## How does Move Object work?

Make a Use the Force check. The result of the check determines the
maximum size of the target you can lift (see below). If the target is a creature that resists your attempt, your Use the Force check must also exceed the target's Will Defense. You can hurl the target at (or drop it on) another target in range if your Use the Force check exceeds the second target's Reflex Defense.
Both targets take damage determined by your Use the Force check result.
DC 15: Move object up to Medium size (deals 2d6 points of damage)
DC 20: Move object up to Large size (deals 4d6 points of damage)
DC 25: Move object up to Huge size (deals 6d6 points of damage)
DC 30: Move object up to Gargantuan size (deals 8d6 points of damage)
DC 35: Move object up to Colossal size (deals 10d6 points of damage)

Ok, so first I make a Use the Force check to see the size of the object I want to pick up. Lets say I roll a 30 on my check, which allows me to pick up a Gargantuan sized object (or smaller). The only thing near me I can pick up however, is Huge sized, so I select that. When I attempt to throw the object at an enemy, what damage is done? Is the damage based off of the size of the object you pick up, or the Use the Force check result?

Logically I would think that you only deal damage based on the size of the object, yet the underlined section above specifically says that the damage is based off the Use the Force check result.

If I pick up a medium sized creature, but my Use the Force result was a 30, and I slam them into another medium sized creature, what is the damage that is done?
c_munkie
Joined Jan 2009
165 Posts
Um... The use forrce check is done after the object is selected. The DC for lifting a huge object is 25. SO they have to get a minimum of 25 on the roll. If they do not they fail. Sorta like in empire strikes back, where luke tried to lift his x-wing. he failed his roll.

The damage done is based on the size of the object you throw at them. If you are trying to throw a huge object, and roll a 30, it still does the same 6d6 damage. The damage dealt is based on the object thrown, not how well you throw it.
quvmoh
Joined Mar 2004
464 Posts
Well . the literal interpretation would be that if your Use the force result was a 30, then you are able to move a gargantuan object. Even if you it is only a medium object you still inflict the gargantuan object damage because you have the connection to the force behind the event. So .. if you pick up a stormtrooper and slam him into another stormtrooper with move object and make a 30 on your use the force roll, then both stormtroopers take 8D6 points of damage.

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c_munkie
Joined Jan 2009
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Oh, I uess Iam wrong. Sorry.
elvenshae
Joined Feb 2006
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Um... The use forrce check is done after the object is selected. The DC for lifting a huge object is 25. SO they have to get a minimum of 25 on the roll. If they do not they fail. Sorta like in empire strikes back, where luke tried to lift his x-wing. he failed his roll.

This is true.

The damage done is based on the size of the object you throw at them.

This is not.

The way it works is, you decide to pick up and throw something at someone. You've got a Small container, a Large container, and a Gargantuan container nearby.

The one you pick sets the minimum DC you need to hit in order to move the object.

The total roll - assuming it beats the minimum DC - sets the damage.

Some people house rule this to be "object size = damage," because they'd rather the Jedi pick up the Gargantuan container than the Small one.
thenarrator
Joined Jan 2006
347 Posts
If you roll high on a smaller object that means you throw it harder. The roll sets the damage.
apolos
Joined Aug 2007
26 Posts
That's how I interpret Move Object as well. The roll sets the maximum size of what you can pick up, and how hard/fast you throw it.
Rather odd, though, that you could throw a gargantuan object just as fast as a medium one, but that's one of the mysteries of the Force.
superstition
Joined Sep 2008
216 Posts
It should be a utility power in my view, instead of a direct damage power. But, now that Levitate is out, it seems Wizards doesn't want it to be used as a utility power so they've come up with the very odd Levitate power which says the Force can allow someone to move vertically but not horizontally. Lol.

Move Object should allow someone to pick something up and move it. Whether or not damage is involved should be up to the force user's use of the power and the roll.
ericdahred
Joined Feb 2009
147 Posts
Rather odd, though, that you could throw a gargantuan object just as fast as a medium one, but that's one of the mysteries of the Force.

Actually, you wouldn't move a gargantuan object as fast as a medium one. The reason that the Gargantuan and medium object would do about the same ammount of damage is that both would have roughly the same momentum (the force behind their movement). Momentum is a combination of speed and mass, so a fast-moving medium object can have the same momentum as a slow-moving gargantuan object.

I agree that the roll determines the damage, however, I can see why GMs wouldn't want this. Why not split the difference? You could use a house rule that says you do an additional 1d6 for every 5 points by which you exceed the DC of the chosen object.

Thus, a medium object tossed with gargantuan power would do 5d6 instead of 2d6.
A large object tossed with gargantuan power would do 6d6 instead of 4d6.
A huge object tossed with gargantuan power would do 7d6 instead of 6d6.

Of course, a gargantuan object would have done 8d6.

This way, it is better to grab the largest object you can manage to lift but you still get a damage bonus if you grab something smaller.

[EDIT]This faces players with an interesting decision, pick a smaller object that they are sure to roll high enough to lift and deal less damage, or go for the maximum damage but risk rolling too low to lift the larger object.