Help build up my decks

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Hello everyone, I'm really new to MtG (probably have played 30 matches so far) and am looking for some help building up my current decks. They're pretty low level right now and not really for tournament play, right now they're being used for casual games against friends. I'm looking for suggestions to make my decks more potent and possibly more legal for standard play in the future. I'm really looking for tips on both green decks and my red/black deck, but feel free to focus on any of them. Right, here's the link to the current decks I'm running
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As a general rule, keep the changes to each deck under $50, but if your changes go over a bit that's fine.
Thanks for your help!
Hmm.. I tend to gravitate towards white, so thats the deck I looked at.

Kind of an interesting deck...its a tribal griffin deck.. yet it really has no benefits for being tribal :D.. so here are some suggestions.

First of all, I am a big fan of White/Blue these days, and since your deck is very flying focused, I think that you could seriously improve it through going W/U instead of mono white.

You mentioned wanting to go standard legal as well... but to do that.. the deck is basically going to have to be rebuilt from the ground up.  Very little in the deck is currently standard legal.  So what im going to do is suggest a standard deck that is similar in THEME to your griffin deck... but will not actually be a griffin deck since there just arent enough griffins in standard to make that work.

Creatures

4x Judge's Familiar
4x Lyev Skyknight
4x Arctic Aven
4x Niblis of the Urn
4x Skymark Roc
4x Archon of the Triumvirate

Spells

3x Favorable Winds
4x Oblivion Ring
2x Unsummon
3x Negate
1x Martial Law
1x Curse of Exhaustion
1x Sphere of Safety

Lands

4x Azorius Guildgate
9x Island
9x Plains


So...yeah... I basically just gave you a completely different deck instead of suggesting things for your own deck :D.   Incidentally.. this is a casual deck.  The mana curve on it is kinda screwed up, and it doesnt have some of those key "competitive" components like card draw, or some of the more expensive options like Detention Sphere and Hallowed Fountain.  However I do think you could build it for fairly cheap because of that.


As for your original deck... as I said you cant really convert that to standard.  However, if you dont WANT to convert it to standard.. you may consider still converting it to Blue/White.. and still taking Favorable Winds and Oblivion Ring(every white deck needs it or something like it..Path to Exile also works).. but then you could also grab Azorius First-Wing, Mtenda Griffin, Tethered Griffin, Zuberi, Golden Feather

Anyway.. good luck with your decks.


Hey thanks for the reply :P I think I am going to convert the griffin deck to W/B, that might add the extra punch it needs. I'm digging Favorable WindsSphere of SafetyAzorius First-WingMtenda GriffinTethered Griffin, Martial LawJudge's FamiliarArchon of the Triumvirate and Zuberi, Golden FeatherNegateUnsummon and Oblivion Ring would definitely help out too. I might also add Curiosity and Sage Owl to the mix. Thanks man!

Updated Griffin Decklist:














Any improvements and or ideas?

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4 Khalni Garden
1 Thawing Glaciers

 

Artifacts
4 Didgeridoo
4 Gorgon Flail
1 Konda's Banner
1 Tenza, Godo's Maul

 

Spells
4 Assault Strobe

 

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4 Minotaur Aggressor
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4 Glistener Elf
4 Necropede
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3 Goblin Warchief
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9 Forest

Spells
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2 Rampaging Baloths
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3 Sage of Epityr
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3 Spiketail Hatchling
3 Cursecatcher


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4 Preordain
4 Dizzy Spell
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4 Treetop Village


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4 Rancor
2 Might of Oaks

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4 Spark Elemental
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4 Azorius Chancery
4 Seaside Haven
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5 Island

 

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4 Soulcatcher
4 Judge's Familar
3 Augury Owl
3 Cloudreach Cavalry
3 Pride of Clouds
2 Emeria Angel
2 Aven Mimeomancer
1 God of Awe

 

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4 Oblivion Ring
2 Battle Screech
2 Airborne Raid

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3 Rogue Elephant
4 Silhana Ledgewalker
4 Skarrgan Pit-Skulk
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3 Quirion Ranger
3 Shinen of Life's Roar

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3 Gather Courage
3 Briar Shield
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3 Fog

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4 Bottomless Pit
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3 Greypelt Refuge
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5 Plains

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2 Hurricane


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2 Titania's Song
2 Aura of Silence
2 Kismet
1 Fastbond

 

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4 Storm Cauldron
4 Ankh of Mishra
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1 Venser's Journal
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4 Darksteel Ingot

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1 Yavimaya Hollow
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2 Mold Shambler
2 Terra Stomper
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1 Gruul Ragebeast
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1 Ursapine
1 Molder Slug
1 Protean Hulk

 

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2 Wirewood Lodge
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1 Pendelhaven

 

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2 Fyndhorn Elves
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Wirewood Symbiote
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4 Elvish Archdruid
4 Sylvan Messenger
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2 Hurricane
2 Eldrazi Monument

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18 Swamp
4 Leechridden Swamp
2 Cabal Coffers

 

Creatures
4 Pulse Tracker
3 Blood Artist
4 Vampire Nighthawk
4 Malakir Bloodwitch
3 Falkenrath Noble
2 Bloodline Keeper

 

Enchantments
3 Underworld Connections
1 No Mercy
1 Phyrexian Reclamation

 

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4 Syphon Soul
4 Blood Tithe
3 Exsanguinate

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1 Tolarian Academy
2 Sulfur Falls
4 Great Furnace
4 Seat of the Synod
1 Mikokoro, Center of the Sea
2 Deserted Temple
2 Reliquary Tower
3 Island
2 Mountain

 

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4 Swans of Bryn Argoll
2 Jace's Archivist
2 Kami of the Crescent Moon
4 Psychosis Crawler

 

Artifacts
4 Howling Mine
4 Iron Maiden
4 Ebony Owl Netsuke
1 Ivory Tower

 

Spells
4 Winds of Change
4 Molten Psyche
2 Copy Artifact
2 Sunder
2 Cyclonic Rift

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Lands
4 Ancient Ziggurat
4 Rootbound Crag
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Sunpetal Grove
4 Breeding Pool

 

Creatures
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4 Sinew Sliver
4 Gemhide Sliver
3 Winged Sliver
4 Crystalline Sliver
4 Homing Sliver
2 Heart Sliver
2 Acidic Sliver
1 Sliver Overlord
1 Essence Sliver
1 Necrotic Sliver
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Brood Sliver
1 Shifting Sliver
1 Fury Sliver

 

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1 Creeping Renaissance

 

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2 Emeria, Sky Ruin

 

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4 Daru Warchief
3 Field Marshal
3 Knight-Captain of Eos
3 Captain of the Watch
3 Catapult Master
2 Loxodon Gatekeeper
2 Angel of Glory's Rise
2 Stormfront Riders
1 Darien, King of Kjeldor
1 Odric, Master Tactician

 

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4 Skullclamp
2 Eldrazi Monument
1 Mobilization

 

Planeswalker
1 Elspeth, Knight-Errant

Life Test

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16 Plains
4 Kabira Crossroads
2 Emeria, the Sky Ruin
1 Miren, the Moaing Well

 

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2 Divinity of Pride
4 Serra Ascendant
4 Martyr of Sands
4 Kami of False Hope

 

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2 Test of Endurance
1 Idyllic Tutor
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Beacon of Immortality
2 Fracturing Gust
3 Congregate
2 Well of Lost Dreams
2 Proclamation of Rebirth
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1 Elixir of Immortality
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Hey thanks for the reply :P I think I am going to convert the griffin deck to W/B, that might add the extra punch it needs. I'm digging Favorable Winds, Sphere of Safety, Azorius First-Wing, Mtenda Griffin, Tethered Griffin, Martial Law, Judge's Familiar, Archon of the Triumvirate and Zuberi, Golden Feather. Negate, Unsummon and Oblivion Ring would definitely help out too. I might also add Curiosity and Sage Owl to the mix. Thanks man!

Updated Griffin Decklist:

Creatures
x4 Griffin Rider
x2 Tethered Griffin
x1 Suntail Hawk
x2 Judge's Familiar
x1 Archon of the Triumvirate
x2 Mtenda Griffin
x2 Griffin Sentinel
x2 Sunspire Griffin
x2 Sage Owl

Spells
x2 Curiosity
x2 Unsummon
x2 Lifelink
x4 Favorable Winds
x2 Pacifism
x3 Oblivion Ring
x2 Martial Law
x1 Sphere of Safety

Lands
x10 Island
x10 Plains
x4 Azorius Guildgate

Any improvements and or ideas?



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This deck is looking better, but its still missing some things I think.  You cant account for every situation in a deck list....that is what sideboards are for.. but I think your deck still has some key weaknesses that can be addressed in your mainboard choices.

For example, Sunspire Griffin isnt really worth it.   3cmc for a 2/3 flyer isnt horrible.. but it isnt great either, and it requires two plains, which is something you want to try and avoid in a dual color deck whenever possible.   You could take two more Griffin Sentinel for example, which has one less power, but does come with vigilance, and only requires 1 plains.  Same with Suntail Hawk .. I understand we are maintaining a bird theme, but a 1/1 flyer for 1cmc is mediocre.  For the same price you could have Jace's Phantasm, which is essentially the same thing, but with the added benefit of being a great late game drop.

You may want to figure out exactly how many griffins you need to make Griffin Rider worth it.  Right now you have 8.   You could..for example.. do this:

4x Griffin Rider
4x Armored Griffin
4x Tethered Griffin
3x Soulcatcher
3x Cloudreach Cavalry
4x Judge's Familiar
2x War Falcon

Then with the spells and enchantments..  I dunno.  I am not a big fan of Lifelink.  I feel like there have to be better 1cmc enchantments out there.   Ethereal Armor for example, would synergize with this deck.  And curiosity is a nice card in the right circumstances.. but you dont have any unblockable creatures, or "tap to deal 1 damage" creatures..so making it work for you consistantly is going to be difficult.

Finally.. you have no defense against burn.  Thats why I like Negate and Curse of Exhaustion.  You may need to include something to keep yourself from getting fried by burn decks.

Anyway..im far from an expert so im not even sure if im giving you good advice :D.  Either way it looks like your deck is improving to me.. so thats good.