Lighthouse Chronologist in the deck is because it makes a really, really bad bombo with the Doppelganger, unless you have some way to get it out on your opponent's turn ('cuz it doesn't give you an extra turn at the end of your turn, otherwise it'd be a true lock).
The Standard deck seems to be a lot of fun for non-competitive Standard enviroments.
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57817638 wrote:
I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".
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56747598 wrote:
57295478 wrote:
Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.
Now, now. 1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".
56734518 wrote:
Oh, it's a brilliant plan. You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat. Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit. He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee. "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk. He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy. He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right. Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms. "THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!" And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.
57864098 wrote:
Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.
56747598 wrote:
76973988 wrote:
This thread has gotten creepy. XP
Really? Really? The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?
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57864098 wrote:
57531048 wrote:
Nice mana base. Not really.
Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.
99812049 wrote:
I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.
56816728 wrote:
56854588 wrote:
Of course, the best use [of tolaria west] is transmuting for the real Tolaria. ;)
Absolutely. I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria, and I was finally able win my first game.
70246459 wrote:
WOAH wait wait wait
56957928 wrote:
You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"
56957928 wrote:
Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates
56957928 wrote:
109874309 wrote:
The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.
82032421 wrote:
The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.
56747598 wrote:
Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available. "No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.
56874518 wrote:
Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.
70246459 wrote:
58280208 wrote:
You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.
57817638 wrote:
57145078 wrote:
You just... Vektor it.
That's the answer to everything.
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58347268 wrote:
I think the problem is that you don't exist.
This would sound great out of context!
56965458 wrote:
Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.
57864098 wrote:
57309598 wrote:
I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.
You make it sound like that's still not the case.
58325628 wrote:
Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.
Doug Beyer:
But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?
141434757 wrote:
Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :
57927608 wrote:
to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.
58347268 wrote:
when in rome **** AND PILLAGE
143229641 wrote:
I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.
Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets. You can do it...but why?
Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right." Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"
Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.
57471038 wrote:
58258708 wrote:
It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf, Darksteel Colossus, or Platinum Angel. It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus, Mox Sapphire, and Time Walk.
Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.
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94618431 wrote:
I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...
They can when they're using lightsabers!
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97980259 wrote:
My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days. We named it Grixis, but it died.
Unearth it!
70246459 wrote:
[/spoiler] And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you? Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now. Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
"William's original list didn't have Lighthouse Chronologist, so I added it with the funny play in mind of playing a Lord of Shatterskull Pass, sweeping your opponent's board, then casting a Chronologist post-combat and taking another turn soon after. It also has a cheap level up trigger."

This is incredibly wrong... First of all, if the Doppleganger is already copying the Lord, then when the Chronologist came into play, it would not change (read the reminder text.) Second of all, the Doppleganger's ability ends at end of turn, and the Chronologist doesn't do anything until the end of an opponent's turn. BOMBO!!!
Where is this William Houser post he mentions?  The only place I see Doppelganger and leveler in the same sentence is in my post from two weeks ago...  I've been playing the bad deck for the past three weeks and want my credit!
Where is this William Houser post he mentions?  The only place I see Doppelganger and leveler in the same sentence is in my post from two weeks ago...  I've been playing the bad deck for the past three weeks and want my credit!

He didn't say William Houser posted the idea on the forums.  William probably send the idea via email.
In the article, Noel writes:

"Consider this turn sequence: Turn one, Forest, Joraga Treespeaker. Turn two, Forest, level up the Treespeaker. Now tap it for

Green  ManaGreen  Mana and level it up again. It's only turn two and you've (appropriately) made it to level 2 already!"

A much better start he did not mention would be:

Turn one, Forest, Joraga Treespeaker. Turn two, Island, Training Ground, level up the

Treespeaker, Now tap for GG, and level it up twice

(or use the GG to cast another Treespeaker and level it up too,

so 6-7 Mana should be availabel at turn 3)!!


Throw Reality Spasm in the Echo Mage deck and you have infinite mana once you have enough mana sources to untap.

I heard about it in this article: The Call of Kozilek
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