Simply put, as the creator of your My Realms adventure, you can use any released material published by Wizards of the Coast. Printed content (such as Monster Manual books), Dragon Magazine article content (upon release of the compiled issue at the end of each month), monster statistics in the D&D Compendium, and monsters, traps, and NPCs of your own design are all approved.I was very surprised to see the bolded part. You don't even need a proper Rust Monster. Just make up your own Disenchantebeast.2. Even with the mighty Disenchantebeast, I don't think the campaign rules allow you to keep the bucketful of Residuum from a destroyed item. If something happens during an adventure to make your item gone, it's just gone. There's nothing to say otherwise. And nothing says you get to walk out of the mod with more gold/wealth than the cap for your tier.If the idea is to have someone use the Enchant Magic Item ritual during the adventure, using the bucket of residuum, that still doesn't fly. Otherwise you don't even need a Rust Monster. Just have a MYRE where the PCs come into possession of a million gold pieces worth of residuum, and have them craft away mid-adventure. Would anyone seriously allow this? Because that is exactly what's going on by using Rust Monsters - you're taking wealth found mid-adventure in excess of the "More Gold" option for that level range and turning it into an item/benefit lasting beyond the adventure.Heck, next mod I play with my wizard I'm Disenchanting all the items we find and then Enchanting myself a bunch of toys. And then I'm gonna take a bundle, yeah!
So, this is clearly not in the spirit of the MYRE's but if you really feel that need to have to do that, go for it. As has been pointed out a number of times, no LFR police are going to show up and audit your character or ask which MYRE was stupid enough to do all this.
Even if one does get audited, what can happen? I know of some people in my general area that have made wholesale changes to their characters, but their attitude is "so what?", and I can't see anything happening to stop them from actually playing...
I wish players took it upon themselves more often to police their peers. Unfortunately, this doesn't happen, at least in my area. I trust in the campaign staff to fix stuff that WotC cannot, or should not, fix within the core rules.There is a strong belief, especially among gamers, that if something is within the rules it should be allowed no questions asked. Look at all the clearly abusive stuff that was recently errataed. People took full advantage of these powers/feats and how many of us made it clear to them that we disapproved?
MYRE in which he turned a 10th level set of gloves into residuum and used that to craft another 10th level item
There is currently a level 18 weapon available from a normal non-SPEC module.Abusing rust monsters in this way allows you to turn that weapon into any level 18 item of your choice.
I just want to make sure I understand this, you're upset that they named a convention after Rust Monsters? The monster predates the first Monster Manual. It's been a running joke for almost 35 years. If anything, I'm amazed that this is the first con named after them. I think you're letting your imagination run a bit wild unless you have a little more information to link the name of the con to the issue of a honor system containing some people who have a little less honor than others.
I just want to make sure I understand this, you're upset that they named a convention after Rust Monsters? The monster predates the first Monster Manual. It's been a running joke for almost 35 years. If anything, I'm amazed that this is the first con named after them. I think you're letting your imagination run a bit wild unless you have a little more information to link the name of the con to the issue of a honor system containing some people who have a little less honor than others.Uh, no. I actually talked to the organizers. The con's sole purpose is to run Myres to abuse rust monsters in an attempt to get the admins to do something, whicbh I believe is a foolish plan. I posted in an attempt to let the admins know that this kind of thing is going to happen in the hopes they will do something about it.
really? Can you tell me which page /paragraph? I just read it and I see nothing about it.
There is nothing like getting feathers in a ruffle over an imaginary problem. And it is an imaginary problem. Because it is only a problem in a void. Nobody has actually made a Rust Monster Con in order to abuse the system. Someone put up a web page to prove a point. That is far from the same thing. And, no matter how hard you try to abuse the system, the system is remarkably self correcting. Furthermore, this abuse really only works in a limited social circle. As soon as a player who is obviously abusing the system leaves the small circle of people who allow the abuse, that player will run into a heap of problems. Some DMs will simply not allow the character to play at the table, while at a major convention, the character and player may be singled out to a global admin or other meaningful staff member who has the authority to take greater action.If someone sat at my table with an obviously illegal character, as a DM I would smile and point out they were cheating and that they could either bring a legal character or leave the table. And, yes, you claim it isn't illegal. I, and the majority of this board, claim otherwise. As a player, I would point out the irregularities to the DM and request the DM take action. I might even do something very bad like tear up the offending character sheet (probably not, but it is a thought).No matter what, though, it is still an imaginary problem, because as soon as a problem character interacts with the real world, the problem ceases to exist.-SYB
Its not like its even hard to fix this problem. All the admins need to say is that rusts monsters are not allowed in LFR. Thats it. Thats all that needs to be done to fix this horrendous problem.
The DM cannot specify what rules elements are or are not allowed for characters. This Character Creation Guide determines the legality of player resources for characters, not the DM.
Thats all that needs to be done to fix this horrendous problem.
Honor doesn't matter, its legal to have your items dusted by a rust monster. Its a part of the game.Its allowed under the current rules.
Honor doesn't matter, its legal to have your items dusted by a rust monster. Its a part of the game.Its allowed under the current rules. Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's honorable. There's a lot that's legal under the current rules, even more now that 1.95 is out. But those rules contain such passages as:"Players are on the honor system to make the minimum necessary changes. If your armor needs to change because of a class feature update, changing your (unaffected) weapon at the same time is not a legitimate use of these rules.Players are on the honor system to make the minimum necessary changes. If your armor needs to change because of a class feature update, changing your (unaffected) weapon at the same time is not a legitimate use of these rules."So yes, a rust monster is allowed under the current rules. Given the above paragraph, do you consider a rust monster to be a legitimate use of these rules within the honor system?
If a player shows up at your table with a +4 Bloodiron weapon and two War Rings which he got from rust monstering his +4 Harsh Songblade and his Face-Stealing Ring