This thread is for discussion of this week's Building on a Budget, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
Hmm. It appears that Jacob's second math loss was due to the shuffler screwing him. But he's got a point about that Ancient Grudge.
I wonder how many decks use it?
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Grudge - is one of the card choices which are really great especially for it's flashback cost.
So everyone who is playing Legacy/Extended want's some copies of it in the sideboard if they are not using another artifact removal like Shattering Spree or Smash to Smithereens for e.g.
What could be said about the deck - it's really nice and cheap - there is a problem in searching some cards but anyway (cheap deck from JVL - is what i really been waiting)
The thing that i can not really understand - is why he is using everything 4 copies of each card: Balance, March and Cascade spells - at almost it seems useless - because all of this is ~ 1 combo.
I'd think about some addition for this deck and make new post later.
Hmmm, Mr. Van Lunen says he likes Ensnaring Bridge in the main, but then he sides it out after each of the Game 1's in today's column. Also - why have 4 copies of Restore Balance? They get tutored for and from what I've seen one is usually enough to win. Also, this deck is pretty miserable in a format where everybody packs artifact hate because of affinity decks.
Yep - it seems to me that the days of the Bridge came out - now u can have a creature 5/4 for 3 mana
and what to do with the bridge in play without cards in hand when you've already played your March?
The other Question what can the deck show against U Classic Control deck? When all your Balances will be countered by Negate for e.g. I think that the Combo of this deck is not enough to show me love
Maybe this deck should be featured by some kinda good Counterspells for 3 mana.
It'll be great to see Legacy version of this deck - nobody plays Extended in the city club =(
Four Restore Balance might seem to many, but if your facing a large deck of 200 plus cards (happens often in casual) it's required to fight all there manna ramp.
If you want to make a non-budget variant with even more lock down add Master of Etherium, and Mycosynth Lattice. This locks the game down, so opponent can't lay a land unless he has a some sort of creature pump on the field like Glorious Anthem, or Vetran Armorer.
X4 Darksteel Pendant
X3 Fieldmist Borderpost
X3 Firewild Borderpost
X3 Mistvien Borderpost
X3 Veinfire Borderpost
X3 Wildfire Borderpost
X4 Ardent Plea
X4 Demonic Dread
X4 Violent Out Burst
X4 March of the Machines
X4 Restore Balance
X2 Master of Etherium
X2 Mycosynth Lattice
I enjoyed the article. Even if there's discussion about some of his number choices and stuff, I really appreciated how he showed us some of the development that went into it, and things that failed (like Rift Bolt moving to SB).
I'm really surprized how many people are playing various artifact destruction - are there any artifacts in the format that are really worth destroying? It seems like a precious waste of deck space.
I'm sorry but yes, there are a good number of artifacts in the extended format that need destroying. It doesn't mean that decks dedicate maindeck space for them (altough this might become a good move post-rotation), but dedicating sideboard space for them is pretty much a necessity. Note that Jacob didn't face any maindeck hate, but that the absolute certainty of facing Ancient Grudges game 2 and 3 was enough of a problem to consider.
This october, the format will be Mirrodin block and up. This means that the beast that block spawned, the affinity deck, is gonna be a force to reckon with since it doesn't lose a thing while other decks lose some of their power and hate cards agaisnt it. And in the subsequent block, Kamigawa, you find the most powerful (unbanned) equipment of all time, Umezawa's Jitte, which will surely also define the format in great part.
Adapting to a format is not wasting deck space in tournaments. Then again, if you don't play extended tournaments, why would you care ?
Cascading into Restore Balance with a Greater Gargadon on suspend just seems completely sick to me, has he been considered for this deck?
Hey Jacob Van Lunen I really want to see a budget Legacy and a budget Vintage version of this deck. I for one would really enjoy trying them out, please post them in future articles, thank you.
Everyone is playing this deck now. But no one puts that bridges in.
I tried Greater Gargadon and it has the effect of getting people to concede when you cast Restore Balance and destroy all their lands while having the Gargadon on suspend.
Affinity is a problem to this deck.
Also when you post your Legacy and Vintage decks, it would be greatly appreciated if you could add in the sideboard, as I intend to build at least the Legacy deck. I have been needing a new budget Legacy deck and I am greatly looking forward to this, thank you.