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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 10:46AM #31
Uknits
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Surging euphoria would be game changing, if Kyra had it.  As a level 4 wilder ability, Kyra doesn't get it.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 10:56AM #32
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Good point.  Ok, switched back.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 12:03PM #33
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May 15, 2012 -- 10:37AM, Yitzi wrote:

May 15, 2012 -- 9:40AM, Eluria wrote:

Hi Yitzi-
thanks for the run! that was awesome; very close!

quick qs re: very minor points normally, which all add up quite a bit potentially
1. CoPS is a free action, so should have renewed in Rd 11; this would mean more Str damage in rds 11-21 as well, particularly rounds 11 and 12, which would be fight altering




Even if it's a free action, that doesn't mean you can do it in grapple.





sure it does - it's free!  it's like talking; why couldn't you do a free action in a grapple?
(sorry about surging euphoria, my bad! -- and super close fight, very exciting; thank you both for a great run!)


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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 1:53PM #34
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Wow, Arlo vs Jaob was close! Especially given that nasty poison arrow - despite cover and concealment (I think I should have been able to see Arlo casting RE a previous discussion on casting whilst hidden, but True Strike is V only IIRC and anyway it doesn't really matter).

Grannick vs Kaleisa meanwhile was... painful. Expansion kind of threw a spanner in the works as far as disarming went, but to be honest there wasn't much I could have done if that dorje was allowed to stay. Grannick, I'll get you yet!

Thanks for the runs Uknits!
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 1:56PM #35
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You could only see the casting if he was casting at you.  Since he was not, and especially without any somantic components, there was nothing to see.  I did expect you to hear it, but a natural 1....

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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 2:06PM #36
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May 15, 2012 -- 12:03PM, Eluria wrote:

sure it does - it's free!  it's like talking; why couldn't you do a free action in a grapple?




I seem to remember a previous discussion that implied the only significant actions you can take in a grapple are those listed (or equivalent, such as manifesting instead of casting).

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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 2:18PM #37
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To argue that you can manifest, or cast a somatic spell in a grapple, but not perform free actions, seems strange to me, but you are correct that "free action" is not listed as something you can do within a grapple.  Of course, "breathe" isn't listed, either, nor is talk, nor is "drop something", or other examples of free action, and you can do that...  But you are the pitlord and I am not going to gripe, I'm just surprised not to be able to renew a free action while in Grapple. 
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 2:22PM #38
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If you can prove that it's possible to drop something in a grapple, then that will mean that my understanding was wrong and the fight should be corrected, and I will do so.
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 2:36PM #39
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I can prove you can talk in a grapple
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1 year ago  ::  May 15, 2012 - 2:47PM #40
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Talking isn't a mechanically significant action like renewing an ability or dropping something.
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