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I came across this post and had a few questions:


community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...


Shadow walk states that if you move at least 3 squares away from
where you started your turn, you gain concealment. Are we to interpret that it is the distance from the starting point to the destination that the 3 squares are measured, not taking into account the path taken? So if the warlock had to walk around a wall or other object (making the distance traveled more than 3) or could have taken a longer path than 3 to get to the final space, if the distance is less than 3 by direct measurement (even if it passes through an object), the warlock does not gain concealment?

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Response (Support Agent) 07/20/2008 02:37 PM
Greetings Steve,

You must be 3 squares AWAY from the square in which you started your turn. If you end your turn only two squares away from where you started you will not gain concealment with Shadow Walk.


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Question 1.: Can a warlock move 6 squares in a circle and return to the same square to gain the shadow walk benefit provided one of the squares during the movement was 3 or more from the starting square?



Question 2.: A warlock attacks a target, kills it and triggers the fey pack ability; teleporting 3 squares directly away and gaining concealment due to shadow walk. It then moves back to the starting square. Does it lose concealment?

Question 3.: A warlock charges 3 squares to an enemey. He has moved 3 or more and gains concealment due to the shadow walk ability. He takes his attack and then uses an action point to move back one square being only 2 squares from where he started the turn. Does he still have concealment from the shadow walk ability?


Question 3.: A warlock charges 3 squares to an enemey. He has moved 3 or more and gains concealment due to the shadow walk ability. He takes his attack and then uses an action point to move back one square being only 2 squares from where he started the turn. However this allows the enemy to make an opportunity attack, does the warlock have concealment?



Question 5.:A warlock charges 3 squares to an enemey. He has moved 3 or more and gains concealment due to the shadow walk ability. The enemy has a reaction attack that pushes back the warlock one square. Does the warlock still have concealemnt during the reactionary attack? Does the warlock lose concealment after the reactionary attack as it is now only 2 square from it original starting point?
 


 thanx in advance

1) I think the idea is that the warlock "slips off into the shadows" and thus he should end up 3 squares from where he started.


2) Probably by RAW no, but I think that CS disagrees with that.


3) I'd say going by the CS response you quoted, no.


5) Its a good question. I wouldn't penalize the character for being force moved myself, but there is no "correct" answer.


 

That is not dead which may eternal lie

Well, I got my own version of CS approval...or conflicting statement...


In order for the Shadow walk to trigger the warlock needs to move at least 3 squares away from the starting square. He does not need to finish his move 3 or more squares away from the starting square, so in all of your examples it would work.

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There's no "end of turn" requirement.  If at some point during your turn you are 3 or more squares (as you'd measure range) away from the square in which you started your turn, you gain (often retain) concealment until the end of your next turn.

I interpret Shadow Walk as follows:


If, at any point during your turn, you are 3 or more squares away from where you started your turn, then you gain concealment until the end of your next turn.


That seems to be the simplest way of handling it.

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Question 1.: Can a warlock move 6 squares in a circle and return to the same square to gain the shadow walk benefit provided one of the squares during the movement was 3 or more from the starting square?


Yes
Question 2.: A warlock attacks a target, kills it and triggers the fey pack ability; teleporting 3 squares directly away and gaining concealment due to shadow walk. It then moves back to the starting square. Does it lose concealment?


No
Question 3.: A warlock charges 3 squares to an enemey. He has moved 3 or more and gains concealment due to the shadow walk ability. He takes his attack and then uses an action point to move back one square being only 2 squares from where he started the turn. Does he still have concealment from the shadow walk ability?


yes
Question 3.: A warlock charges 3 squares to an enemey. He has moved 3 or more and gains concealment due to the shadow walk ability. He takes his attack and then uses an action point to move back one square being only 2 squares from where he started the turn. However this allows the enemy to make an opportunity attack, does the warlock have concealment?


yes
Question 5.:A warlock charges 3 squares to an enemey. He has moved 3 or more and gains concealment due to the shadow walk ability. The enemy has a reaction attack that pushes back the warlock one square. Does the warlock still have concealemnt during the reactionary attack? Does the warlock lose concealment after the reactionary attack as it is now only 2 square from it original starting point?


This one depends on the type of ability. Is it a reaction or an interrupt?
If the ability is a reaction, the warlock has met the requirement for Shadow walk, as he had to enter the square before the attack occurred, but if it is an interrupt, then it could have actually prevented the warlock from entering the square and stopped the activation of shadow walk.

I agree.  The ability say you need to move 3 squares away from where you started, not end your turn there.


A picky DM could argue here that your "move" isn't complete until the end of the action you took to move, so you would need to finish that action 3+ squares away from your starting point.  That seems overly fussy to me, but I suppose a case could be made.  But there's really no logic to say that you would lose concealment if you took another move action to come back.


And even that is being generous.  I would expect most people to play it that you gain concealment if you are 3 squares away from your starting position at any point.

On the flip side: I play a Warlock, and the need to actually move three squares away from my starting position - and not come back - is part of what makes things tactically interesting to me.  I've skinned my Shadow Walk as a glow (via a magic item the PC herself sheds bright light out to 20 squares!), and basically if I stay too near my starting position they can squint past it and make her out clearly, so this interpretation doesn't bug me, and it's a limit on the character which I embrace because it ups the challenge factor of the game without actually making me less powerful.