BANT Extended Post Zendikar

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I was wondering if Bant had a chance at being a viable competitive deck for Extended after Zendikar came in. Any Ideas?

Bant is one of the most powerful decks in the format right now, and had a pretty good showing at Pro Tour Austin.  Right now, I'm working on a Dark Bant list that's been tearing up my testing gauntlet. 

Thanks for the Reply. I dont know if your at liberty to share you findings at all, but I really think bant has played second fiddle alot, which is sad because I see potential. I am new to my gaming area as I have just moved and I literallyt know nobody here in which to exchange Ideas. There is a gaming store which I plan to play at. My guess is a majority of them will pilot Zoo, Hyper, Dark Depths, and Dredge. If you wouldnt mind at all, can you please share some of your insights into a bant build and how it fares against the mentioned decks. As one Bant advocate to another, this would really help in representing our deck. Thanks.

For a while last season bant was all the rage.  It got a little hyped, but I can't see why it wouldn't be powerful now.  I think I know twins's decklist from our group forums, but I don't know if he wants me to post it, so I'll wait for him.

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Here's my list:


22 Land
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Verdant Catacombs
1 Scalding Tarn
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Breeding Pool
2 Temple Garden
3 Forest
2 Island
2 Treetop Village
1 Ghost Quarter

22 Creatures
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Rhox War Monk
3 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Kitchen Finks

16 Other Spells
4 Path to Exile
4 Mana Leak
3 Spell snare
3 Bant Charm
2 Umezawa's Jitte

15 Sideboard
4 Meddling Mage
3 Ghost Quarter
3 Ravenous Trap
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Threads of Disloyalty


It's great against Zoo; they have trouble dealing with your big creatures, removal, and RWM lifegain. 


Hypergenesis is a decent matchup.  It's a bit rough before sideboarding, but Meddling Mage from the board destroys them.


Dredge is fine.  Game 1 is hard, but you can bring in up to 10 cards agains them


Dark Depths is pretty easy, too.  You have lots of ways to deal with Marit Lage and can tutor for a Ghost Quarter with Knight of the Reliquary.  Qasali Pridemage also blows up Chalice, which is very relevant.  You also have plenty of sideboard stuff against Dark Depths.


Here's my list:


22 Land
4 Misty Rainforest
3 Verdant Catacombs
1 Scalding Tarn
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Breeding Pool
2 Temple Garden
3 Forest
2 Island
2 Treetop Village
1 Ghost Quarter

22 Creatures
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Qasali Pridemage
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Rhox War Monk
3 Knight of the Reliquary
3 Kitchen Finks

16 Other Spells
4 Path to Exile
4 Mana Leak
3 Spell snare
3 Bant Charm
2 Umezawa's Jitte

15 Sideboard
4 Meddling Mage
3 Ghost Quarter
3 Ravenous Trap
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Threads of Disloyalty


It's great against Zoo; they have trouble dealing with your big creatures, removal, and RWM lifegain. 


Hypergenesis is a decent matchup.  It's a bit rough before sideboarding, but Meddling Mage from the board destroys them.


Dredge is fine.  Game 1 is hard, but you can bring in up to 10 cards agains them


Dark Depths is pretty easy, too.  You have lots of ways to deal with Marit Lage and can tutor for a Ghost Quarter with Knight of the Reliquary.  Qasali Pridemage also blows up Chalice, which is very relevant.  You also have plenty of sideboard stuff against Dark Depths.



So you tested the zoo matchup?  That was the one thing I questioned, so if it's good then this deck looks awesome.  Good job twins, I'll have to try it out.
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Yeah, the Zoo matchup is good.  I might put a little more hate in the board, though, just because of how popular the deck is. 
// Deck file for Magic Workstation (www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
    4 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
    1 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
    2 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
    2 [RAV] Temple Garden
    2 [DIS] Breeding Pool
    3 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
    2 [ALA] Forest (3)
    1 [7E] Island (2)
    2 [SUM] Treetop Village
    1 [DIS] Ghost Quarter
    1 [MR] Seat of the Synod
    1 [MR] Tree of Tales

// Creatures
    4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
    4 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
    4 [ALA] Rhox War Monk
    3 [CFX] Knight of the Reliquary
    4 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
    3 [FD] Trinket Mage

// Spells
    3 [CFX] Path to Exile
    4 [8E] Mana Leak
    2 [ALA] Bant Charm
    2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
    3 [DIS] Spell Snare
    1 [FD] Engineered Explosives
    1 [10E] Pithing Needle

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [DIS] Ghost Quarter
SB: 1 [TSP] Academy Ruins
SB: 3 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [PS] Meddling Mage
SB: 2 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 2 [10E] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [CHK] Ghostly Prison

Not sure how I feel about this deck, tbh.
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Have you tested it at all?  Trinket Mage doesn't seem to do all that much for the deck.
Yeah, it's tested as crap, tbh.  I was hoping to solve the Gifts with it, but it's been lackluster.
57860688 wrote:
121183109 wrote:
57074928 wrote:
So when UR Delver came out to win a GP, did Christian Calcano email/call you and thank you personally, or was there just a mutual understanding?
Legitimately laughed at this...haha
No kidding. +1 internets for a hidden gem in the standard deck help.
Yeah, it's tested as crap, tbh.  I was hoping to solve the Gifts with it, but it's been lackluster.


What sideboard hate do we have for Gifts?  There's Hurkyl's Recall, but that might be a bit too narrow.  Ravenous Trap and Relic of Progenitus come in against Dredge, too, which makes them good options.  We could even splash Black for Extirpate, Thoughtseize, etc., as well as cards for other matchups (Deathmark is the first to pop into my head). 
Gifts is a decent matchup, you don't need too much specific hate, but probably rather some things that are ok against it and multiple matchups.
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ok, benefit of the doubt given to everyone since it was over a month ago. However, negate needs to be in the main, so does gaddock teeg. The quantity is debate-worthy, and one ghost quarter main is plenty. One in SB is more than enough. No EE or needle main. No reason to MD those. Same with the artifact lands and trinket mage. Dont get too cute. I played bant in extended and standard last season, and have played them this year. I had success. Stifle is missed, but qasali upgrades the trygon from last year, and knight of reliq is a well-needed sidekick to tarm that also acts as a mana fixer, special land tutor, and deck thinner. Vary the sideboard to accomodate your worst matchups only. Maindeck has enough hate with qasali, bant charm, negate, and path. SB should have you at 4 ofs with mage, teeg, and qasali. Think about sword of fire and ice, or light and shadow in sb. Sword of fire and ice was huge last year..and this year as well with bolts back. Also, troll ascetic won me games all by himself especially equipped. I'd be glad to answer any bant questions as I and my play circle consider myself a bant specialist.

If elf combo comes back as it threatens to, it will be difficult as it is your worst matchup. I'm thinking of using 4 chalices in the sb JUST because of it. Set to one....on turn 2....u might have a chance. 
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Since this thread isn't about the discussion of a deck in the OP, I'm having this moved to Extended General.
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